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  • brooks85
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-05-09
    • 44709

    #561
    fight went to decision as planned
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    • Thor4140
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-09-08
      • 22296

      #562
      Round 5 Frankie is lighting Ben up for three minutes then Ben lands a few in the last 30 seconds and somehow he wins the round in some people eyes. If you are gonna forget the first four minutes of a rounds than maybe judging isn't your thing.
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      • rocky16
        SBR MVP
        • 07-22-12
        • 1905

        #563
        Edgar clearly won the fight. Anyone who says other wise is lying or just plain stupid.
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        • Thor4140
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-09-08
          • 22296

          #564
          Originally posted by Crassus
          Sorry mate, not my .gif
          i think ten seconds earlier i saw what V. was talking about. Dana looked real happy an told Bendo he won.
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          • Beelzebubzy
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 06-06-11
            • 6995

            #565
            Originally posted by Vaughany
            Yeah, lost about £450 tonight. Good job #ALLISEEISSQUID came through yesterday! Need my Olympics plays to hit tomorrow big time.
            I thought Frankie won it as well
            Went for a long run this morning.
            Rewatched teh fight and still scored it for Edgar

            However, my play was wrong. I was chasing at -250, there is little if any value. the mistake I made was the same one that cost me with the Fig/Leroy fight and that I thought judges were competent

            still hurts but whatevs
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            • gabe
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 09-12-11
              • 7405

              #566
              Originally posted by Thor4140
              Round 5 Frankie is lighting Ben up for three minutes then Ben lands a few in the last 30 seconds and somehow he wins the round in some people eyes. If you are gonna forget the first four minutes of a rounds than maybe judging isn't your thing.
              Shut up, dude. Frankie was lighting him up for three minutes? hahahahaha gtfo... it was a very even 5th round, I personally think Bendo took it by a hair, but won't be shocked if anyone else scored the 5th for Edgar... point being, nobody was getting lit up in that round, quit saying stupid shit.
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              • gabe
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-12-11
                • 7405

                #567
                Originally posted by rocky16
                Edgar clearly won the fight. Anyone who says other wise is lying or just plain stupid.
                Neither fighter CLEARLY won, so you CLEARLY are saying something very styuuuupid.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #568
                  yeah tht wasnt a clear win for anybody. Only clear things about tht fight were that Henderson won rnd1 and Frankie won rnd2...fucckk knows about the rest
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                  • gabe
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-12-11
                    • 7405

                    #569
                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                    yeah tht wasnt a clear win for anybody. Only clear things about tht fight were that Henderson won rnd1 and Frankie won rnd2...fucckk knows about the rest
                    exactly.
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                    • gabe
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-12-11
                      • 7405

                      #570
                      For the record, calling someone stupid is almost as common as breathing for me, so nobody should be offended when I do.
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                      • rocky16
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-22-12
                        • 1905

                        #571
                        Originally posted by gabe
                        Neither fighter CLEARLY won, so you CLEARLY are saying something very styuuuupid.
                        Edgar clearly won the fight dude. He outstruck Henderson, landed more takedowns and had the only knockdown of the fight. He won rounds 2 and 5 without a doubt. Henderson won the 1st, but I don't see how anyone could have scored both the 3rd and 4th for Henderson. Edgar won the fight, the judges got it wrong. If you don't understand that, then I don't know what to tell you.
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                        • rocky16
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-22-12
                          • 1905

                          #572
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          yeah tht wasnt a clear win for anybody. Only clear things about tht fight were that Henderson won rnd1 and Frankie won rnd2...fucckk knows about the rest
                          Edgar won the 5th. He outstruck Henderson through out the round.
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                          • DublinMeUp
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 05-15-12
                            • 376

                            #573
                            Originally posted by Vitooch
                            Shot in the dark but Nunya?

                            Instances of Nunya using the word baby are far to low for him to be Scotty.. baby
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                            • bogbat
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-21-10
                              • 1843

                              #574
                              Originally posted by gabe
                              Round 1 to bendo
                              round 2 to edgar
                              round 3 draw
                              round 4 draw
                              round 5 bendo by a hair
                              You're seriously scored a two 10-10 rounds? You're a joke mate.
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                              • terpkeg
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-26-09
                                • 2364

                                #575
                                I thought at the time that Round 4 was all Edgar. Henderson was really showing his frustration at the end of it.
                                Dave Hagen
                                ROUND Henderson Edgar
                                1 10 9
                                2 9 10
                                3 10 9
                                4 10 9
                                5 9 10
                                TOTAL 48 47
                                Mark Van Tine
                                ROUND Henderson Edgar
                                1 10 9
                                2 9 10
                                3 10 9
                                4 10 9
                                5 9 10
                                TOTAL 48 47
                                Tony Weeks
                                ROUND Henderson Edgar
                                1 10 9
                                2 9 10
                                3 9 10
                                4 9 10
                                5 9 10
                                TOTAL 46 49
                                Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 07-03-14, 02:01 PM.
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                                • Crassus
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-08-12
                                  • 1538

                                  #576
                                  Originally posted by bogbat
                                  You're seriously scored a two 10-10 rounds? You're a joke mate.
                                  It must be so tough to be the first person ever to lose a bet on a close fight. Oh wait.

