UFC 150 in Denver

brooks85 · 08-12-12, 08:26 AM

fight went to decision as planned

Thor4140 · 08-12-12, 09:09 AM

Round 5 Frankie is lighting Ben up for three minutes then Ben lands a few in the last 30 seconds and somehow he wins the round in some people eyes. If you are gonna forget the first four minutes of a rounds than maybe judging isn't your thing.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 09:16 AM

Edgar clearly won the fight. Anyone who says other wise is lying or just plain stupid.

Thor4140 · 08-12-12, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Crassus

Sorry mate, not my .gif

i think ten seconds earlier i saw what V. was talking about. Dana looked real happy an told Bendo he won.

Beelzebubzy · 08-12-12, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Vaughany

Yeah, lost about £450 tonight. Good job #ALLISEEISSQUID came through yesterday! Need my Olympics plays to hit tomorrow big time.
I thought Frankie won it as well

Went for a long run this morning.
Rewatched teh fight and still scored it for Edgar

However, my play was wrong. I was chasing at -250, there is little if any value. the mistake I made was the same one that cost me with the Fig/Leroy fight and that I thought judges were competent

still hurts but whatevs

gabe · 08-12-12, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Round 5 Frankie is lighting Ben up for three minutes then Ben lands a few in the last 30 seconds and somehow he wins the round in some people eyes. If you are gonna forget the first four minutes of a rounds than maybe judging isn't your thing.

Shut up, dude. Frankie was lighting him up for three minutes? hahahahaha gtfo... it was a very even 5th round, I personally think Bendo took it by a hair, but won't be shocked if anyone else scored the 5th for Edgar... point being, nobody was getting lit up in that round, quit saying stupid shit.

gabe · 08-12-12, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by rocky16

Edgar clearly won the fight. Anyone who says other wise is lying or just plain stupid.

Neither fighter CLEARLY won, so you CLEARLY are saying something very styuuuupid.

Vaughany · 08-12-12, 12:11 PM

yeah tht wasnt a clear win for anybody. Only clear things about tht fight were that Henderson won rnd1 and Frankie won rnd2...fucckk knows about the rest

gabe · 08-12-12, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

yeah tht wasnt a clear win for anybody. Only clear things about tht fight were that Henderson won rnd1 and Frankie won rnd2...fucckk knows about the rest

exactly.

gabe · 08-12-12, 12:21 PM

For the record, calling someone stupid is almost as common as breathing for me, so nobody should be offended when I do.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Neither fighter CLEARLY won, so you CLEARLY are saying something very styuuuupid.

Edgar clearly won the fight dude. He outstruck Henderson, landed more takedowns and had the only knockdown of the fight. He won rounds 2 and 5 without a doubt. Henderson won the 1st, but I don't see how anyone could have scored both the 3rd and 4th for Henderson. Edgar won the fight, the judges got it wrong. If you don't understand that, then I don't know what to tell you.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

yeah tht wasnt a clear win for anybody. Only clear things about tht fight were that Henderson won rnd1 and Frankie won rnd2...fucckk knows about the rest

Edgar won the 5th. He outstruck Henderson through out the round.

DublinMeUp · 08-12-12, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

Shot in the dark but Nunya?

Instances of Nunya using the word baby are far to low for him to be Scotty.. baby

bogbat · 08-12-12, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Round 1 to bendo
round 2 to edgar
round 3 draw
round 4 draw
round 5 bendo by a hair

You're seriously scored a two 10-10 rounds? You're a joke mate.

terpkeg · 08-12-12, 04:05 PM

I thought at the time that Round 4 was all Edgar. Henderson was really showing his frustration at the end of it.

Dave Hagen
ROUND	Henderson	Edgar
1	10	9
2	9	10
3	10	9
4	10	9
5	9	10
TOTAL	48	47

Mark Van Tine
ROUND	Henderson	Edgar
1	10	9
2	9	10
3	10	9
4	10	9
5	9	10
TOTAL	48	47

Tony Weeks
ROUND	Henderson	Edgar
1	10	9
2	9	10
3	9	10
4	9	10
5	9	10
TOTAL	46	49

Crassus · 08-12-12, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by bogbat

You're seriously scored a two 10-10 rounds? You're a joke mate.

