Strikeforce: Barnett vs. Cormier (May 19th)

[Vitooch]

That is completely true. Just like if you never fought it does not automatically mean you are unable analyse fights.

But if someone is unable to analyse fights and has never fought should that person just stfu?

Funny how the fights I analyzed that you are criticizing me for were fight that I got correct! I was also able to pretty perfectly assess Straus/Sandro, Aguilar/Fuji, Cavalcante/Kyle, Amoussou/Rickels...Once again, not an expert, but I possess a decent enough knowledge and have watched enough fights to evaluate fighter strengths and weaknesses. I just dont get your obsession with me.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Funny how the fights I analyzed that you are criticizing me for were fight that I got correct! I was also able to pretty perfectly assess Straus/Sandro, Aguilar/Fuji, Cavalcante/Kyle, Amoussou/Rickels...Once again, not an expert, but I possess a decent enough knowledge and have watched enough fights to evaluate fighter strengths and weaknesses. I just dont get your obsession with me.

Lol, you just regurgitate opinions from sherdog. If you had any clue about "standup" as you call it you would have never said "Cormier will cruise behind his jab" because in order to do that he would have to remain 7 inches on the inside of barnett's reach just landing jabs while somehow not getting hit or clinched, lol. The method to victory you claimed Cormier would take is pretty much impossible, notice how he didn't land one jab the whole fight genius. He barely even tried to throw it.

It's really not hard to pick a fighter and write a VAGUE analysis to support your pick. But you can't even seem to do that without looking like the know nothing twerp you are.

[Vitooch]

Lol, you just regurgitate opinions from sherdog. If you had any clue about "standup" as you call it you would have never said "Cormier will cruise behind his jab" because in order to do that he would have to remain 7 inches on the inside of barnett's reach just landing jabs while somehow not getting hit or clinched, lol. The method to victory you claimed Cormier would take is pretty much impossible, notice how he didn't land one jab the whole fight genius. He barely even tried to throw it.

It's really not hard to pick a fighter and write a VAGUE analysis to support your pick. But you can't even seem to do that without looking like the know nothing twerp you are.

I also said in his other posts that the his superior hand speed gives him an advantage on the feet, and that his wrestling combined with athleticism would help him control the pace of the fight and where it takes place, which is accurate. You just seem to zone in on one point i made that wasnt exactly on point.

I would love to see what youre like in real life. Youre probably just as mich of a pathetic loser as you claim that I am.

[DeFactoCrippler]

I also said in his other posts that the his superior hand speed gives him an advantage on the feet, and that his wrestling combined with athleticism would help him control the pace of the fight and where it takes place, which is accurate. You just seem to zone in on one point i made that wasnt exactly on point.

Like I said, you just regurgitate opinions and you have no clue if they are right or wrong. Its not that you made a wrong point, its that you were so incredibly wrong it shows you really have no idea what you're talking about. Please read again

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.

I would love to see what youre like in real life. Youre probably just as mich of a pathetic loser as you claim that I am.

Lol, atleast you know I couldn't be worse.

[DeFactoCrippler]

. You just seem to zone in on one point i made that wasnt exactly on point.

If I said Pat Barry was going to pepper Stefan Struve with head kicks you would probably think I'm dumber than dirt. If you knew anything about "standup" (lol) you would realize just how stupid you are.

[Vitooch]

I dont regurgitate opinions, I usually base my capping off of the fighters' previous fights. To be fair, I do read up on other people's opinions on the fights, but I definitely have my own opinions.

[Vitooch]

If I said Pat Barry was going to pepper Stefan Struve with head kicks you would probably think I'm dumber than dirt. If you knew anything about "standup" (lol) you would realize just how stupid you are.

You think Cormiers chances of jabbing the much slower Barnett is the equivalent of Pat Barry head kicking Struve? And if you can provide me with one other bad analysis, Im all ears.

[DeFactoCrippler]

You think Cormiers chances of jabbing the much slower Barnett is the equivalent of Pat Barry head kicking Struve? And if you can provide me with one other bad analysis, Im all ears.

Your analysis of the Tavares fight. "He won't be able to deal with the calibre of standup Tavares" lol.

Tavares really brought out the top level stuff. Looks like he just learned the double jab right hand and wanted to try it out, lord. I'll give it to him he really did mix it up with uhhh leg kick.

"Perfect stylistic matchup for tavares" lol. The whole analysis was shit and I pissed all over you.

[DeFactoCrippler]

I dont regurgitate opinions, I usually base my capping off of the fighters' previous fights. To be fair, I do read up on other people's opinions on the fights, but I definitely have my own opinions.

Yeah you just seem to draw the same conclusions as the general MMA fanboy public (and other sbr cappers) except well after the fact. Then you decide to mix it up with your own genius musings, like the cormier fight, lol.

[Vitooch]

Your analysis of the Tavares fight. "He won't be able to deal with the calibre of standup Tavares" lol.

Tavares really brought out the top level stuff. Looks like he just learned the double jab right hand and wanted to try it out, lord. I'll give it to him he really did mix it up with uhhh leg kick.