                                  Get over it pussy.
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                                  • rocky16
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-22-12
                                    • 1905

                                    #577
                                    Originally posted by bogbat
                                    You're seriously scored a two 10-10 rounds? You're a joke mate.
                                    He also scored the 5th for Henderson, so you know what you're dealing with here.
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                                    • rocky16
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-22-12
                                      • 1905

                                      #578
                                      Originally posted by terpkeg
                                      I thought at the time that Round 4 was all Edgar. Henderson was really showing his frustration at the end of it.
                                      Dave Hagen
                                      ROUND Henderson Edgar
                                      1 10 9
                                      2 9 10
                                      3 10 9
                                      4 10 9
                                      5 9 10
                                      TOTAL 48 47
                                      Mark Van Tine
                                      ROUND Henderson Edgar
                                      1 10 9
                                      2 9 10
                                      3 10 9
                                      4 10 9
                                      5 9 10
                                      TOTAL 48 47
                                      Tony Weeks
                                      ROUND Henderson Edgar
                                      1 10 9
                                      2 9 10
                                      3 9 10
                                      4 9 10
                                      5 9 10
                                      TOTAL 46 49
                                      I don't know how two judges thought Henderson took the 3rd and 4th. Its unbelievable. The 1st, 2nd, and 5th are accurate. I thought those rounds were pretty clear.
                                      Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 07-03-14, 02:01 PM.
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                                      • bogbat
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-21-10
                                        • 1843

                                        #579
                                        Originally posted by rocky16
                                        He also scored the 5th for Henderson, so you know what you're dealing with here.
                                        yeah lol, it was clear Edgar took that round. The fact he was able to pick a winner in the fifth, albeit the wrong guy, but not anyone in the third and fourth is ridiculous
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                                        • scofflaw
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 06-12-11
                                          • 182

                                          #580
                                          I haven't rewatched the fight and I probably won't. I think I had scored it Bendo, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Bendo. I had money on Henderson and I thought he lost. It was very close, not a robbery. Henderson does more damage with his strikes and judges value that.

                                          I want to see Edgar vs Mendes and Edgar vs Aldo @ 145
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                                          • GunShard
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-05-10
                                            • 10027

                                            #581
                                            Fight Metric had the fight in a draw, 48-48. Statistically Edgar landed more strikes.
                                            Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 07-03-14, 02:01 PM.
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                                            • Thor4140
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 02-09-08
                                              • 22296

                                              #582
                                              Originally posted by gabe
                                              Shut up, dude. Frankie was lighting him up for three minutes? hahahahaha gtfo... it was a very even 5th round, I personally think Bendo took it by a hair, but won't be shocked if anyone else scored the 5th for Edgar... point being, nobody was getting lit up in that round, quit saying stupid shit.
                                              u just keep judging the last 30 seconds like all dudes who have short attention spans. Those three shitty judges also gave rd 5 to Frankie Frankie was landing everything the early part of round 5 and then in the last minute Bendo lands a toenail which Rogan made sound devastating and of course you bought it like all idiots do who can't think on their own two feet.
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                                              • Thor4140
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-09-08
                                                • 22296

                                                #583
                                                Originally posted by scofflaw
                                                I haven't rewatched the fight and I probably won't. I think I had scored it Bendo, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Bendo. I had money on Henderson and I thought he lost. It was very close, not a robbery. Henderson does more damage with his strikes and judges value that.

                                                I want to see Edgar vs Mendes and Edgar vs Aldo @ 145
                                                Nice to see guys who actually had Beno realize he lost. I had no money at all on the fight and i feel Frankie won.
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                                                • rocky16
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-22-12
                                                  • 1905

                                                  #584
                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                  Nice to see guys who actually had Beno realize he lost. I had no money at all on the fight and i feel Frankie won.
                                                  I had money on Edgar, but if he lost I would've said he lost and moved on. A lot of others just can't do the same. They'll just deny, deny, deny. Its actually quite pathetic.
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                                                  • rocky16
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-22-12
                                                    • 1905

                                                    #585
                                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                    u just keep judging the last 30 seconds like all dudes who have short attention spans. Those three shitty judges also gave rd 5 to Frankie Frankie was landing everything the early part of round 5 and then in the last minute Bendo lands a toenail which Rogan made sound devastating and of course you bought it like all idiots do who can't think on their own two feet.
                                                    Edgar won the 5th. He outstruck Benson in the round. He was slipping and firing nice shots. But some guys on here don't know what they're watching. They pretend they know, but they don't and when they try discussing thats when they are exposed as frauds.
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                                                    • rocky16
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-22-12
                                                      • 1905

