UFC FIGHT NIGHT 98: RDA vs FERGUSON (NOV 5)

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  • GunShard
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-05-10
    • 10028

    #281
    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
    Who's on your team?
    Made exactly rank 100 with 487 points.
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    • firekillex
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-18-13
      • 6420

      #282
      god damn ferguson is a beast... hes like the terminator in there just never stops walking forward with crazy techniques and head movement, thought the RDA leg kicks would stiffle his movement but rda did stick with them after winning round 1 i gave the other 4 rounds to fergy , i see him being a big problem for khabib or either mcrgegor / eddie tbh ... give this man his title shot !! happy he came through been a fighter ive been watching a ton since his ultimate fighter run and breaking that dudes jaw right after, hes come a long way ... best cardio and heart hes a certified warrior ... wonder if RDAs change of camps or making coming off roids hindered him but he still looked solid in the cardio department and got hit with some solid shots without wilting ... big fight and a ton of talent in the cage 2 of the best 55ers in the world . cheers to another profitable night ( barely )
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      • UncleChael
        SBR MVP
        • 10-30-13
        • 3979

        #283
        El Cucuy baby! Hes been the champ since he walked thru hell with Edson. His 10th win straight should be for the title, no doubt
        Last edited by UncleChael; 11-06-16, 01:00 AM.
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        • Hugo de Naranja
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-14-16
          • 14140

          #284
          UFC FN 98: Dos Anjos vs. Ferguson Picks:
          Enrique Barzola Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
          Marco Polo Reyes Round 2 KO
          Sam Alvey Round 2 TKO
          Henry Briones Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
          Erick Montano Round 2 Submission
          Marco Beltran Unanimous Decision (30-27, 29-28 x2)
          Erik Perez Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
          Alexa Grasso Round 3 TKO
          Rashid Magomedov Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
          Martin Bravo Split Decision (29-28 x2, 28-29)
          Charles Oliveira Round 2 Submission
          Diego Sanchez Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
          Rafael Dos Anjos Unanimous Decision (49-46 x2, 48-47)
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          • Hugo de Naranja
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-14-16
            • 14140

            #285
            UFC FN 98: Dos Anjos vs. Ferguson Draftkings Double Up Lineup:
            Enrique Barzola ($9,500) 104 Points
            Sam Alvey ($9,100) 61.5 Points
            Erik Perez ($8,700) 89 Points
            Marco Beltran ($7,700) 1.5 Points
            Henry Briones ($7,600) 33.5 Points
            Diego Sanchez ($7,200) 59 Points

            Risk: 1u
            Total Points: 348.5
            Result: Did Not Cash

            UFC FN 98: Dos Anjos vs. Ferguson Draftkings Tournament Lineup:
            Alexa Grasso ($9,300) 67.5 Points
            Sam Alvey ($9,100) 61.5 Points
            Marco Polo Reyes ($8,900) 55 Points
            Charles Oliveira ($8,100) 19.5 Points
            Erick Montano ($7,400) 1.5 Points
            Diego Sanchez ($7,200) 59 Points

            Risk: .2u
            Total Points: 264
            Result: Did Not Cash
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83693

              #286
              El Cucuy!!! Striking clinic for 5.. RDA is beatable... ...
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              • Hugo de Naranja
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 04-14-16
                • 14140

                #287
                All credit to Ferguson. He fought a superb fight here
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                • Hugo de Naranja
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 04-14-16
                  • 14140

                  #288
                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                  El Cucuy!!! Striking clinic for 5.. RDA is beatable... ...
                  Good call Jibs. I whiffed on the Main Event so this was an event loss for me. On to the next
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                  • Hugo de Naranja
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-14-16
                    • 14140

                    #289
                    UFC Fight Night 98: Dos Anjos vs. Ferguson

                    Fight #1: Barzola vs. Avila:
                    Barzola Decision (-114) +1u

                    Result: Enrique Barzola Unanimous Decision
                    Fight: +1u
                    Card: +1u

                    Fight #2: Polo Reyes vs. Novelli:
                    Polo Reyes Round 3 (+950) -.25u

                    Added:
                    Polo Reyes Round 2 (+550) -.75u

                    Result: Polo Reyes Split Decision
                    Fight: -1u
                    Card: +0u

                    Fight #3: Alvey vs. Nicholson:
                    Alvey Round 2 (+425) -2u
                    Alvey Decision (+461) +4.61u
                    Alvey Decision (+529) +2.645u
                    Alvey Round 3 (+1000) -1u

                    Hedge(s):
                    Nicholson Scorecards = No Action (+210) +0u
                    Nicholson KO/TKO (+410) -1u