"Perfect stylistic matchup for tavares" lol. The whole analysis was shit and I pissed all over you.

Tavares outstruck Yang in the first round. He landed more strikes, whether they be body kicks, straight rights or overhand rights. As expected, Yang landed the more powerful strikes, but they were in far less volume. In the second round, it was clear that the eye poke affected Tavares's vision, as he was rubbing it after EVERY exchange. In the thirs round, Yang gassed and practically threw no strikes. If it wasn't for the eye poke, which I can't forsee, Tavares probably would have won won all three rounds.

[Vitooch]

Yeah you just seem to draw the same conclusions as the general MMA fanboy public (and other sbr cappers) except well after the fact. Then you decide to mix it up with your own genius musings, like the cormier fight, lol.

Should I make shit up just to have a different opinion? Obvious our opinions are going to be similar, dumbass.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Should I make shit up just to have a different opinion? Obvious our opinions are going to be similar, dumbass.

It becomes difficult to believe hey are "your" opinions when you say such outlandish things in your analysis. It makes you think that you are some little kid who has never fought before and gets all his info from Sherdog. oh wait.

[Vitooch]

It becomes difficult to believe hey are "your" opinions when you say such outlandish things in your analysis. It makes you think that you are some little kid who has never fought before and gets all his info from Sherdog. oh wait.

Outlandish? Cormier is the faster, generally better boxer, which I pointed out. Just because he didn't land as many jabs as I thought, doesn't make the prediction outlandish, just partially inaccurate. It is NOT the same as saying Barry would land a headkick on Struve.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Tavares outstruck Yang in the first round. He landed more strikes, whether they be body kicks, straight rights or overhand rights. As expected, Yang landed the more powerful strikes, but they were in far less volume. In the second round, it was clear that the eye poke affected Tavares's vision, as he was rubbing it after EVERY exchange. In the thirs round, Yang gassed and practically threw no strikes. If it wasn't for the eye poke, which I can't forsee, Tavares probably would have won won all three rounds.

You BIASED analysis aside, was Tavares the best value on the board as you claimed? Was Tavares even a good bet at -185?

The answer to the first question is "lol".

The answer to the second question is "no". You made a square bet because the line closed around -135. (In fact it dropped right after you said to pound Tavares, lol).

I'm not sure you understand this, because you have only been capping for a few months. Once again, please read

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.

Isn't it really funny you think you know so much about the things you are a relative novice at? And in the case of fighting, a complete outsider.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Outlandish? Cormier is the faster, generally better boxer, which I pointed out. Just because he didn't land as many jabs as I thought, doesn't make the prediction outlandish, just partially inaccurate. It is NOT the same as saying Barry would land a headkick on Struve.

Do I need to draw a fuking diagram for you? This is what I mean about idiots who have never fought. It's like saying Paquiao will outjab Klitzko because he is faster.

He will just zip inside and back out again! God you are a moron.

[Vitooch]

Do I need to draw a fuking diagram for you? This is what I mean about idiots who have never fought. It's like saying Paquiao will outjab Klitzko because he is faster.

He will just zip inside and back out again! God you are a moron.

Once again, you're making a very silly, unrealistic analogy, just like Barry and Struve. This analogy, though, is even sillier than the last one. Moron.

[DeFactoCrippler]

Once again, you're making a very silly, unrealistic analogy, just like Barry and Struve. This analogy, though, is even sillier than the last one. Moron.

It's because I'm talking to an idiot who has never fought before. I explained why it was nearly impossible for Cormier to accomplish what you said he would. You had no answer to that. You don't understand how stupid you actually sound, so I had to offer an analogy you might understand.

Believe me it is not very far off.

[Vitooch]

You BIASED analysis aside, was Tavares the best value on the board as you claimed? Was Tavares even a good bet at -185?

The answer to the first question is "lol".

The answer to the second question is "no". You made a square bet because the line closed around -135. (In fact it dropped right after you said to pound Tavares, lol).

I'm not sure you understand this, because you have only been capping for a few months. Once again, please read



Isn't it really funny you think you know so much about the things you are a relative novice at? And in the case of fighting, a complete outsider.

I did not expect this line to drop. Once again, not claiming to be an expert, just voicing my opinion.

If it wasn't for the eye poke, the second round would have been closer. To me -135 is insane value. -185 was solid value.

[Vitooch]

It's because I'm talking to an idiot who has never fought before. I explained why it was nearly impossible for Cormier to accomplish what you said he would. You had no answer to that. You don't understand how stupid you actually sound, so I had to offer an analogy you might understand.

Believe me it is not very far off.

By the way, I have attended BJJ classes and roll with my friends often.

[DeFactoCrippler]

I did not expect this line to drop. Once again, not claiming to be an expert, just voicing my opinion.

If it wasn't for the eye poke, the second round would have been closer. To me -135 is insane value. -185 was solid value.

Thais is because you are a little twerp who knows nothing about handicapping. If gabe said this Nunya would crawl right up his ass. I wonder if he will do the same to you.

[Vitooch]

Thais is because you are a little twerp who knows nothing about handicapping. If gabe said this Nunya would crawl right up his ass. I wonder if he will do the same to you.

