Fedor v. Hendo

[Chairib]

yawn

[kmdubya]

That's what everyone was saying about Bisping when Hendo and him fought and that didn't turn out well for Bisping at all, (I'm not compairing talent because Bisping Blows, just stating that everyone said "theres no way that he can even be Knocked down)

I don't think anyone ever said that about Bisping. They just said he hadn't been knocked down/out. Big difference.

[snufflyjoe]

I think Hendo will play a smart patient game plan against Fedor and will win a close decision... we all like Fedor but his recent loses need to be considered as well as the mental effect those loses has had on him he is now on a 2 fight losing skid and is in a must win situation against a very dangerous guy ..Hendo has looked in pretty good form recently and is a very durable opponent with heavy hands and wrestling. He has nothing to lose in this fight if he loses he loses against Fedor (a HW) he gets a fat paycheck and gets to keep his lhw belt, if he wins he defeats a heavyweight legend and the accolades that come with that as well as a fat paycheck..Fedor is my favourite mma fighter but to me a lot of signs make this a favourable fight for hendo and I think he wins it 6/10 times...Hendo @ +185 is a good play

[Swinging Johnson]

I agree on Fedor but not on Coenen. That article was wrong about a bunch of things too. Said Hendo was once a welterweight and fight is at 220lbs.

Well yeah Henderson was a welterweight in PRIDE but he could have made it clearer that PRIDES welterweights are almost UFC's middleweights but the fight is at a catchweight of 220 (and not the 270 max of UFC heavyweights).

[Hannibal]

Does anyone think Hendo can win a "grind em against the cage" type decision?Lindland was able to get double underhooks and body lock on fedor quite easily. If not for the space available and the rope, Fedor might not have been able to reverse him so easily.How does Fedor react against the cage?Almost all of the recent training videos of fedor... he has been striking and sparring. It worries me that he is spending so much time in this domain.. when he is already superior.How will their wrestling match up? Hendo is susceptible to takedowns.. but mainly from lower body attacks like doubles and singles. I dont recall Fedor attacking with these types of takedowns in recent fights. His game is usually clinch takedowns, where dan is equally strong. Will their wrestling cancel out? is this what Fedor's camp is anticipating?- hence the striking heavy training. Have they taken into account that Dan may hope to stall/grind against the cage Couture style?I have 8% of my BR on Fedor and i'm having some concerns. Maybe hedge a portion with hendo by decision..?

[Chairib]

Honestly it's pretty difficult to try to be interested in this one. Maybe if Fedor got off of his fat ass and dropped down to lhw it would be worth a watch. But having a guy who normally competes at middleweight jump up to heavyweight? There's nothing at stake here.

[Hannibal]

My money is at stake

[Vaughany]

Honestly it's pretty difficult to try to be interested in this one. Maybe if Fedor got off of his fat ass and dropped down to lhw it would be worth a watch. But having a guy who normally competes at middleweight jump up to heavyweight? There's nothing at stake here.

Tend to agree, Im a lot more interested in Woodley/Daley and Saffiedine/Smith, and not just from a betting perspective.

[NutsINyoMOUTH]

Tend to agree, Im a lot more interested in Woodley/Daley and Saffiedine/Smith, and not just from a betting perspective.

You're a moron...two of the top 5 MMA fighters of all time are fighting and you're more interested in Saffiedine/Smith? I agree from a betting perspective the other 2 fights are easier to predict and more interesting bet-wise, just because it doesn't have the UFC hype machine behind it doesn't mean it's not a big fight. The only UFC fights bigger are JDS vs Cain and GSP vs Diaz. Sorry but Edgar/Maynard will be a snooze fest and Jones/Rampage is a mismatch. Have a nice day

[Hannibal]

I dont know how you're not interested in this fight.I watch martial arts for the martial arts.Two highly skilled fighters, similar size, and reasonable routes to victory for either man. I'd watch almost anything as long is its the best of the best doing it.If you are only concerned about title implications, career path and legacy, or picking an easy winner than this might explain the lack of interest

[Chairib]

Tend to agree, Im a lot more interested in Woodley/Daley and Saffiedine/Smith, and not just from a betting perspective.

Vaughany shows great wisdom and I agree with your agreement of my previous post.

[Vaughany]

or picking an easy winner than this might explain the lack of interest

You might be on to something with this. One thing I have started to realize is that the more betting I do on MMA the less "fan boyish" I am about fights like these. Perhaps a couple years ago before I started betting on MMA I might of been amped about Fedor vs Hendo, but now Im not that hyped! Same with soccer though, used to be crazily in to that but now find it difficult to watch more than 15 minutes of a game without getting bored

[omalley21]

Hendo's coming in at 206.1 lbs.

Fedor doesn't sound very motivated in this article.

http://mma.sbnation.com/2011/7/26/2293875/fedor-emelianenko-strikeforce-heavyweight-training-mma-news

[Mr Handicapable]

Its a strange fight....Hendo doesn't really throw combos and Fedor has been hit by alot of bigger/stronger guys than Hendo. It all comes down to Fedor's state of mind imo. If he's ready to roll then he'll submit him in the 2nd or 3rd. I say this but I wouldn't be shocked to see Hendo win either...decision maybe? Wanderlei Silva looked damn near invincible too but when its gone...its gone. As a Fedor fan I'd like to see Fedor get some new life at 205 but he needs to win convincingly and probably at 215-220 as he's working himself down to 205. We'll see what happens on Saturday night...I'm going with Fedor by submission late 2nd or 3rd

I don't get Hendo running his mouth? He's not really talking $hit but its a great example of why I like Fedor. He respects his opponents and doesn't run his mouth...just fights and lets that speak for him. I guess there has to be the WWW element to MMA for some young guys but its stupid to me.

