UFC 211: Miocic vs. Dos Santos 2 (May 13, 2017)

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  • eligibletackle
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    • 12-20-11
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    #106
    Originally posted by Teem
    A few quick questions because I know most of you here use 5dimes for betting. I hope nobody minds me asking. Do you guys ever have any problems with withdrawals on 5dimes? Also, do you ever have a problem with cashing those international checks into your banks? Isn't it like you have to have at least $1,000 before you can even request cashing out?
    get with BTC. Use coinbase and it's ~$8 to convert local currency to BTC (or maybe a percentage of total conversion amount rather than a flat fee - it's still nominal) - then you can withdrawal/deposit from 5D free of charge via BTC. Withdrawal via ** cost ~$20 and has a limit. Can't vouch for checks. If you want to make a withdraw in excess of $1k w/ least amount of issues then have a BTC wallet - coinbase recommended
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    • eligibletackle
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      #107
      I get why Masvidal is a live dog here but the line movement does confound me a little bit.

      A few points Re: Maia/MacDonald
      - RoMac much larger than Masvidal
      - Tri-Star/Zahabi fighters are very disciplined & complacent w/ decision W. Masvidal is from the opposite school

      I am not buying that Maia is not a 3rd round fighter as mentioned before. He is not a 3rd round fighter when stifled for a full round like w/ RoMac - that I agree. I am more inclined to subscribe to the logic that Masvidal's style, specifically if down a round/aggressive, will assist w/ Maia's gameplan if he doesn't get touched up. RoMac was damn near squatting for the whole 15min to prevent to TD.

      Shouldn't Maia/Brown be the fight worth revisiting when trying to size up Maia/Masvidal, and not MacDonald? My $0.02.
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      • firekillex
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        #108
        Originally posted by eligibletackle
        I get why Masvidal is a live dog here but the line movement does confound me a little bit.

        A few points Re: Maia/MacDonald
        - RoMac much larger than Masvidal
        - Tri-Star/Zahabi fighters are very disciplined & complacent w/ decision W. Masvidal is from the opposite school

        I am not buying that Maia is not a 3rd round fighter as mentioned before. He is not a 3rd round fighter when stifled for a full round like w/ RoMac - that I agree. I am more inclined to subscribe to the logic that Masvidal's style, specifically if down a round/aggressive, will assist w/ Maia's gameplan if he doesn't get touched up. RoMac was damn near squatting for the whole 15min to prevent to TD.

        Shouldn't Maia/Brown be the fight worth revisiting when trying to size up Maia/Masvidal, and not MacDonald? My $0.02.
        masvidal isnt anything like rory but were giving examples of Maia completely gassing late
        Im actually on Maia at + money its great value, but hes shown he gasses multiple times

        i agree brown is more comparable to masvidal , but watch the fight over again ... Maia shot 4 of the shittiest takedowns ive ever seen in the first 30 seconds of the 3rd round, all of them got stuffed and he got completely rocked after missing one shot but Brown rushed into his guard with his low fight IQ, Masvidal wouldnt make that mistake imo.... bet it like this


        Maia +115 underdog straight 3 units
        Masvidal +1300 wins round 3 .5units

        best way to play it after watching tape imo
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        • firekillex
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          #109
          hugo i know were both on Andrade here... was hoping for it to get over +150 but looks like its stuck at +140....
          you just playing it straight ?? contemplating what i wanna do here i like Andrade though
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          • Hugo de Naranja
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            • 04-14-16
            • 14140

            #110
            Originally posted by firekillex
            hugo i know were both on Andrade here... was hoping for it to get over +150 but looks like its stuck at +140....
            you just playing it straight ?? contemplating what i wanna do here i like Andrade though
            Fight #12: Jedrzejczyk (C) vs. Andrade
            Andrade (+140) 2u
            Andrade (+145) 2u
            Andrade Decision (+480) 1u
            Andrade Round 1 (+625) 1.5u
            Andrade Round 2 (+850) 1u
            Andrade Split/Majority Decision (+1200) .25u

            Hedge(s):
            Jedrzejczyk Unanimous Decision (+220) 1u
            Jedrzejczyk Round 4 (+1550) .25u
            Jedrzejczyk Round 5 (+1950) .25u
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            • Sanity Check
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              #111
              Originally posted by bjpenn85

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              Originally posted by brooks85

              you mean the best fighter out there?

              yeah, I'm ok with that.
              Watch the 2nd Frankie Edgar vs Jose Aldo fight, over again.

              Here's what you're looking for: its a 5 round fight. Jose Aldo is only active the last 1-2 minutes of each round.

