UFC 211: Miocic vs. Dos Santos 2 (May 13, 2017)

[Ty$]

Andrade up to +155 nows the time boys

[JIBBBY]

JJ by decision, hedged Andrade ITD for me..

1111

Jedrzejczyk wins by 5 round decision

+133

1105

Andrade wins inside distance

+372

[Shagdogy]

Somebody posted a video on here recently of Masvidal rolling with Colby Covington in the living room of some apartment. It was recent, and if I remember correctly, Masvidal couldn't wrestle with him, but was able to be a little successful with his BJJ. I know they were just messing around, but still, if Masvidal can't stuff Maia's takedowns, he SURELY isn't gonna be able to reverse position once on the ground. Trouble for Masvidal?

I haven't got to that fight yet... when's the last time Masvidal really needed to defend takedowns 100% to win? Seems like he's fought a lot of guys willing to stand up.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Somebody posted a video on here recently of Masvidal rolling with Colby Covington in the living room of some apartment. It was recent, and if I remember correctly, Masvidal couldn't wrestle with him, but was able to be a little successful with his BJJ. I know they were just messing around, but still, if Masvidal can't stuff Maia's takedowns, he SURELY isn't gonna be able to reverse position once on the ground. Trouble for Masvidal?

I haven't got to that fight yet... when's the last time Masvidal really needed to defend takedowns 100% to win? Seems like he's fought a lot of guys willing to stand up.

Masvidal's TDD is overrated (he got taken down by Pearson, Larkin, Bendo, and Ferreira at WW). However, he is really hard to control on the ground. His developed get-up game makes him tough to LnP. That said, I'm pretty big on Maia here because I think his control and submission grappling is next level.

[JIBBBY]

Masvidal's TDD is overrated (he got taken down by Pearson, Larkin, Bendo, and Ferreira at WW). However, he is really hard to control on the ground. His developed get-up game makes him tough to LnP. That said, I'm pretty big on Maia here because I think his control and submission grappling is next level.

He'll take Masvidal down and control him.. That's what he does.. GO MAIA!!! TITLE SHOT??? ...

[JIBBBY]

Maia just needs to not get clipped standing.. Masvidal has upped his out put in fights lately and does bring it standing.. Masvidal is no joke and tough as nails when the fight stays standing..

Masvidal's last 7 losses have come by decision though.. Maybe Maia by decision is something to consider as well.. That Maia sub though is a real threat so I'm gun shy on taking Maia by decision.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jorge-Masvidal-7688

At +400 those odds are tempting though...

1211

Maia wins by 3 round decision

+393

[Hugo de Naranja]

AND NEW X2. Let's get it!

[RussianMike]

both are evenly skilled and lost to elite guys but eddie has beaten better competition
both have questionable chins imo.... its a toss up fight basically

and for the eddie chin debate, he doesnt have a good chin he DOES have great heart though its 2 different things

IMO tthough, Porier appears to be the one that wants it more, as he's been in fight game a while now, but still appears to be progressing and getting better fight after fight almost like he's new to it. Pretty much since he lost to Connor what, like 3 years ago, only then did he begin to stsrt stepping out of mediocrity. That shows me he's better disciplined and working for something. Alvarez already ate. Porier of 2014 wouldnt have lasted one round with Jim Miller.

[RussianMike]

Dont overestimate the advantage. Joanna still prefers the counter as her bread and butter and never appears to be using her jabs for distance.

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC 211: Miocic vs. Dos Santos II Picks:
Gadzhimurad Antigulov Round 1 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
Enrique Barzola Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
Cortney Casey Round 1 TKO (Punches and Elbows)
James Vick Round 1 Submission (D’Arce Choke)
Rashad Coulter Round 1 KO (Punches)
Chas Skelly Round 2 Technical Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
Dustin Poirier Round 1 TKO (Punches)
Krzysztof Jotko Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
Frankie Edgar Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
Demian Maia Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
Jessica Andrade Round 2 Submission (Guillotine Choke)
Junior Dos Santos Unanimous Decision (49-46 x2, 48-47)

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC 211: Miocic vs. Dos Santos II Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
Gadzhimurad Antigulov ($9,400)
Krzysztof Jotko ($8,700)
Chas Skelly ($8,200)
Dustin Poirier ($8,100)
Cortney Casey ($8,100)
Jessica Andrade ($7,400)

Risk: 1u

UFC 211: Miocic vs. Dos Santos II Draftkings Tournament Lineup:
Gadzhimurad Antigulov ($9,400)
Krzysztof Jotko ($8,700)
Jorge Masvidal ($8,400)
Dustin Poirier ($8,100)
Junior Dos Santos ($7,700)
Jessica Andrade ($7,400)

