UFC 207: Nunes vs Rousey (December 30, 2016)

[kingdom]

Rousey is done.... Too big a step to take coming back and facing Nunes..

Gotta think Nunes just blasted thru Meisha Tate, and Meisha called it and said Nunes would win on the pre fight show.. Cup cake really convinced me Nunes would win.. She would know as she fought them both..

Meisha thank you for convincing me to load up..... I should send her a gift basket or something..

Love to give miesha more than a gift basket. her body is stacked

[Kermit]

this girl has destructed everyone in the last two years. don't discredit her. they were both champions and veterans she absolutely destroyed.

I am not discrediting her at all. I was trying to prove a point that she was just too much for these girls.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Shouldn't have switched from my early play on Nunes. She looked phenomenal out there. Congrats to Nunes and Garbrandt backers.

[Sykes]

Ronda will retire after tonight. She didn't know what to do in this fight, no defense, no movement. She lost her confident after losing to Holly Holm

Dude have you seen her coach?. Explains everything.

[JIBBBY]

Remember when I said that I would probably lose those free play bet points on the card tonight?

<<< I didn't.

I do remember Kermy.. .Good job. That last fight boosted my bet points as well.. Over 3600 bet points myself now after that..

[JIBBBY]

Love to give miesha more than a gift basket. her body is stacked

I agree, I think Cup Cake has some curves... I wood...

[jtoler]

Holly took her spirit, seen this in boxing many times. Fighters arnt the same, seen Hopkins take quite a few in his day. What does Ronda do now, she cant act, she should have started with much lesser fighters to build her confidence back up, but she's 29 so maybe this was the plan all along, win and fight till she loses and retire or simply lose and retire, either way cashing out.

[GunShard]

I would love to know what Rousey's gameplan was tonight.

When I compare this fight to other UFC fights:

Rousey is similar but has a lower fight IQ than heavyweight fighter Velasquez.
When Velasquez lost to Dos Santos because he only used striking and no wrestling in that fight. Dos Santos is a better striker.
Velasquez used his ground game in the 2nd and 3rd fight against Dos Santos and won.

Rousey only used striking against Holm and Nunes, which made Rousey lose.
Both Holm and Nunes are better strikers than Rousey. Rousey should avoid striking and use her judo.
Rousey is like Velasquez, their ground game are their main weapons.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Fuk gotta chase now on Rizin Amir Aliakbari +150

[firekillex]

When I compare this fight to other UFC fights:

Rousey is similar but has a lower fight IQ than heavyweight fighter Velasquez.
When Velasquez lost to Dos Santos because he only used striking and no wrestling in that fight. Dos Santos is a better striker.
Velasquez used his ground game in the 2nd and 3rd fight against Dos Santos and won.

Rousey only used striking against Holm and Nunes, which made Rousey lose.
Both Holm and Nunes are better strikers than Rousey. Rousey should avoid striking and use her judo.
Rousey is like Velasquez, their ground game are their main weapons.

One of of the worst comparisons I've ever read

[GunShard]

Cash it.

Congrats on your bet.

[jtoler]

I am not discrediting her at all. I was trying to prove a point that she was just too much for these girls.

She gases rather quick though, starts fast, if you can withstand it you have a good chance. She has long arms, prob take these chicks a minute to get their distance right, but Ronda is just dumb after she gets hit, fight or flight sets in motion and she goes into total shock mode it seems. Seems before Holly wacked her she wasnt used to those waters and when faced with it didnt know what to do.

[jimmy007oc]

I was close to put 250$ ea on Cruz and Ronda. But i was chicken out, press cancel last min before the fight. Didn't feel good about both fighters.

[GunShard]

One of of the worst comparisons I've ever read

Well I'm not good at explaining lol.
Just saying that if an MMA fighter is good at striking and bad at grappling, use your striking.
If an MMA fighter is good at grappling and bad at striking, use your grappling.
I should of kept my explanation this simple instead.

[jtoler]

When I compare this fight to other UFC fights:

Rousey is similar but has a lower fight IQ than heavyweight fighter Velasquez.
When Velasquez lost to Dos Santos because he only used striking and no wrestling in that fight. Dos Santos is a better striker.
Velasquez used his ground game in the 2nd and 3rd fight against Dos Santos and won.