              Frankie Edgar was ahead of almost every round going into the last 1-2 minutes as Jose Aldo hardly did anything.

              Then Jose Aldo comes back to steal almost every round in the last 1-2 minutes when he's active.

              Losing that way shows how far Frankie Edgar has fallen imo.
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              • PaperTrail07
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                #112
                Looks like Liddell is coming back.....UFC legends division gonna be real? If so, they should do it all in 1 night LOL....

                Vitor VS Nate Marq
                Liddell Vs ?

                Anyone have a guess?
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                • PaperTrail07
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                  #113
                  Could also see a Bellator sign and watch him fight Rampage...
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                  • JIBBBY
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                    #114
                    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                    Looks like Liddell is coming back.....UFC legends division gonna be real? If so, they should do it all in 1 night LOL....

                    Vitor VS Nate Marq
                    Liddell Vs ?

                    Anyone have a guess?
                    Liddell is a 100 years old and his chin is pure glass. Bad move unless he fights old cans like Ken Shamrock, Royce Gracie, Phil Baroni, etc.. Me tinks Vitor, Nate, and or Rampage would crush the Chuckster today...

                    Bellator is known for bringing hall of famers out of retirement in the past, it typically has paid off for them as well. Not surprising to see if it happens..

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                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                      #115
                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                      Liddell is a 100 years old and his chin is pure glass. Bad move unless he fights old cans like Ken Shamrock, Royce Gracie, Phil Baroni, etc.. Me tinks Vitor, Nate, and or Rampage would crush the Chuckster today...

                      Bellator is known for bringing hall of famers out of retirement in the past, it typically has paid off for them as well. Not surprising to see if it happens..

                      Certainly fade material. Hasn't fought since 2010. 1-5 since 2007 and got knocked unconscious in 4 of those 5 losses.
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                      • PaperTrail07
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                        #116
                        Yeah he openly said it would have to be the right opponent....I would guess someone slower like Tito or Shamrock like you said...
                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        Certainly fade material. Hasn't fought since 2010. 1-5 since 2007 and got knocked unconscious in 4 of those 5 losses.
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                        • Sanity Check
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                          #117
                          I'll post some of my plays leading up to the event.

                          People might get a good laugh out of how silly they are.

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                          • JIBBBY
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                            • 12-10-09
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                            #118
                            I still haven't gotten around to capping this event completely... tick tock tick tock.... May 13...
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                            • Sanity Check
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                              #119
                              Fightland tried to do a detailed breakdown on Maia vs Masvidal.



                              Will try to read it, tomorrow when I wake up.
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                Fightland tried to do a detailed breakdown on Maia vs Masvidal.



                                Will try to read it, tomorrow when I wake up.
                                There is nothing to break down really.. If Maia doesn't get the early take downs he will eventually get lit up standing, if Maia does get the takedowns Masvidal is gonna be on his back and in trouble for 3 rounds or maybe even less..

                                It's really just that simple...

                                Maia has even improved with landing shots when he doesn't get the take downs.. Maia has evolved his game, really keeps his opponents defensive and worrying constantly about the taken downs.. Won't see many leg kicks coming Maia's way in fights just put it that way..



                                I see Masvidal getting taken down and mounted just like Rory Mac did in this gif below..

                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-03-17, 11:58 AM.
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  #121
                                  Could see Masvidals back taken, Maia seems to be relentless with the RNC's lately.. Just ask Matt Brown and Magny...

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                                  • ANGRYBLACK
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                                    #122
                                    I'm spazzing out over here. 3 fights away from hitting a $15,000 10teamer...
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                                    • firekillex
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                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by ANGRYBLACK
                                      I'm spazzing out over here. 3 fights away from hitting a $15,000 10teamer...
                                      https://nitrogensports.eu/betslip/bb...IrZz09/r/1530/
                                      100% hedge that bet...

                                      canelo should win so id bet 4k on stipe and 4k on JJ so you come out with money 100% almost
                                      but up to you, i wouldnt hold my breath on JDS and Andrade both winning could be tough
                                      GL
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                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                        #124
                                        HIT IT.....crazy last (3) though...
                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                        100% hedge that bet...

                                        canelo should win so id bet 4k on stipe and 4k on JJ so you come out with money 100% almost
                                        but up to you, i wouldnt hold my breath on JDS and Andrade both winning could be tough
                                        GL
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                                        • Sanity Check
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                                          #125
                                          Trying this.



                                          Will try to make some Frankie Edgar parlays to a point where I might profit no matter who wins.

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                                          • firekillex
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                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                            Trying this.