Risk: .2u

[Hugo de Naranja]

UFC 211: Miocic vs. Dos Santos II

Fight Pass Prelims:

Fight #1: Antigulov vs. Christensen
Antigulov+Christensen Under 1.5 (-105) 2.1u to win 2u
Antigulov Submission (+125) 1u
Antigulov Round 1 (+165) .5u

Hedge:
Christensen Round 3 (+2500) .1u

Fight #2: Barzola vs. Benitez
Barzola (+180) 1u
Barzola Scorecards = No Action (+290) .5u
Barzola ITD (+780) .25u

Hedge:
Benitez Submission (+695) .25u

Fight #3: Aguilar vs. Casey
Casey ITD (+325) .75u
Casey Round 1 (+700) .25u

Fox Sports 1 Prelims:

Fight #4: Vick vs. Polo Reyes
Vick+Polo Reyes Under 2.5 (+120) .5u
Polo Reyes Scorecards = No Action (+358) .5u
Polo Reyes KO/TKO (+710) .5u

Hedge:
Vick Submission (+215) 1u

Fight #5: Sherman vs. Coulter (DEBUT)
Coulter KO/TKO (+180) 1u
Coulter Decision (+920) .25u

Fight #6: Skelly vs. Knight
Skelly+Knight Under 2.5 (+165) 1u
Skelly ITD (+397) 1.5u
Skelly Submission (+510) .25u
Skelly/Knight Draw (+5000) .1u

Hedge:
Knight Submission (+755) .25u

Fight #7: Poirier vs. Alvarez
Poirier KO/TKO (+405) 2u
Poirier Submission (+766) .5u
Poirier/Alvarez Draw (+5500) .1u

Hedge:
Alvarez KO/TKO (+485) 1.5u

Main Card:

Fight #8: Jotko vs. Branch (DEBUT)
Jotko Decision (+135) 3u
Jotko -3.5 (+170) 1u

Hedge:
Branch Submission (+925) .5u

Fight #9: Edgar vs. Rodriguez
Edgar Decision (+142) 2u
Edgar KO/TKO (+900) .25u
Edgar Submission (+990) .25u
Edgar Round 3 (+1550) .25u

Hedge:
Rodriguez Decision (+420) .5u

Fight #10: Maia vs. Masvidal
Maia (-120) 4.8u to win 4u
Maia ITD (+317) 1u
Maia Decision (+449) .5u
Maia/Masvidal Draw (+5500) .2u

Hedge(s):
Masvidal Decision (+444) 1.5u
Masvidal Round 3 (+1250) .5u

Fight #11: Jedrzejczyk (C) vs. Andrade
Andrade (+146) 5u
Andrade Decision (+480) 1u
Andrade Round 1 (+625) 1.5u
Andrade Submission (+835) .25u
Andrade Round 2 (+850) 1u
Andrade Split/Majority Decision (+1200) .25u
Andrade/Jedrzejczyk Draw (+5500) .2u

Hedge(s):
Jedrzejczyk Unanimous Decision (+220) 1u
Jedrzejczyk Round 4 (+1550) .25u
Jedrzejczyk Submission (+1600) .25u
Jedrzejczyk Round 5 (+1950) .25u

Fight #12: Miocic (C) vs. Dos Santos
Dos Santos (-105) 4.2u to win 4u
Miocic+Dos Santos Under 1.5 (+150) 2u
Miocic+Dos Santos Goes Distance (+250) .5u
Dos Santos Round 1 (+425) .5u
Dos Santos Decision (+555) .5u
Dos Santos Unanimous Decision (+830) .5u
Dos Santos Submission (+2000) .25u
Miocic/Dos Santos Draw (+8500) .2u

Hedge(s):
Miocic Round 1 (+350) 1u
Miocic Round 2 (+675) .5u
Miocic Split/Majority Decision (+1945) .25u

Straight Parlays:
Edgar+Rodriguez Over 2.5/Cejudo+Pettis Over 2.5 (+103) 2u
Cejudo+Pettis Over 2.5/Maia (+118) 2u
Jotko/Cejudo+Pettis Over 2.5 (+130) 1u
Jotko/Poirier+Alvarez WGD (+216) 1u
Andrade/Dos Santos (+470) 1u