                    Result: Sam Alvey Unanimous Decision
                    Fight: +3.255u
                    Card: +3.255u

                    Fight #4: Briones vs. Silva de Andrade
                    Briones (+145) -1u
                    Briones Round 3 (+1975) -.25u

                    Result: Douglas Silva de Andrade Round 3 KO
                    Fight: -1.25u
                    Card: +2.005u

                    Fight #5: Griffin vs. Montano:
                    Montano Submission (+575) -.5u
                    Montano Round 2 (+975) -.25u
                    Montano Round 3 (+1825) -.25u

                    Hedge:
                    Griffin Submission (+1080) -.25u

                    Result: Max Griffin Round 1 TKO
                    Fight: -1.25u
                    Card: +.755u

                    Fight #6: Beltran vs. Soto:
                    Beltran (+105) -1u
                    Beltran (+135) -1u
                    Beltran Decision (+286) -.5u
                    Beltran Submission (+1200) -.25u

                    Hedge:
                    Soto Round 3 (+1075) -.5u

                    Result: Joe Soto Round 1 Submission
                    Fight: -3.25u
                    Card: -2.495u

                    Fight #7: Perez vs. Arantes:
                    Arantes Scorecards = No Action (+176) +0u
                    Arantes Submission (+1005) -.5u

                    Hedge(s):
                    Perez -3.5 (+140) -1u
                    Perez Decision (+147) +1.47u

                    Result: Erik Perez Split Decision
                    Fight: -.03u
                    Card: -2.525u

                    Fight #8: Grasso (DEBUT) vs. Clark:
                    Grasso KO/TKO (+475) -.5u
                    Grasso Round 3 (+1150) -.25u

                    Result: Alexa Grasso Unanimous Decision
                    Fight: -.75u
                    Card: -3.275u

                    Fight #9: Magomedov vs. Dariush:
                    Dariush KO/TKO (+755) -.5u

                    Added:
                    Magomedov Decision (+175) -1u
                    Magomedov KO/TKO (+690) -.25u
                    Magomedov Round 3 (+1850) -.25u

                    Result: Dariush Unanimous Decision
                    Fight: -2u
                    Card: -5.275u

                    Fight #10: Bravo vs. Puelles:
                    No Bet

                    Result: Bravo Round 2 TKO

                    Fight #11: Lamas vs. Oliveira:
                    Oliveira Submission (+325) -1.5u

                    Hedge(s):
                    Lamas KO/TKO (+460) -.5u
                    Lamas Round 1 (+575) -.5u

                    Added:
                    Lamas ITD (+390) +1.95u

                    Result: Ricardo Lamas Round 2 Submission
                    Fight: -.55u
                    Card: -5.825u

                    Fight #12: Held (DEBUT) vs. Sanchez:
                    Sanchez (+225) +2.25u
                    Sanchez Decision (+350) +3.5u
                    Sanchez Round 3 (+2550) -.125u

                    Hedge:
                    Held Round 1 (+375) -.5u

                    Added:
                    Sanchez Scorecards = No Action (+425) +0u

                    Result: Diego Sanchez Unanimous Decision
                    Fight: +5.125u
                    Card: -.7u

                    Fight #13: Dos Anjos vs. Ferguson:
                    Dos Anjos (-120) -4.8u
                    Dos Anjos/Ferguson Under 3.5 Rounds (+130) -3u
                    Dos Anjos -5.5 (+150) -1u
                    Dos Anjos -5.5 (+155) -1u
                    Dos Anjos Decision (+235) -1u
                    Dos Anjos Unanimous Decision (+370) -.5u
                    Dos Anjos KO/TKO (+393) -1u
                    Dos Anjos Round 1 (+850) -.5u
                    Dos Anjos/Ferguson Draw (+6500) -.25u

                    Hedge(s):
                    Ferguson Scorecards = No Action (+112) +0u
                    Ferguson Submission (+675) -1.5u
                    Ferguson Round 1 (+900) -.5u
                    Ferguson Round 2 (+1100) -.5u
                    Ferguson Decision (+755) +3.775u
                    Ferguson Split/Majority Decision (+970) -.5u
                    Ferguson Split/Majority Decision (+1545) -.5u

                    Added:
                    Dos Anjos Unanimous Decision (+315) -.5u

                    Result: Ferguson Unanimous Decision
                    Fight: -13.275u
                    Card: -13.975u