                                            Will try to make some Frankie Edgar parlays to a point where I might profit no matter who wins.

                                            looks like youre hoping edgar wins this
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                                            • ANGRYBLACK
                                              SBR MVP
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by firekillex
                                              looks like youre hoping edgar wins this
                                              He should. And so will his Cejundo pick 👍🏽
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by ANGRYBLACK
                                                He should. And so will his Cejundo pick 
                                                Henry might get exposed standing again in this one.. I think Sergio may actually out point Henry if it does stay standing.. Henry hype is just that hype..

                                                He better use his Olympic caliber wrestling in this match if he wants to win. It seems to me he like so many other great wrestlers in the past have fallen in love with striking and began to abandon his wrestling....

                                                Henry loser of 2 in a row now - http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Henry-Cejudo-125297

                                                Sergio has rattled off 3 decision wins in a row now.. I think the younger brother is coming into his own.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Sergio-Pettis-50987

                                                With all that being said maybe this has a chance...

                                                1407 Pettis wins by 3 round decision +325

                                                Main Card



                                                Henry
                                                Cejudo
                                                "The Messenger"
                                                vs
                                                Sergio
                                                Pettis

                                                UNITED STATES
                                                Country
                                                UNITED STATES

                                                10-2-0
                                                Record
                                                15-2-0

                                                40%
                                                KO/TKO
                                                20%

                                                0%
                                                SUB
                                                20%

                                                60%
                                                DEC
                                                60%

                                                64 in
                                                Height
                                                66 in

                                                125 lbs
                                                Weight
                                                125 lbs

                                                64 in
                                                Reach
                                                69 in

                                                37 in
                                                Leg Reach
                                                38 in
                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-04-17, 11:01 AM.
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                                                • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                  Henry might get exposed standing again in this one.. I think Sergio may actually out point Henry if it does stay standing.. Henry hype is just that hype..

                                                  He better use his Olympic caliber wrestling in this match if he wants to win. It seems to me he like so many other great wrestlers in the past have fallen in love with striking and began to abandon his wrestling....

                                                  Henry loser of 2 in a row now - http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Henry-Cejudo-125297

                                                  Sergio has rattled off 3 decision wins in a row now.. I think the younger brother is coming into his own.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Sergio-Pettis-50987

                                                  With all that being said maybe this has a chance...

                                                  1407 Pettis wins by 3 round decision +325

                                                  Main Card



                                                  Henry
                                                  Cejudo
                                                  "The Messenger"
                                                  vs
                                                  Sergio
                                                  Pettis

                                                  UNITED STATES
                                                  Country
                                                  UNITED STATES

                                                  10-2-0
                                                  Record
                                                  15-2-0

                                                  40%
                                                  KO/TKO
                                                  20%

                                                  0%
                                                  SUB
                                                  20%

                                                  60%
                                                  DEC
                                                  60%

                                                  64 in
                                                  Height
                                                  66 in

                                                  125 lbs
                                                  Weight
                                                  125 lbs

                                                  64 in
                                                  Reach
                                                  69 in

                                                  37 in
                                                  Leg Reach
                                                  38 in
                                                  Why not just play Pettis ML at only 10 cents worse (+315)
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                                                  • firekillex
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                                                    #130
                                                    Cejudo is going to absolutely roll Pettis here...
                                                    Pettis just isn't elite , he's super young and can develop but he's still to raw
                                                    did you guys watch Cejudos last fight vs Benvidez ? Guy looked like the 2-3rd best flyweight on the planet


                                                    just considering if I wanna go decision prop or ITD I think he could get the finish but he does like his decision victories , all in the UFC he's won by decision


                                                    and losing 2 in a row to DJ the best p4p fighter in the world arguably and he should've got the nod over Jospeh who's the 2nd best 125er lol not really any knock on his last few ...
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                                                    • JIBBBY
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                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                      Why not just play Pettis ML at only 10 cents worse (+315)
                                                      I didn't even look at the ML bet yet, didn't place yet either... Was just starting to cap this fight today and working the angles, throwing out ideas.... Yep Pettis ML straight is the call for sure if you are to play him!!!...

                                                      Hugo on top of things as usual.. I would have seen this eventually....

                                                      The Straight has better odds then the prop decision right now on 5dimes.. Lol..