Rousey only used striking against Holm and Nunes, which made Rousey lose.
Both Holm and Nunes are better strikers than Rousey. Rousey should avoid striking and use her judo.
Rousey is like Velasquez, their ground game are their main weapons.

Dont know who Velasquez is but like in boxing, you dont hook with a hooker, Ronda trying to stand and strike with a striker. No circling, no distance just standing right in front of her, only a matter of time, was hoping she'd get her to the ground at least once.

[Kermit]

When I compare this fight to other UFC fights:

Rousey is similar but has a lower fight IQ than heavyweight fighter Velasquez.
When Velasquez lost to Dos Santos because he only used striking and no wrestling in that fight. Dos Santos is a better striker.
Velasquez used his ground game in the 2nd and 3rd fight against Dos Santos and won.

Rousey only used striking against Holm and Nunes, which made Rousey lose.
Both Holm and Nunes are better strikers than Rousey. Rousey should avoid striking and use her judo.
Rousey is like Velasquez, their ground game are their main weapons.

Most of Cain's wins were in the first round. He is a striker, Ronda is not.

[JIBBBY]

Fuk gotta chase now on Rizin Amir Aliakbari +150

Locky chill.. Don't try to make it all back on that garbage.. We got WSOF tomorrow night and there are some good fights to make some money on IMO... Jake Shields, Jared Rosholt and Paul Bradley all should win.. Parlay up Gaethje and Branch too..

WSOF 34 - Lightweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC

Sat 12/31		5001 Luiz Firmino		+335	o1½ -150
5:30PM		5002 Justin Gaethje		-420	u1½ +120
WSOF 34 - Lightweight 3 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
Sat 12/31		5101 Paul Bradley		+140	o2½ -240
5:00PM		5102 Yushin Okami		-160	u2½ +180
WSOF 34 - Welterweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
Sat 12/31		5201 Jon Fitch		+130	o3½ -215
4:30PM		5202 Jake Shields		-150	u3½ +170
WSOF 34 - Bantamweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBC
Sat 12/31		5301 Josenaldo Silva		+500	o1½ -205
4:00PM		5302 Marlon Moraes		-700	u1½ +165
WSOF 34 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York City, New York, United States - NBCSN
Sat 12/31		5401 Caio Alencar		+235	o1½ -175
3:30PM		5402 Jared Rosholt		-275	u1½ +145
WSOF 34 - Middleweight 5 rounds - Madison Square Garden Theater - New York - NBCSN
Sat 12/31		5501 Louis Taylor		+325	o1½ -210
3:00PM		5502 David Branch		-400	u1½ +168

[GunShard]

Most of Cain's wins were in the first round. He is a striker, Ronda is not.

You are correct, Rousey is worst at striking than I previously thought.

[firekillex]

Not bashing I understand the point, but Cain is actually an elite boxer and completely outstruck JDS in the 2nd and 3rd fight while mixing in takedowns his bread and butter is wrestling but he's a great boxer with elite cardio... the woman's division is just extremely new and this stuff happens , Ronda actually has decent punching speed and power she just doesn't have the greatest defense or movement, she got stung once and curled into a ball ... Nunes is a great fighter all around , an all around talent beats a 1-2 trick pony evertyime with the judo and one submission .... I hope Nunes can maul Pena next to shut her the fck up

[jtoler]

It almost seems as if Ronda watches no film. You guys that follow the sport and know Nunes surely would have approached her and had better tactics surely.

[GunShard]

Not bashing I understand the point, but Cain is actually an elite boxer and completely outstruck JDS in the 2nd and 3rd fight while mixing in takedowns his bread and butter is wrestling but he's a great boxer with elite cardio... the woman's division is just extremely new and this stuff happens , Ronda actually has decent punching speed and power she just doesn't have the greatest defense or movement, she got stung once and curled into a ball ... Nunes is a great fighter all around , an all around talent beats a 1-2 trick pony evertyime with the judo and one submission .... I hope Nunes can maul Pena next to shut her the fck up

Good points. Nunes is definitely a well rounded fighter. It's better to bet money on well rounded fighters than one dimensional fighters.