It must be so tough to be the first person ever to lose a bet on a close fight. Oh wait.

Get over it pussy.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by bogbat

You're seriously scored a two 10-10 rounds? You're a joke mate.

He also scored the 5th for Henderson, so you know what you're dealing with here.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by terpkeg

I thought at the time that Round 4 was all Edgar. Henderson was really showing his frustration at the end of it.

Dave Hagen
ROUND	Henderson	Edgar
1	10	9
2	9	10
3	10	9
4	10	9
5	9	10
TOTAL	48	47

Mark Van Tine
ROUND	Henderson	Edgar
1	10	9
2	9	10
3	10	9
4	10	9
5	9	10
TOTAL	48	47

Tony Weeks
ROUND	Henderson	Edgar
1	10	9
2	9	10
3	9	10
4	9	10
5	9	10
TOTAL	46	49

I don't know how two judges thought Henderson took the 3rd and 4th. Its unbelievable. The 1st, 2nd, and 5th are accurate. I thought those rounds were pretty clear.

bogbat · 08-12-12, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by rocky16

He also scored the 5th for Henderson, so you know what you're dealing with here.

yeah lol, it was clear Edgar took that round. The fact he was able to pick a winner in the fifth, albeit the wrong guy, but not anyone in the third and fourth is ridiculous

scofflaw · 08-12-12, 06:53 PM

I haven't rewatched the fight and I probably won't. I think I had scored it Bendo, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Bendo. I had money on Henderson and I thought he lost. It was very close, not a robbery. Henderson does more damage with his strikes and judges value that.

I want to see Edgar vs Mendes and Edgar vs Aldo @ 145

GunShard · 08-12-12, 06:55 PM

Fight Metric had the fight in a draw, 48-48. Statistically Edgar landed more strikes.

Thor4140 · 08-12-12, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Shut up, dude. Frankie was lighting him up for three minutes? hahahahaha gtfo... it was a very even 5th round, I personally think Bendo took it by a hair, but won't be shocked if anyone else scored the 5th for Edgar... point being, nobody was getting lit up in that round, quit saying stupid shit.

u just keep judging the last 30 seconds like all dudes who have short attention spans. Those three shitty judges also gave rd 5 to Frankie Frankie was landing everything the early part of round 5 and then in the last minute Bendo lands a toenail which Rogan made sound devastating and of course you bought it like all idiots do who can't think on their own two feet.

Thor4140 · 08-12-12, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by scofflaw

I haven't rewatched the fight and I probably won't. I think I had scored it Bendo, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Bendo. I had money on Henderson and I thought he lost. It was very close, not a robbery. Henderson does more damage with his strikes and judges value that.

I want to see Edgar vs Mendes and Edgar vs Aldo @ 145

Nice to see guys who actually had Beno realize he lost. I had no money at all on the fight and i feel Frankie won.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

Nice to see guys who actually had Beno realize he lost. I had no money at all on the fight and i feel Frankie won.

I had money on Edgar, but if he lost I would've said he lost and moved on. A lot of others just can't do the same. They'll just deny, deny, deny. Its actually quite pathetic.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

u just keep judging the last 30 seconds like all dudes who have short attention spans. Those three shitty judges also gave rd 5 to Frankie Frankie was landing everything the early part of round 5 and then in the last minute Bendo lands a toenail which Rogan made sound devastating and of course you bought it like all idiots do who can't think on their own two feet.

Edgar won the 5th. He outstruck Benson in the round. He was slipping and firing nice shots. But some guys on here don't know what they're watching. They pretend they know, but they don't and when they try discussing thats when they are exposed as frauds.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by bogbat

yeah lol, it was clear Edgar took that round. The fact he was able to pick a winner in the fifth, albeit the wrong guy, but not anyone in the third and fourth is ridiculous

Edgar won the 4th too. Edgar took Benson down and even attempted a guillotine. Then at the end of the round, Benson stood there and taunted Edgar wile eating shots to the mouth. The judges obviously ****** that round up too.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 09:12 PM

Originally posted by rocky16

Edgar won the 4th too. Edgar took Benson down and even attempted a guillotine. Then at the end of the round, Benson stood there and taunted Edgar wile eating shots to the mouth. The judges obviously ****** that round up too.