                    Prop Parlays:
                    Grasso -3.5/Oliveira+Lamas Won’t Go Distance (+163) +1.63u
                    Barzola-3.5/Polo Reyes -3.5/Alvey -3.5 (+325) -.5u
                    Barzola Decision/Briones Decision/Perez Decision (+1682) -.25u
                    Briones Decision/Perez Decision/Magomedov Decision (+2053) -.25u
                    Polo Reyes/Grasso -3.5/Magomedov/Oliveira+Lamas WGD/Sanchez+Held GD/Dos Anjos+Ferguson WGD (+2149) -.25u
                    Alvey Round 2/Held Round 1 (+2750) -.25u
                    Alvey Decision/Dos Anjos Round 1 (+5229) -.125u
                    Nicholson Round 1/Dos Anjos Round 1 (+6313) -.125u
                    Results: See Above
                    Fights: -.12u
                    Card: -14.095u

                    Full Card Props:
                    Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+238) +1.19u
                    Over 8.5 Fights Go Distance (+574) -.5u
                    Over 9.5 Fights Go Distance (+1585) -.25u
                    Over 10.5 Fights Go Distance (+6225) -.25u
                    Result: 8 Decisions
                    Fight: +.19u
                    Card: -13.905u

                    Live Betting:
                    Arantes (+500) -.5u
                    Lamas (+220) +1.1u
                    Ferguson (+205) +2.05u
                    Results: Arantes loses, Lamas wins, Ferguson wins
                    Fights: +2.65u
                    Final Card Result = -11.255u
                    Last edited by Hugo de Naranja; 11-06-16, 01:12 AM.
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                    • Thrilla
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-10-15
                      • 13809

                      #290
                      Good job Hugo how did you see it so early live + 205? I waited until + 105 when I was more confident to pull the trigger. Ferguson was finding his range and rhytm in R2....I flowed with it. It never got higher then + 105. Still good timing.
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83693

                        #291
                        Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                        Good call Jibs. I whiffed on the Main Event so this was an event loss for me. On to the next
                        It happens Hugo I thought you were doing well with this event....

                        I had a good chunk of the main event bet on Fergy ITD and that missed.. The meat play for me was El Cucuy straight though since it was at plus odds and that bet was available on all my books.. So it worked out... The Diego Sanchez bets went the same.. ITD missed but the bigger Diego straight play hit at +odds on every book......

                        I'll post my results tomorrow during the football games but I can already see I did pretty good with this event overall.. I hit that $500 winning prop early on in fight #4 and never looked back from there the rest of the night.. It's fun when it goes like that...


                        When betting the entire card and all the fights like I do all you really need is one good prop hit and that can basically offset 4 or 5 other fight losses in other fights.. Hard to lose an event when that happens anyways.. Love those props
                        Last edited by JIBBBY; 11-06-16, 01:32 AM.
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                        • GunShard
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                          • 03-05-10
                          • 10028

                          #292
                          Ferguson should fight the winner of the Alvarez vs McGregor fight.
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                          • JIBBBY
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-10-09
                            • 83693

                            #293
                            Well here is how my night played out in a nut shell... I did post all of these bets pending early on in the thread or just before the fights started so I figured I'll kiss and tell now..

                            After fight #4 I heated up and never looked back..


                            Fight #1 - Win - (Running total + $114.30)

                            $120.00 $114.30 Win 11/5/16 6:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2211 Barzola wins by 3 round decision -105* vs Not Barzola by 3 round decision


                            Fight #2 - Loss (running total + $14.30)

                            $100.00 $155.00 Loss 11/5/16 7:00pm MMA Props Fighting 2133 Reyes wins by TKO/KO +155* vs Any other result


                            Fight #3 - Loss Running total - $184.00)

                            $150.00 $157.50 Loss 11/5/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2033 Alvey wins by TKO/KO +105* vs Any other result
                            Hedge fail -

                            $48.70 $175.80 Loss 11/5/16 7:30pm MMA Props Fighting 2029 Nicholson wins by TKO/KO +361* vs Any other result


                            Fight #4 - BIG WIN (Running total + $351.00)

                            $100.00 $525.00 Win 11/5/16 8:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1933 Andrade wins by TKO/KO +525* vs Any other result

                            Fight 5- Win (running total + $438.00)

                            $100.00 $87.00 Win 11/5/16 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Max Griffin -115* vs Erick Montano

                            Fight 6 - WIN (running total + $699.00)

                            $50.00 $120.00 Win 11/5/16 9:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1727 Soto wins by submission +240* vs Any other result
                            $134.30 $141.00 Win 11/5/16 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Joe Soto +105* vs Marco Antonio Beltran

                            Fight 7 - Win (Running Total + $781.00)