I could not forsee the eye poke. If the eye poke did not significantly affect his vision, then the second round would have been much closer.

[DeFactoCrippler]

By the way, I have attended BJJ classes and roll with my friends often.

And because you rolling with your friends (no homo) allows you to comment on the nuances of range and distance when punching. Which you clearly know nothing about?

[Vitooch]

And because you rolling with your friends (no homo) allows you to comment on the nuances of range and distance when punching. Which you clearly know nothing about?

I boxed with my friends once...got knocked out by some older kid with a huge reach

[DeFactoCrippler]

I boxed with my friends once...got knocked out by some older kid with a huge reach

i respect you now.

[Vitooch]

It's funny because George Carlin is dead!

[DeFactoCrippler]

It's funny because George Carlin is dead!

I guess he pissed on you from beyond the grave?

[Vitooch]

I guess he pissed on you from beyond the grave?

Yea man he really got me good

[MMAbetMASTA]

Cerrone, Petis, Maynard, Barboza etc....

lol at you haters...the guy has one tough performance and you're so quick to write him off... pathetic.

I just think we underestimated josh and josh is really that good.

I laugh at everyone that are ufc nut huggers, just because guys have done well outside the ufc doesn't mean they have foguht a drasticallly lower level of comp or are fighting 'c' 'b' level fights... Gil is still the man and a legit threat to anyone in the ufc. He had a rough night, hmmm his only rought fight in what... 6 matches???

GTFO you hating clowns...

[MMAbetMASTA]

Junkie, Sherdog had it for Melendez

so did mma mania, bloody elbow, mma weekly and everyone else watching the fight with me scored it correctly - first 3 rounds for gil, therefore 48-47 gil... I could see the argument for a 10-10 1st rnd, but no way josh got the 10-9 in any of the first three rounds therefore no way josh gets the decision, he gets a draw at best and even with a draw I disagree with and thankfully the majority of credible people seem to agree that gil got the 48-47 decision.

Very close fight, but I knew I was gonna hop on here today and see a bunch of haters lol...

Judges got it right, haters just were hoping to see us lose. In retrospect it was a stupid play paying gil SU and its a lesson learned, I def underestimated josh as I think many did and that was a tough fight for both men. Solid match, both guys are animals and very talented.

[MMAbetMASTA]

Lol at fanboys jumping off their melendez bandwagon when they have no clue what happened in that fight.

I couldn't agree more man... its pathetic.

[MMAbetMASTA]

INTERNET / -1	Ticket #: 69828086 May 19 10:47 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [24606] G MELENDEZ -425 (J THOMPSON vrs G MELENDEZ)	425 / 100	100	WIN WIN	05/14/2012 01:21 PM
INTERNET / -1	Ticket #: 69907797 May 19 10:47 PM	MU	STRAIGHT BET [24606] G MELENDEZ -425 (J THOMPSON vrs G MELENDEZ)	319 / 75	75	WIN WIN	05/16/2012 01:46 PM

INTERNET / -1

Ticket #: 70061174 May 19 10:27 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET [24610] R CAVALCANTE -190 (M KYLE vrs R CAVALCANTE)

95 / 50

50

WIN WIN

05/19/2012 10:21 PM

INTERNET / -1

Ticket #: 70058039 May 19 10:10 PM

MU

STRAIGHT BET [24613] C SPANG +215 (C SPANG vrs N BURRELL)

25 / 54

54

WIN WIN

05/19/2012 09:24 PM

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Solid night, 280 profit. That will be the first and last time I ever pay that kind of juice on a fighter SU, gil / thomspon was just too close and was def sweating. Did not expect it to be so competitive and even though I won I feel stupid for paying that juice... thaknfully the judges got it right and the decision went to gil. Funny the matches I bet the least on were the easiest wins of the night - always in hind sight!!!!

Congrats to the winners, especially cormier backers - I knew I should have gone with the trend here and taken him, but many of my friends were big on barnette and I just couldn't call that fight with any sort of confidence... but man, DC OWNED!!! Hopefully josh still goes to the ufc, he'd demolish a handful of guys at that weight class, they are in big need more talent imo..

Congrats to the winners

[Vitooch]

Still think Bendo, Edgar would beat him

[MMAbetMASTA]

Still think Bendo, Edgar would beat him

I'd agree for the most part, but you'd be a fool to count gil out!

[Vitooch]

Absolutely! Think he could beat guys like Maynard, Guida, Pettis...

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

lol at you haters...the guy has one tough performance and you're so quick to write him off... pathetic.

I just think we underestimated josh and josh is really that good.

I laugh at everyone that are ufc nut huggers, just because guys have done well outside the ufc doesn't mean they have foguht a drasticallly lower level of comp or are fighting 'c' 'b' level fights... Gil is still the man and a legit threat to anyone in the ufc. He had a rough night, hmmm his only rought fight in what... 6 matches???

GTFO you hating clowns...

I'm a hater because i think there are fighters that can beat him???

I'm a UFC nuthugger? this forum has really added a bunch of internet tough guys of late. Come here with the nuthugger, noob, cans, and go back to Sherdog talk