                                                      #586
                                                      Originally posted by bogbat
                                                      yeah lol, it was clear Edgar took that round. The fact he was able to pick a winner in the fifth, albeit the wrong guy, but not anyone in the third and fourth is ridiculous
                                                      Edgar won the 4th too. Edgar took Benson down and even attempted a guillotine. Then at the end of the round, Benson stood there and taunted Edgar wile eating shots to the mouth. The judges obviously ****** that round up too.
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                                                      • rocky16
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-22-12
                                                        • 1905

                                                        #587
                                                        Originally posted by rocky16
                                                        Edgar won the 4th too. Edgar took Benson down and even attempted a guillotine. Then at the end of the round, Benson stood there and taunted Edgar wile eating shots to the mouth. The judges obviously ****** that round up too.
                                                        *while*
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                                                        • bogbat
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-21-10
                                                          • 1843

                                                          #588
                                                          Originally posted by rocky16
                                                          Edgar won the 5th. He outstruck Benson in the round. He was slipping and firing nice shots. But some guys on here don't know what they're watching. They pretend they know, but they don't and when they try discussing thats when they are exposed as frauds.
                                                          I agree with you man.
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                                                          • bogbat
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-21-10
                                                            • 1843

                                                            #589
                                                            Originally posted by scofflaw
                                                            I haven't rewatched the fight and I probably won't. I think I had scored it Bendo, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Bendo. I had money on Henderson and I thought he lost. It was very close, not a robbery. Henderson does more damage with his strikes and judges value that.

                                                            I want to see Edgar vs Mendes and Edgar vs Aldo @ 145
                                                            Are you referring to the visible damage shown on Frankies face this probably shouldnt be taken into account because some fighters bruise and cut up really easily, others like BJ and Sam Stout have leather skin and pretty show no signs of facial damage even when beat up for 3+ rounds. Ben Henderson seems to have leather skin too, I could be wrong but I dont recall him ever getting bruised and cut up.
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                                                            • rocky16
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-22-12
                                                              • 1905

                                                              #590
                                                              Originally posted by bogbat
                                                              Are you referring to the visible damage shown on Frankies face this probably shouldnt be taken into account because some fighters bruise and cut up really easily, others like BJ and Sam Stout have leather skin and pretty show no signs of facial damage even when beat up for 3+ rounds. Ben Henderson seems to have leather skin too, I could be wrong but I dont recall him ever getting bruised and cut up.
                                                              Agreed.
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                                                              • dww123
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 07-06-11
                                                                • 441

                                                                #591
                                                                Originally posted by bogbat
                                                                Are you referring to the visible damage shown on Frankies face this probably shouldnt be taken into account because some fighters bruise and cut up really easily, others like BJ and Sam Stout have leather skin and pretty show no signs of facial damage even when beat up for 3+ rounds. Ben Henderson seems to have leather skin too, I could be wrong but I dont recall him ever getting bruised and cut up.
                                                                Ridiculous opinion.

                                                                If a fighter gets punched solid repeatedly in the face you will know it. If they don't show signs of bruising and bleeding then they were successfully avoiding the brunt of the impact with head movement. This 'leather skin' concept is rubbish.

                                                                Sam Stout after last fight








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                                                                BJ Penn after last fight








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                                                                • gabe
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-12-11
                                                                  • 7405

                                                                  #592
                                                                  Originally posted by dww123
                                                                  Ridiculous opinion.

                                                                  If a fighter gets punched solid repeatedly in the face you will know it. If they don't show signs of bruising and bleeding then they were successfully avoiding the brunt of the impact with head movement. This 'leather skin' concept is rubbish.

                                                                  Sam Stout after last fight








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                                                                  BJ Penn after last fight








                                                                  Penn.jpg
                                                                  what i was thinkin
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                                                                  • Vaughany
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                                    • 45563

                                                                    #593
                                                                    Originally posted by dww123
                                                                    Ridiculous opinion.

                                                                    If a fighter gets punched solid repeatedly in the face you will know it. If they don't show signs of bruising and bleeding then they were successfully avoiding the brunt of the impact with head movement. This 'leather skin' concept is rubbish.

                                                                    Sam Stout after last fight








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                                                                    BJ Penn after last fight








                                                                    Penn.jpg
                                                                    Black dudes dont get cut tho brah...old age concept here on SBR!
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                                                                    • bogbat
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-21-10
                                                                      • 1843

                                                                      #594
                                                                      Stout doesn't look very damaged in that pic. Also it was taken hours after their fight when more signs of wear may show. As for BJ, his fight vs Diaz is the only time looking like that, it would be impossible not to when the guy you are facing breaks the record for the amount of strikes within a fight. Show me a pic of BJ looking anywhere near like that after he was beat up by GSP in BJ-GSP II or BJ-Matt Hughes II.
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                                                                      • bogbat
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-21-10
                                                                        • 1843

                                                                        #595
                                                                        What you should also consider is the possibly of fighters accumulating a lot of the damage in a single round or two but winning the other three and looking worse for the wear. Also everyone has a slightly different bone structure with naturally sharper bone edges which makes them prone to more bruising and/or cutting. Moreover, there is a deviation of skin thickness from person to person.
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