UFC 210: Cormier vs. Johnson 2 (April 08, 2017)

Unwritten Law · 03-22-17, 02:49 PM

Rumble and Mousasi.

UncleChael · 03-22-17, 06:47 PM

"Big D.C" Daniel Cormier for me.

JIBBBY · 03-22-17, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by UncleChael

"Big D.C" Daniel Cormier for me.

Agreed, DC man handled Rumble the first time and took his best punch.. I don't see things changing for Rumble in the rematch.. He'll get put on his back and ground and pounded out eventually..

Biggest question is will DC stay healthy and not get injured in these next 2 weeks leading up?

firekillex · 03-23-17, 12:41 AM

D.C and weidman

easy money

brooks85 · 03-23-17, 07:27 AM

the wait is painful

PaperTrail07 · 03-23-17, 10:53 AM

Sat 4/8

1101 Gegard Mousasi

-120

o2½ -180

PaperTrail07 · 03-23-17, 10:54 AM

Mous with 100X the skills....speed....Weidman should be +250...

Originally posted by firekillex

D.C and weidman

easy money

PaperTrail07 · 03-23-17, 10:54 AM

UFC 210: Gegard Mousasi promises to ‘light up’ a ‘cocky’ Chris Weidman in Buffalo

JIBBBY · 03-23-17, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Sat 4/8

1101 Gegard Mousasi

-120

o2½ -180

Liking Mousasi as well. Weidman washed up..A has been... Mousasi is going to knock him out standing..

PaperTrail07 · 03-23-17, 11:30 AM

Agree Was never impressed with Weidman...

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Liking Mousasi as well. Weidman washed up..A has been... Mousasi is going to knock him out standing..

JIBBBY · 03-23-17, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by PaperTrail07

Agree Was never impressed with Weidman...

Yep, CW's inactivity over the last few years is his biggest problem IMO.. The guy fights once a year if lucky.. Coming off 2 straight losses as well..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chris-Weidman-42804

Mousasi very active... Fights 3 times a year.. On a 4 fight win streak... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Gegard-Mousasi-7466

firekillex · 03-23-17, 11:58 AM

The 4 guys mousasi has beaten lately are all trash .. take it with a grain of salt
weidman has only lost to the top 3 elite guys and had moments in both
weidman a hasbin is lack of mma knowledge guys a top 5 185er in the planet and lost by one mistake to the next title challenger where he was about to win a decision but got caught by a knee ... then lost to imo the best 185er on the planet at the time Luke rockhold
weidman is a winner and he's probably itching for a win here I like the odds and I think he gets a close decision here by using his wrestling , mousasi has been stifled before with the same gameplan King Mo , and weidman is a much better mixed martial artist then him imo

PaperTrail07 · 03-23-17, 12:01 PM

Very True....But i think King MO has a quicker takedown than weidman

Originally posted by firekillex

The 4 guys mousasi has beaten lately are all trash .. take it with a grain of salt
weidman has only lost to the top 3 elite guys and had moments in both
weidman a hasbin is lack of mma knowledge guys a top 5 185er in the planet and lost by one mistake to the next title challenger where he was about to win a decision but got caught by a knee ... then lost to imo the best 185er on the planet at the time Luke rockhold
weidman is a winner and he's probably itching for a win here I like the odds and I think he gets a close decision here by using his wrestling , mousasi has been stifled before with the same gameplan King Mo , and weidman is a much better mixed martial artist then him imo

firekillex · 03-23-17, 12:34 PM

King mo is a better straight up wrestler, but weidman is better for mma imo since he can actually strike and threaten other techniques then shoot a takedown ... we'll see , I think weidman will win 2/3 rounds from mixing up his takedowns and grinding mousasi , can't see him being stupid after making that mistake against Yoel And mousasi isn't a power striker he's more technique and accumulation of shots ... should be a great scrap but I think the bigger weidman will have the edge here

firekillex · 03-23-17, 12:37 PM

Mousasi is good don't get me wrong but this style matchup is bad for him
who's his best win in the UFC ? Thales leites I'd say who's not top 5
hes lost to every elite guy he's fought in the UFC machida and jacare

Hugo de Naranja · 03-23-17, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

King mo is a better straight up wrestler, but weidman is better for mma imo since he can actually strike and threaten other techniques then shoot a takedown ... we'll see , I think weidman will win 2/3 rounds from mixing up his takedowns and grinding mousasi , can't see him being stupid after making that mistake against Yoel And mousasi isn't a power striker he's more technique and accumulation of shots ... should be a great scrap but I think the bigger weidman will have the edge here

New York judging could be in play as well.

JIBBBY · 03-23-17, 01:20 PM

Weidman does have a chance if he uses his wrestling, but Weidman used his wrestling against Luke Rockhold and it was only effective for one round, he gassed got mounted, his will was broken.. I see CW as a broken fighter today... He's been to injury prone and inactive as well. His knees are shot... Lost the eye of the tiger..