[bjpenn85]

Same thing here. Hannibal is right. we are just very spoiled. Im still addicted to MMA, but something has happened. Prior, i did not need to even bet. I could leave people to see a ufc event alone, at home without betting.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Hendo at 206? thought he'd be coming in heavier

[Chairib]

You might be on to something with this. One thing I have started to realize is that the more betting I do on MMA the less "fan boyish" I am about fights like these. Perhaps a couple years ago before I started betting on MMA I might of been amped about Fedor vs Hendo, but now Im not that hyped! Same with soccer though, used to be crazily in to that but now find it difficult to watch more than 15 minutes of a game without getting bored

Is there anything worse than the MMA fanboy?

[Vaughany]

Is there anything worse than the MMA fanboy?

ha Im yet to come across anything worse!

[jesuseatsnubs]

While my money wud def be on Fedor .. I'll still be rooting for Dan to knock his fking head off lol

[kmdubya]

You're a moron...two of the top 5 MMA fighters of all time are fighting and you're more interested in Saffiedine/Smith? I agree from a betting perspective the other 2 fights are easier to predict and more interesting bet-wise, just because it doesn't have the UFC hype machine behind it doesn't mean it's not a big fight. The only UFC fights bigger are JDS vs Cain and GSP vs Diaz. Sorry but Edgar/Maynard will be a snooze fest and Jones/Rampage is a mismatch. Have a nice day

Two of the top five all time?

You sir, broke my rediculous-meter.

[Vrakas]

fedor will knock dan down what he does next is up to him.easy win for fedor.sub or knockout this fight will probably end in the first round.If anyone wants to bet on dan they should wait as the odds will change.He should be around +300 or even better by fight day.

[sirchadwick1]

Two of the top five all time?

You sir, broke my rediculous-meter.

You have to at least consider Fedor as a top 5 goat. The man looked unstoppable for a decade.

[kmdubya]

You have to at least consider Fedor as a top 5 goat. The man looked unstoppable for a decade.

I'll be the first to admit, I personally believe Fedor has been overrated his entire career. But he is in the GOAT discussion for sure. Top 5? I'll conceed that.

I was referring more to Henderson. I'd be streched to consider him top 10 GOAT, even top 20 he'd get left off a lot of lists.

[Hannibal]

Fedor is a bad motherfkr. He has all the physical tools and skills to stay one of the best. If only he had the mentality of GSP, he'd still be one the greatest. By that i mean... only taking fights he can win, against smaller or same size opponents, and fighting to his opponent's weaknesses with a safer strategy.

[kmdubya]

If only he had the mentality of GSP, he'd still be one the greatest. By that i mean... only taking fights he can win, against smaller or same size opponents, and fighting to his opponent's weaknesses with a safer strategy.

That statement actually broke my ALREADY BROKEN rediculous meter. Although all of that statement is just plain wrong, I'll only ask about the first part.

"Only takes fights he can win"

Name just one fight GSP ducked because he thought he couldn't win.

[snufflyjoe]

Really pumped for this fight and Fedor is my favourite fighter but I will not be betting on him this weekend...the bookies are giving henderson a 35% chance of winning where as I think Hendo wins this 55-65% of the time based on recent performance.



Without even looking at Fedors last 2 losses look at his last 2 wins...
Brett Rodgers
November 7, 2009 - A Fight in which Fedor was in trouble multiple times, was mounted, had his nose broke until he landed that bomb on rodgers


Andrei Arlovski January 24, 2009 Arlovski was getting the better of the striking and dictating the distance against fedor until he
went for a flying knee which was countered perfectly by fedor.


Before these 2 you have Tim Sylvia (July 19, 2008) then Hong Man Choi (December 31, 2007) then
Matt Lindland April 14, 2007, you dont get to your Cro-cop fight till august 2005, Big Nog 2004.

Fedor has defeated some Elite fighters in his career but that was a long time ago

[Hannibal]

GSP didnt fight Silva and he made it clear that he never will. What i meant to say is that GSP will only fight with every possible advantage available to him - the best training, diet, psychologists, largest possible size for his weight class, safest strategy and tactics. Thats not an insult.. it has obviously worked for him. But he will never challenge himself in a situation where the odds are clearly against his favour... and thats why i admire fighters like BJ Penn much more, and why guys like Sakuraba have a legacy.

[Hannibal]

Attacking someone for his spelling and grammar is generally beneath me... but it's ridiculous that you cant spell ridiculous.

[kmdubya]

GSP didnt fight Silva and he made it clear that he never will. What i meant to say is that GSP will only fight with every possible advantage available to him - the best training, diet, psychologists, largest possible size for his weight class, safest strategy and tactics. Thats not an insult.. it has obviously worked for him. But he will never challenge himself in a situation where the odds are clearly against his favour... and thats why i admire fighters like BJ Penn much more, and why guys like Sakuraba have a legacy.

I don't know where you make this stuff up from, but if the Silva arguement is the best one you've got, then I salute your redickulossness.

You admire BJ Penn for his ability to put himself in difficult situation? So not training to put himself at a disadvantage is something to admire? You'd better have a tattoo of Roy Nelson riding the Hamburglar then somewhere on you.

[kmdubya]

Attacking someone for his spelling and grammar is generally beneath me... but it's ridiculous that you cant spell ridiculous.

Glad you can lower yourself to my standards.

[sirchadwick1]

Odds/Props just released at bodog

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

[kmdubya]

My biggest concern in this fight was the potentail size difference. This really doesn't show a huge difference.

[sirchadwick1]

Size difference isn't much at all... Fedor has always been a small HW. Damn, that side profile on Hendo is epic.

[koscheckbaby]

Hendo legally juices(TRT). He was throwing Feijao around, who probably is similar size wise to Fedor.