[firekillex]

It almost seems as if Ronda watches no film. You guys that follow the sport and know Nunes surely would have approached her and had better tactics surely.

A lot of fighters don't watch any film tbh, most want to implement their gameplan not be dictating the fight by what the opponent is gonna do.. they let the coach watch the film and come up with the appropriate gameplan... said it for a long time now edmon is the worst coach in mma and this didn't surprise me. Guys an absolute joke and shouldn't be called a head coach

[Kermit]

I am more shocked over Cody winning by decision than Rousey getting her clock cleaned.

[firekillex]

Good points. Nunes is definitely a well rounded fighter. It's better to bet money on well rounded fighters than one dimensional fighters.

I still thought it was a coin flip imo, i just took Nunes because I got it at +190 months ago... rousey even with the 2 tricks had so much momentum at one point you gotta factor that as well.. woman's division is hard to call , but Nunes is a legit beast , her toughest competition at 35 is gonna be cat zingano imo , if cat gets mentally prepared and back to being herself that fight would be absolute fireworks ( cat won the first scrap)

[Kermit]

A lot of fighters don't watch any film tbh, most want to implement their gameplan not be dictating the fight by what the opponent is gonna do.. they let the coach watch the film and come up with the appropriate gameplan... said it for a long time now edmon is the worst coach in mma and this didn't surprise me. Guys an absolute joke and shouldn't be called a head coach

Edmund said he can beat Aldo. She should have dropped that bum after she lost to Holly. Her own mother even said that.

Ronda's problem is that she is surrounded by too many Yes-Men telling her how great that she is.

[kingdom]

It almost seems as if Ronda watches no film. You guys that follow the sport and know Nunes surely would have approached her and had better tactics surely.

every fighter thinks it won't happen to them. human nature. cruz talked about garbrandt's power for months. but what did he do? got in a fist fight with him. a great fighter doesn't respect another's power until they feel it. tyson's famous quote: they all have a plan till u hit him in the mouth. rings true forever.

[mdunlap3]

It almost seems as if Ronda watches no film. You guys that follow the sport and know Nunes surely would have approached her and had better tactics surely.

Ronda was just checked out. Plain and simple. Wanted the loot, didn't want to win, wants to be done.

[DwightShrute]

Another victim of 2016........the career of Ronda Rousey

[kingdom]

I am more shocked over Cody winning by decision than Rousey getting her clock cleaned.

not just winning, but dominated the cage. that was shocking. he was never out of control or command. i completely thought the skill level would dominate the other way.

[Kermit]

[mdunlap3]

not just winning, but dominated the cage. that was shocking. he was never out of control or command. i completely thought the skill level would dominate the other way.

It feels like such a huge upset to me too, but Cody really wasn't that big of a dog relatively speaking.

[JIBBBY]

Good points. Nunes is definitely a well rounded fighter. It's better to bet money on well rounded fighters than one dimensional fighters.

That's what I thought with DOM.. Turned out Cody really was the runner and counter striker in that fight.. Dom needs to go back and work his game after that loss... Looking for a rematch in that one..

[Git Lo]

Edmund said he can beat Aldo. She should have dropped that bum after she lost to Holly. Her own mother even said that.

Ronda's problem is that she is surrounded by too many Yes-Men telling her how great that she is.

seriously, she did all her rituals and everything and was prepared to fight as if it was everyone before Holly. Wrong! Wrong! (charlie murphy voice) this bish took her lightly and was trying to go through nunez straight punches and got owned, rocked, killed! embarrassing!

[GunShard]

That's what I thought with DOM.. Turned out Cody really was the runner and counter striker in that fight.. Dom needs to go back and work his game after that loss... Looking for a rematch in that one..

It's interesting that Cruz, Gargrandt and Dillashaw all have similar footwork and counter striking now. It used to be only Cruz using these skills. Fighters are adapting to Cruz.

[JIBBBY]

Miesha called both TJ and Nunes tonight.. I hope she remains a commentator.. She knows her MMA picks..

Watching the post fight show now on Fox1... Oh and Poor Nunes needs to put on some make up or something to cover up that acne.. Can see why she is a muff diving these days.. . Miesha looking good on the panel on the flip..

Cody looks beat up on the panel.. Dom busted his face up a bit..