                            $62.00 $391.20 Loss 11/5/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1631 Perez wins by submission +631* vs Any other result
                            Strange hedge I know..
                            $100.00 $140.00 Win 11/5/16 9:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1611 Perez wins by 3 round decision +140* vs Not Perez by 3 round decision

                            Fight #8 - Win (running total + $831.00)

                            $80.00 $50.30 Win 11/5/16 10:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1511 Grasso wins by 3 round decision -151* vs Not Grasso by 3 round decision


                            Fight #9 - Big Loss ... (running total + $521.00)

                            $210.00 $200.00 Loss 11/5/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1402 Rashid Magomedov -105* vs Beneil Dariush
                            Hedge fail

                            $100.00 $345.00 Loss 11/5/16 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1427 Dariush wins by submission +345* vs Any other result


                            Fight #10 - Win (running total + $721.00

                            $230.00 $200.00 Win 11/5/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Martin Bravo -115* vs Claudio Puelles


                            Fight #11 - Win (running total + $814.00)

                            $100.00 $225.00 Loss 11/5/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1207 Oliveira wins by 3 round decision +450* vs Not Oliveira by 3 round decision
                            hedged at fight time.. Got cold feet as Oli missed weight, double weight cut..

                            $31.00 $224.80 Loss 11/5/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1221 Lamas wins in round 1 +725* vs Any other result
                            $55.30 $215.70 Win 11/5/16 11:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1209 Lamas wins inside distance +390* vs Not Lamas inside distance


                            Fight #12 - Win (running total + $1100.00)

                            $50.00 $340.00 Loss 11/5/16 10:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1305 Sanchez wins inside distance +680* vs Not Sanchez inside distance
                            $153.00 $336.60 Win 11/5/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1201 Diego Sanchez +220* vs Marcin Held

                            Fight #13 - Win (Final running total + $1360.00)


                            $300.00 $360.00 Win 11/5/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1001 Tony Ferguson +120* vs Rafael dos Anjos
                            Played Ferguson ITD for $100 and lost, can't find it..



                            That's a rap fellas!!!, profited $1360.00 off 5dimes with this event.. This will help cover most of my bets in the super event next weekend ..

                            This was a solid event win as all my other books I made good pay dirt on as well.. On to the next event we go!!!
                            Last edited by JIBBBY; 11-06-16, 12:22 PM.
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-16
                              • 14140

                              #294
                              Originally posted by GunShard
                              Made exactly rank 100 with 487 points.
                              Great job man!
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-14-16
                                • 14140

                                #295
                                Originally posted by Thrilla
                                Good job Hugo how did you see it so early live + 205? I waited until + 105 when I was more confident to pull the trigger. Ferguson was finding his range and rhytm in R2....I flowed with it. It never got higher then + 105. Still good timing.
                                He opened at (+205) on 5Ds right after R1. Then actually went up to (+225) and then back down to (+205) before R2 started. Ferg tends to lose round 1 and heat up in R2 and beyond. I'm impressed that he was able to maintain his pace over 5 rounds.
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                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 04-14-16
                                  • 14140

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                  It happens Hugo I thought you were doing well with this event....

                                  I had a good chunk of the main event bet on Fergy ITD and that missed.. The meat play for me was El Cucuy straight though since it was at plus odds and that bet was available on all my books.. So it worked out... The Diego Sanchez bets went the same.. ITD missed but the bigger Diego straight play hit at +odds on every book......

                                  I'll post my results tomorrow during the football games but I can already see I did pretty good with this event overall.. I hit that $500 winning prop early on in fight #4 and never looked back from there the rest of the night.. It's fun when it goes like that...


                                  When betting the entire card and all the fights like I do all you really need is one good prop hit and that can basically offset 4 or 5 other fight losses in other fights.. Hard to lose an event when that happens anyways.. Love those props
                                  Was even heading into the main event and lost a bunch on Ferg winning by decision. Didn't think he could win rounds against RDA considering he had lost R1 in his last two fights and RDA is typically an excellent round winner. I was also skeptical that Ferguson could keep such a frenetic pace for the duration of the fight. He proved me wrong on all accounts and I'd favor him against any LW in the world given this new information.
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                                  • bjpenn85
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-17-11
                                    • 5059

                                    #297
                                    Agreed, Tony Ferguson is probably the best lightweight at the moment. I was very impressed and shocked of how little respect he displayed for RDA. He looked like he thought he was unbeatable. Im not sure if Khabib can outwrestle Tony Ferguson without taking damage on the feet or getting subbed on the ground. Tony Ferguson is not a very nice guy i think, but he is one nasty mf. His toughness comes on top of an already insane skill set. He is so good right now, its almost ridiculous.
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                                    • Hugo de Naranja
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-14-16
                                      • 14140