Prop Parlays:
Antigulov ITD/Barzola/Casey (+522) .25u
Jotko Decision/Poirier/Andrade SNA (+700) .5u
Vick Decision/Jotko Decision (+797) .25u
Masvidal KO/Miocic KO (+849) .25u
Poirier KO/Jotko -3.5 (+870) .25u
Vick Submission/Coulter/Skelly (+874) .25u
Antigulov KO/Poirier (+903) .25u
Poirier+Alvarez WGD/Jotko -3.5/Edgar SNA (+1366) .25u
Andrade ITD/Miocic Round 1 (+2183) .25u
Maia+Masvidal WGD/Andrade ITD/Dos Santos+Miocic GD (+2528) .25u
Jedrzejczyk Submission/Dos Santos Submission (+30500) .1u

Full Card Props:
Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+435) 1.25u
Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+1304) .5u
Antigulov Wins Fastest KO (+1800) .25u
Casey Wins Fastest KO (+3500) .1u
Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+4825) .25u

[SEKTAUR]

Masvidal looked like crap at the weigh-ins. looked uninterested or pissed or does he always look like that?

[Squareguy]

I don't want to read into it much, but Masvidal weighed in with full clothes, shoes, a hat and a large heavy chain. I think Maia is going to have 10-15 lbs on him tomorrow.

[brooks85]

how about that line movement tho, maia is now +money

Masvidal looked like crap at the weigh-ins. looked uninterested or pissed or does he always look like that?

that is usually his attitude.

[Thor4140]

Maia just needs to not get clipped standing.. Masvidal has upped his out put in fights lately and does bring it standing.. Masvidal is no joke and tough as nails when the fight stays standing..

Masvidal's last 7 losses have come by decision though.. Maybe Maia by decision is something to consider as well.. That Maia sub though is a real threat so I'm gun shy on taking Maia by decision.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jorge-Masvidal-7688

At +400 those odds are tempting though...

1211

Maia wins by 3 round decision

+393

Boxing Trumps everything including JU Jitz just ask Whitaker. Last time Mai fought a guy who could throw hands like a true boxer was 17 fights ago and that was Silva. He gets Mas down he wins but i think Mas is crafty enuf like Whitaker to keep this standing unless he has a brain fart and wants to see what it is like playing on the ground with Mai

[Thor4140]

For what it is worth the boys are going big on Eddie around these parts of the woods. Eddie did run a 5 K race a couple of weeks ago and won his age bracket. JUst pointing that out to show he is in shape. When i say the boys are betting big money on Eddie that is Eddie giving them the go. Unfortunately like the Dos Anjos fight, i think this is to close to call. I was on dos anjos in that one doubting the boys. The boys bet nothing but chump change when he fought Mac.

[Thor4140]

I don't want to read into it much, but Masvidal weighed in with full clothes, shoes, a hat and a large heavy chain. I think Maia is going to have 10-15 lbs on him tomorrow.

i believe the official weigh ins are in the morning. He can come in with an elephant on his back and still use the weight he was in the morning lol.

[JIBBBY]

Boxing Trumps everything including JU Jitz just ask Whitaker. Last time Mai fought a guy who could throw hands like a true boxer was 17 fights ago and that was Silva. He gets Mas down he wins but i think Mas is crafty enuf like Whitaker to keep this standing unless he has a brain fart and wants to see what it is like playing on the ground with Mai

You can be Bruce Mohammad Ali standing but if Maia takes you down you are in trouble... Maia has improved his boxing over the last 5 years to set up his single leg grabs.. His transitions are very quick and deceptive.. Maia has some of the best take downs in MMA right now.. Last I checked Masvidal can be taken down.. Even Cowboy took him down in this last fight but he popped back up..

I like Maia's chances in this scrap!!!! Maia is a leach once he gets a hold of you.. He will probable take the back of Masvidal at some point.

[Shagdogy]

For what it is worth the boys are going big on Eddie around these parts of the woods. Eddie did run a 5 K race a couple of weeks ago and won his age bracket. JUst pointing that out to show he is in shape. When i say the boys are betting big money on Eddie that is Eddie giving them the go. Unfortunately like the Dos Anjos fight, i think this is to close to call. I was on dos anjos in that one doubting the boys. The boys bet nothing but chump change when he fought Mac.

So you're saying the boys are going big on Eddie because Eddie told them to? Every fighter thinks they can crush the world going into their fights. Need something more than confidence to back it up. A lot of reasons to like Dustin here.

[Shagdogy]

You can be Bruce Mohammad Ali standing but if Maia takes you down you are in trouble... Maia has improved his boxing over the last 5 years to set up his single leg grabs.. His transitions are very quick and deceptive.. Maia has some of the best take downs in MMA right now.. Last I checked Masvidal can be taken down.. Even Cowboy took him down in this last fight but he popped back up..