*while*

bogbat · 08-12-12, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by rocky16

Edgar won the 5th. He outstruck Benson in the round. He was slipping and firing nice shots. But some guys on here don't know what they're watching. They pretend they know, but they don't and when they try discussing thats when they are exposed as frauds.

I agree with you man.

bogbat · 08-12-12, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by scofflaw

I haven't rewatched the fight and I probably won't. I think I had scored it Bendo, Edgar, Edgar, Edgar, Bendo. I had money on Henderson and I thought he lost. It was very close, not a robbery. Henderson does more damage with his strikes and judges value that.

I want to see Edgar vs Mendes and Edgar vs Aldo @ 145

Are you referring to the visible damage shown on Frankies face this probably shouldnt be taken into account because some fighters bruise and cut up really easily, others like BJ and Sam Stout have leather skin and pretty show no signs of facial damage even when beat up for 3+ rounds. Ben Henderson seems to have leather skin too, I could be wrong but I dont recall him ever getting bruised and cut up.

rocky16 · 08-12-12, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by bogbat

Are you referring to the visible damage shown on Frankies face this probably shouldnt be taken into account because some fighters bruise and cut up really easily, others like BJ and Sam Stout have leather skin and pretty show no signs of facial damage even when beat up for 3+ rounds. Ben Henderson seems to have leather skin too, I could be wrong but I dont recall him ever getting bruised and cut up.

Agreed.

dww123 · 08-12-12, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by bogbat

Are you referring to the visible damage shown on Frankies face this probably shouldnt be taken into account because some fighters bruise and cut up really easily, others like BJ and Sam Stout have leather skin and pretty show no signs of facial damage even when beat up for 3+ rounds. Ben Henderson seems to have leather skin too, I could be wrong but I dont recall him ever getting bruised and cut up.

Ridiculous opinion.

If a fighter gets punched solid repeatedly in the face you will know it. If they don't show signs of bruising and bleeding then they were successfully avoiding the brunt of the impact with head movement. This 'leather skin' concept is rubbish.

Sam Stout after last fight

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BJ Penn after last fight

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gabe · 08-13-12, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by dww123

Ridiculous opinion.

If a fighter gets punched solid repeatedly in the face you will know it. If they don't show signs of bruising and bleeding then they were successfully avoiding the brunt of the impact with head movement. This 'leather skin' concept is rubbish.

Sam Stout after last fight

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BJ Penn after last fight

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what i was thinkin

Vaughany · 08-13-12, 02:44 AM

Originally posted by dww123

Ridiculous opinion.

If a fighter gets punched solid repeatedly in the face you will know it. If they don't show signs of bruising and bleeding then they were successfully avoiding the brunt of the impact with head movement. This 'leather skin' concept is rubbish.

Sam Stout after last fight

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BJ Penn after last fight

Penn.jpg

Black dudes dont get cut tho brah...old age concept here on SBR!

bogbat · 08-13-12, 05:50 AM

Stout doesn't look very damaged in that pic. Also it was taken hours after their fight when more signs of wear may show. As for BJ, his fight vs Diaz is the only time looking like that, it would be impossible not to when the guy you are facing breaks the record for the amount of strikes within a fight. Show me a pic of BJ looking anywhere near like that after he was beat up by GSP in BJ-GSP II or BJ-Matt Hughes II.

bogbat · 08-13-12, 06:00 AM

What you should also consider is the possibly of fighters accumulating a lot of the damage in a single round or two but winning the other three and looking worse for the wear. Also everyone has a slightly different bone structure with naturally sharper bone edges which makes them prone to more bruising and/or cutting. Moreover, there is a deviation of skin thickness from person to person.