All in on Mousasi as he's peaking right now, I think he'll keep the fight standing long enough to knock Weidman out late in the fight..

Going off..

Broken fighter syndrome..

PaperTrail07 · 03-23-17, 01:34 PM

Yeah he could possibly grind out a NY decision(don't see him doing much damage after landing the TD)....but otherwise it would be nothing but
a time stall round win IMO...

Enkhbat · 03-24-17, 09:36 AM

When will the odds be available for all the matchups?

JIBBBY · 03-24-17, 11:25 AM

Does Charles Oliveira have a chance at those odds? Will Brooks is he all that? Bellator stand out but hasn't fought anyone as good as Do Bronx yet IMO... Hmmmm? http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Will-Brooks-76241

Do Bronx did get worked over in his last two fights but they were against solid fighters.. I think it's do or die for Do Bronx now if he wants to stay in the UFC anyways.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Charles-Oliveira-30300

UFC 210 - Lightweight 3 rounds - KeyBank Center - Buffalo, New York - PPV


Sat 4/8	1201 Charles Oliveira	+270	o2½ -150
10:30PM	1202 Will Brooks	-390	u2½ +110

Sanity Check · 03-24-17, 11:42 AM

Tomorrow.

Might skip it.

firekillex · 03-24-17, 12:35 PM

Olivera at +270 could be worth a dart toss probably take ITD prop if you like him thou doubt he can get a decision here

he really doesn't like being bullied or tested and will brooks is going to do exactly that imo, he's going to might likely grind him out and rag doll him. Olivera is always dangerous though and he may threaten with some sub attempts.. this fights a no play for me though or possibly small brooks decision or olivera ITD if you gotta play it

JIBBBY · 03-24-17, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by firekillex

Olivera at +270 could be worth a dart toss probably take ITD prop if you like him thou doubt he can get a decision here

he really doesn't like being bullied or tested and will brooks is going to do exactly that imo, he's going to might likely grind him out and rag doll him. Olivera is always dangerous though and he may threaten with some sub attempts.. this fights a no play for me though or possibly small brooks decision or olivera ITD if you gotta play it

Yep thinking of throwing a dart at the Oli by sub prop myself.. This will be a ground battle or clinch affair most likely as WB will press like you said... Not sure this one goes to decision though, Do Bronx has been stopped in his last 2 fights and if Will presses and breaks him he could finish..

JIBBBY · 03-24-17, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

Tomorrow.

Might skip it.

Pass... Won't even watch...

PaperTrail07 · 03-24-17, 02:57 PM

Worth a dart all day IMO...

Originally posted by firekillex

Olivera at +270 could be worth a dart toss probably take ITD prop if you like him thou doubt he can get a decision here

he really doesn't like being bullied or tested and will brooks is going to do exactly that imo, he's going to might likely grind him out and rag doll him. Olivera is always dangerous though and he may threaten with some sub attempts.. this fights a no play for me though or possibly small brooks decision or olivera ITD if you gotta play it

PaperTrail07 · 03-24-17, 02:59 PM

CO's back against the wall as well after dropping 2...

Kermit · 03-25-17, 09:33 AM

Moose should be a bigger favorite.

JIBBBY · 03-25-17, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

Moose should be a bigger favorite.

Agreed, Mousasi by KO or ITD for me.. His last 3 fight wins were by KO.. Mousasi is rolling right now.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Gegard-Mousasi-7466

Beelzebubzy · 03-27-17, 08:09 PM

Rumble young man rumble

RussianMike · 03-28-17, 04:53 AM

Parlay

I'm playing both sides of Johnson/DC. In Vegas, don't do online so can't take advantage of props like you guys do, but hitting DC with the over 1.5 and Johnson with the under. Seem like reasonable plays. Right?

Hugo de Naranja · 03-28-17, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by RussianMike

I'm playing both sides of Johnson/DC. In Vegas, don't do online so can't take advantage of props like you guys do, but hitting DC with the over 1.5 and Johnson with the under. Seem like reasonable plays. Right?

Yup. For Cormier backers I think Over 1.5 (-140) is a much better spot than Cormier ML (-110).

Fight4m · 03-28-17, 09:44 AM

The over is the play here,it looks like a gift for me..

PaperTrail07 · 03-28-17, 11:29 AM

Have to Agree....

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Yup. For Cormier backers I think Over 1.5 (-140) is a much better spot than Cormier ML (-110).

JIBBBY · 03-28-17, 05:30 PM

^^ Do you guys think Rumble will pace himself and box this go around? He got rolled last time he fought DC.. Blew his wad quickly, got taken down and pounded out.. That O/U is a dice roll I think...

Am leaning on the over as well though as both will pace themselves and probably fight not to lose... Rumble especially..

These 2 gifs sum up the 1st fight -

I think you gotta go with the superior wrestler in this one again... In on DC....