I like Maia's chances in this scrap!!!! Maia is a leach once he gets a hold of you.. He will probable take the back of Masvidal at some point.

I just needed a reminder but after watching a bit more Maia (especially the Nelson fight), I'm sold. His BJJ is so tight. He is able to move, fight, transition... all without creating any space for his opponent. He can be glued to you, but at the same time moving freely all over and around you. Absolutely top notch. And even though he's 39 there is no reason to doubt his chin at all. Definite value with Maia here. LETS GO.

[bjpenn85]

I just needed a reminder but after watching a bit more Maia (especially the Nelson fight), I'm sold. His BJJ is so tight. He is able to move, fight, transition... all without creating any space for his opponent. He can be glued to you, but at the same time moving freely all over and around you. Absolutely top notch. And even though he's 39 there is no reason to doubt his chin at all. Definite value with Maia here. LETS GO.

I dont think he can submit or take down woodley. I think woodley is as close to being completely impossible to take down as one can get. Low center of gravity, wrestling crendentials, super fast and athletic. Of all the tools necessary for having good tdd, woodley has them all, + the low center of gravity. So if maia wins, good luck getting the strap.But, I do think masvidal will struggle. Its not like maia is going to be available in the open space like cerrone. He will need to defend and disengage, and while that may work, maia only needs one takedown per round, thats it. One takedown. And he always get it, so why should we not trust him?

But its a close fight, so no big bets for me here..

[JIBBBY]

I just needed a reminder but after watching a bit more Maia (especially the Nelson fight), I'm sold. His BJJ is so tight. He is able to move, fight, transition... all without creating any space for his opponent. He can be glued to you, but at the same time moving freely all over and around you. Absolutely top notch. And even though he's 39 there is no reason to doubt his chin at all. Definite value with Maia here. LETS GO.

The advantage that Maia has is he does just enough standing/boxing to gain your respect, he'll lul you to sleep abit standing then time a quick shoot and grab a single.. If that doesn't work he'll just press you against the cage and work for a double or trip...

Once Maia gets fighters down in that first round then fighters have to press standing after that because they know they are behind on points. That works right into Maia's wheel house as the take downs then come easier as the fight continues..

If Masvidal is behind on points I guarantee you he will get over aggressive standing and press, Maia will dip down and grab a leg then with ease.. Down goes Masvidal over and over again.... Like he did with Matt Brown...

Masvidal has a punchers chance though as always but that's something you don't want to bet on ever in MMA other then a hedge IMO... Then again Maia has never been knocked out cold.. His chin has held up over the years..

[RussianMike]

Boxing Trumps everything including JU Jitz just ask Whitaker. Last time Mai fought a guy who could throw hands like a true boxer was 17 fights ago and that was Silva. He gets Mas down he wins but i think Mas is crafty enuf like Whitaker to keep this standing unless he has a brain fart and wants to see what it is like playing on the ground with Mai

You may be missing something if you dont think Condit or many others faced have striking skills.

[JIBBBY]

I dont think he can submit or take down woodley. I think woodley is as close to being completely impossible to take down as one can get. Low center of gravity, wrestling crendentials, super fast and athletic. Of all the tools necessary for having good tdd, woodley has them all, + the low center of gravity. So if maia wins, good luck getting the strap.But, I do think masvidal will struggle. Its not like maia is going to be available in the open space like cerrone. He will need to defend and disengage, and while that may work, maia only needs one takedown per round, thats it. One takedown. And he always get it, so why should we not trust him?

But its a close fight, so no big bets for me here..

Maia does not want to face Woodley I agree. To fast is Woodley and he's got very good wrestling like you said.. Very hard to grab and take down is Woodley.. I don't think I will bet on Maia if he does get that title shot unfortunately... Let's get past Masvidal first though... Cross the Woodley bridge when and if it evevr happens..

I'm just hoping Maia's age doesn't catch up with him now in this fight.... 40 years old is up in MMA years.. It's really a young mans sport as Dana White always says... That's the only concern I have for Maia now.. Masvidal looked fired up fighting Cowboy and is on a roll himself now...

[bjpenn85]

Maia does not want to face Woodley I agree. To fast is Woodley and he's got very good wrestling like you said.. Very hard to grab and take down is Woodley.. I don't think I will bet on Maia if he does get that title shot unfortunately... Let's get past Masvidal first though... Cross the Woodley bridge when and if it evevr happens..



I'm just hoping Maia's age doesn't catch up with him now in this fight.... 40 years old is up in MMA years.. It's really a young mans sport as Dana White always says... That's the only concern I have for Maia now.. Masvidal looked fired up fighting Cowboy and is on a roll himself now...