                                                      UFC 211 - Flyweight 3 rounds - American Airlines Center - Dallas, Texas - PPV
                                                      Sat 5/13 1401 Sergio Pettis +345 o2½ -290
                                                      10:00PM 1402 Henry Cejudo -430 u2½ +245


                                                      1407 Pettis wins by 3 round decision +325
                                                      Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-04-17, 01:05 PM.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        • 12-10-09
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                                        Cejudo is going to absolutely roll Pettis here...
                                                        Pettis just isn't elite , he's super young and can develop but he's still to raw
                                                        did you guys watch Cejudos last fight vs Benvidez ? Guy looked like the 2-3rd best flyweight on the planet


                                                        just considering if I wanna go decision prop or ITD I think he could get the finish but he does like his decision victories , all in the UFC he's won by decision


                                                        and losing 2 in a row to DJ the best p4p fighter in the world arguably and he should've got the nod over Jospeh who's the 2nd best 125er lol not really any knock on his last few ...
                                                        Further exploring the prop possibilities and odds for Henry now -

                                                        Odds are trash for the decision prop for Henry

                                                        1411 Cejudo wins by 3 round decision -178
                                                        If you think Henry is gonna roll Serg then ITD is much better

                                                        1409 Cejudo wins inside distance +361
                                                        Henry isn't gonna sub him out most likely so it's probably gonna be a KO victory if he does win ITD..

                                                        1433 Cejudo wins by TKO/KO +475
                                                        Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-04-17, 01:12 PM.
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                                                        • firekillex
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                                                          #133
                                                          hell probably want to wrestle and clinch the striker for 3 rounds ... put that in a parlay at -170
                                                          then take a small stab at tko/ko prop

                                                          cannot see cejudo losing this imo, hes a much better fighter then Pettis at this moment
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                                                          • firekillex
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                                                            #134
                                                            anybody else like jessica alguilar at -120??
                                                            david branch at +125 some solid dog value as well in a really close matchup
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                                                            • Ty$
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                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                              Trying this.

                                                              Ya


                                                              Will try to make some Frankie Edgar parlays to a point where I might profit no matter who wins.

                                                              Talk about all your eggs in 1 basket
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                                                              • firekillex
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                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by Ty$
                                                                Talk about all your eggs in 1 basket
                                                                thats where you hedge again and bet frankie edgar to make 50% profit...
                                                                since imo he should win and the odds are solid on him at -140 range
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  I still think Yair has a chance to beat Frankie and by KO if he doesn't get taken down and grapple focked round after round.. GL gents..

                                                                  Remember Yair is 5'11 and Frankie is 5'6.. Big reach and height advantage and Yair is a striking based fighter..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Yair-Rodriguez-106305

                                                                  I remember seeing Frankie rocked and wobbled in several past fights. Had to go immediately into wrestling mode, shoot to survive. I think his chin is suspect and really got by this long with luck and grit.. He does recover well though I gotta admit..


                                                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-04-17, 11:03 PM.
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                                                                  • turbozed
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by eligibletackle
                                                                    get with BTC. Use coinbase and it's ~$8 to convert local currency to BTC (or maybe a percentage of total conversion amount rather than a flat fee - it's still nominal) - then you can withdrawal/deposit from 5D free of charge via BTC. Withdrawal via ** cost ~$20 and has a limit. Can't vouch for checks. If you want to make a withdraw in excess of $1k w/ least amount of issues then have a BTC wallet - coinbase recommended
                                                                    If you do decide to use Coinbase, remember to send money to a intermediary wallet like blockchain.info before shipping it out to a gambling site. Coinbase may shut down your account for sending to known gambling sites.
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                                                                    • firekillex
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      people thinking Yair is much better because he whooped an old BJ penn in the end of things people go off fighters by their last performances its a natural human thing....

                                                                      frankie is just the better fighter , Yair throws wild stuff and Edgar will probably get him down everytime
                                                                      Yair has a ton of potential and he couldve improved massively in the last 2 years but i just cant see him passing Edgar by yet

                                                                      in the future i could Yair being a top 3 guy but i dont feel like its his time yet, remember he got a split decision over Alex Caceres before beating an old done BJ penn who is tough but had 0 mobility, Frankie is much much harder to hit and plays angles better then 99% of fighters in mma
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                                                                      • bjpenn85
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                        anybody else like jessica alguilar at -120??
                                                                        david branch at +125 some solid dog value as well in a really close matchup
                                                                        Do you? I think Branch looks old. All small advantages goes to Jotko, speed, athleticism, rate of improvement per fight, perceived quality of competition. I say perceived because it is debatable, although, one should always favour fights in the ufc. +35 years means that you also are more prone to get a KO. Dont know how relevant this is for this particular matchup, because branch does seem to be a good striker. I just dont think he wins against an ever improving jotko. Man is very impressive. 0 respect for leites ground game. I do think that speak volumes of the person were dealing with.
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