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That is a SEVERE exaggeration. Machida and Rampage could have EASILY uppercutted a Jon Jones who is standing still in front of them in that position. It would be a CLEAN shot. Why waste a post with this extreme exaggeration, I don't get it. If Machida got on his knees, he would have to punch up to touch Jon's chin, it wouldn't be an uppercut.
In that position, Jon's head is at the height of the opponents groin, not ankles.
A) When Jones is in that position, I'm sure he is above 4 feet. B) Yeah, I would easily knock someone out with an uppercut if they were in that position 3 feet off the ground in front of me.Comment -
I'm with Vaughany here. Punching somebody that low isn't easy and they probably never train to punch at that angle. There's actually a very powerful (very hard to stop) takedown that Jones could do from there that we used to call "The Dive". I haven't seen anybody use it yet in MMA. I think Jones could easily catch some guys with it.Comment -
We weren't talking about whether it'd be easy or not lol of course it wouldn't be easy, especially 'cos of the movement.
He was saying Machida would have to get on his knees to reach Jones' chin. I was saying that's not true. I've seen a lot of fighters start upercutting opponents as soon as they fall to their knees, so it's easy to hit someone who is that low- just not easy when they're moving around like Jon Jones.
"The Dive" sounds interesting, would be sweet if he used it. I get excited about new maneuvers being used for the first time in the Octagon.Comment -
Lesnar will beat Overeem. He has better cardio. If he gets on top of Overeem just once, it will all be over.Comment -
It escalated from there. You said Machida would have to be on his knees to be able to punch Jon Jones in the face in that position.
I said I've seen fighters who have knocked opponents down to their knees then continued with shots to the face, then you said you had never seen it and asked for examples.
I don't know, you're confusing, man.Comment -
can we get back to the fight?Comment -
Frank Mir is saying Brock has a 90% of winning because he can take him down. That doesn't really scare me because I believe Overeem can sub him off his back in round one at least until he gasses out. If this fight gets to round 2 Overeem is done. Brock has a nice gas tank for this size.Comment -
I view the "monkey crawling" as a mental tactic. When the bout first starts JJ's opponent is looking down, then the beast stands at full height...
On the topic of Overeem vs Lesnar: I highly doubt Allistairs ability to submit Brock from the bottom. The only sub I feel Ubereem could pull off would be a guillotine choke from TDD, but obviously this will wear on his arms.
If Brock takes Allistair down, Allistair will want to stand up very quickly rather than fishing for subs.
Neither fighter has proven their cardio. I give Brock a slight edge in the cardio based on his wrestling background. If the fight goes into "deep waters" his superior wrestling should be able to take a tired Allistair down and keep him there.
Brock has everything to gain and nothing to lose with this fight.
At this point in time I pick Allistair in this fight mainly due to Brocks surgery. %wise I feel fighters coming off an injury do worse in their first fight back. I want to see weigh ins as it will give an indication of Brocks condition.Comment -
Man, I got too used to having a card every weekend. This sucks. I'm feeling withdrawals.Comment -
You're right at heavyweight he has looked better. But most of his pride fights at LHW he gassed really bad. He's only went 3 rounds against Werdum at heavyweight so we will see. I just cant see him coming into this fight with great cardio with how horrible his camp has been.Comment -
Andre Ward vs Carl Froch as well
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Machida would have had to of gotten on his knees to uppercut Jones