Yep. Masvidal can get as fired up as he wants, when the takedown attempt comes he needs to defend as everybody else. But late 2.round 3.round? That can be PRETTTY interesting...

[Shagdogy]

Man... I'm gonna be on Poirier, probably a little less than I originally thought. But watching his interviews, he seems like a real good dude. Donating all of his purse to local charity. Moved back to LA so his daughter grows up near family. Says everything right. Definitely pulling for him tonight regardless of my bet.

[JIBBBY]

Man... I'm gonna be on Poirier, probably a little less than I originally thought. But watching his interviews, he seems like a real good dude. Donating all of his purse to local charity. Moved back to LA so his daughter grows up near family. Says everything right. Definitely pulling for him tonight regardless of my bet.

I'm on DP straight as well.. Let's get this Shag!!! I think DP is straight up better then Eddie standing and maybe on the ground too.. This fight probably stays standing the entire time.. Eddie I think is gonna have to knock out DP to win this fight...

DP is still slightly favored as he should be...

UFC 211 - Lightweight 3 rounds - American Airlines Center - Dallas, Texas - FX

Sat 5/13		1501 Dustin Poirier		-130	o1½ -240
9:30PM		1502 Eddie Alvarez		+110	u1½ +200

FX



Eddie
Alvarez
"The Underground King"
vs
Dustin
Poirier
"The Diamond"

UNITED STATES
Country
UNITED STATES

28-5-0
Record
21-5-0

61%
KO/TKO
48%

18%
SUB
29%

21%
DEC
24%

69 in
Height
69 in

155 lbs
Weight
155 lbs

69 in
Reach
72 in

40 in
Leg Reach
40 in

[Hugo de Naranja]

Man... I'm gonna be on Poirier, probably a little less than I originally thought. But watching his interviews, he seems like a real good dude. Donating all of his purse to local charity. Moved back to LA so his daughter grows up near family. Says everything right. Definitely pulling for him tonight regardless of my bet.

I think he's donating his fight kit auction proceeds to charity but not his fight purse. Regardless he's a super nice guy. I met him up in the stands at the Alvarez vs. Dos Anjos fight and had a nice conversation with him for about 10 minutes. Very down to earth and likable.

[Shagdogy]

Jotko 3u, -161
Benitez 3u, -145
Maia 2u, -105
Adrade 2u, +150
Poirier 2u, -140
Edgar 1u, -135
JDS 1u, +121

Don't love all the lines I got but feel good about the plays. Should be a great card and looks like we will all be rooting together on a bunch.

Not including it here but Vick/Reyes draw might be a good stab. Reyes can hang in there, but I think Vick probably wins. Vick also has an issue with eye pokes and could see a point deduction for his fingers under new rules. Worth a tiny bit.

[Pinoy-T-X]

Playing this night conservatively, just seems like trap is written all over it. Going with

Masdival, Poirier and Knight.

thats it, nothing else. Just going to enjoy the rest of the night.
BOL to all you degens tonight.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Jotko 3u, -161
Benitez 3u, -145
Maia 2u, -105
Adrade 2u, +150
Poirier 2u, -140
Edgar 1u, -135
JDS 1u, +121

Don't love all the lines I got but feel good about the plays. Should be a great card and looks like we will all be rooting together on a bunch.

Not including it here but Vick/Reyes draw might be a good stab. Reyes can hang in there, but I think Vick probably wins. Vick also has an issue with eye pokes and could see a point deduction for his fingers under new rules. Worth a tiny bit.

With you on everyone but Benitez. Let's get this money brother!

[Hugo de Naranja]

Jotko 3u, -161
Benitez 3u, -145
Maia 2u, -105
Adrade 2u, +150
Poirier 2u, -140
Edgar 1u, -135
JDS 1u, +121

Don't love all the lines I got but feel good about the plays. Should be a great card and looks like we will all be rooting together on a bunch.

Not including it here but Vick/Reyes draw might be a good stab. Reyes can hang in there, but I think Vick probably wins. Vick also has an issue with eye pokes and could see a point deduction for his fingers under new rules. Worth a tiny bit.

Have a weird feeling that we might get a draw today. Also Texas

[PhoKing]

of all the fights tonight, what's the most likely fight to go to a decision? casey/aguilar?

[blumpkin]

I like Sherman as bad as he is. Coulter is a regional fighter brought in on short notice. Sherman younger, bigger and more athletic. Coulture looks like he should be a light heavy weight. As long as Sherman can weather the first round, he should wear him down. -115 me like