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                      Agreed, Tony Ferguson is probably the best lightweight at the moment. I was very impressed and shocked of how little respect he displayed for RDA. He looked like he thought he was unbeatable. Im not sure if Khabib can outwrestle Tony Ferguson without taking damage on the feet or getting subbed on the ground. Tony Ferguson is not a very nice guy i think, but he is one nasty mf. His toughness comes on top of an already insane skill set. He is so good right now, its almost ridiculous.
                                      The only thing I worry about is that his style does not appeal to judges as much as a more traditional style. It seemed to me that he won rounds 2-5 but all judges had it 48-47.
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                                      • JIBBBY
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 12-10-09
                                        • 83693

                                        #299
                                        ^ El Cucuy leaves his chin open and against a good head kicker or puncher he'll eventually get dropped.. He comes in with his chin up when swinging and gets lazy and doesn't tuck it at range or show head movement at times..

                                        I think that will tax him in a future fight at some point.. He's got a good chin though so it's working for now.. Other then that he's a very tough out right now and I'll continue to ride him until he loses..
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-14-16
                                          • 14140

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          ^ El Cucuy leaves his chin open and against a good head kicker or puncher he'll eventually get dropped.. He comes in with his chin up when swinging and gets lazy and doesn't tuck it at range or show head movement at times..

                                          I think that will tax him in a future fight at some point.. He's got a good chin though so it's working for now.. Other then that he's a very tough out right now and I'll continue to ride him until he loses..
                                          I'm thinking the same. Hopefully he fights McGregor next as I think that would be a great fight.
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                                          • Thor4140
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-09-08
                                            • 22296

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by firekillex
                                            god damn ferguson is a beast... hes like the terminator in there just never stops walking forward with crazy techniques and head movement, thought the RDA leg kicks would stiffle his movement but rda did stick with them after winning round 1 i gave the other 4 rounds to fergy , i see him being a big problem for khabib or either mcrgegor / eddie tbh ... give this man his title shot !! happy he came through been a fighter ive been watching a ton since his ultimate fighter run and breaking that dudes jaw right after, hes come a long way ... best cardio and heart hes a certified warrior ... wonder if RDAs change of camps or making coming off roids hindered him but he still looked solid in the cardio department and got hit with some solid shots without wilting ... big fight and a ton of talent in the cage 2 of the best 55ers in the world . cheers to another profitable night ( barely )
                                            yeah lets see him win a fight that he doesn't blatantly cheat. This is twice now he was being beat and he resorted to something cheap and it change both fights completely around. U try and fight someone with double vision. Up till that eye poke he was being handled. Those kicks were doing a job on his legs and then all of a sudden he throws out his fingers in one of the most blatant eye pokes i ever saw. This kid is sneaky.
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                                            • JIBBBY
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-10-09
                                              • 83693

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by UncleChael
                                              El Cucuy baby! Hes been the champ since he walked thru hell with Edson. His 10th win straight should be for the title, no doubt
                                              Unc how did you finish on this card over all?

                                              I sense you were doing well from start to finish. I know you called Daruish and went big on him... I called that very wrong.. Russian fought like a bitch, and Dariush brought it offensively..

                                              Dariush looks dialed in. I may take him in future fights, he is dangerous right now.. Great call bra!!!
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                                              • firekillex
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-18-13
                                                • 6420

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                yeah lets see him win a fight that he doesn't blatantly cheat. This is twice now he was being beat and he resorted to something cheap and it change both fights completely around. U try and fight someone with double vision. Up till that eye poke he was being handled. Those kicks were doing a job on his legs and then all of a sudden he throws out his fingers in one of the most blatant eye pokes i ever saw. This kid is sneaky.
                                                Lol.... you mad bruh??? I'm assuming you've never trained or know anything about mma if you think tony Ferguson is a cheater , he had a 6 inch reach advantage and was using his hand to create distance he didn't mean to purposely eye poke him smh, it's called an accident you have open gloves and fighting for 25 minutes stuff like that happens , he easily could've rushed him when herb dean denied the break but didn't pursue and gave RDA time to recover , Ferguson is one of the true fighters in mma and wouldn't want to beat anybody that's not at there best it's pretty obvious from watching his style and interviews, he was the better man that night you can't take nothing away from either guy it was a super competitive fight between imo 2 of the 3 best 155ers on the planet , Ferguson has always had good movement and head movement in general I thought the leg kicks would do him in but RDA abandoned that game plan and was throwing many single shots and was getting stuffed on takedowns all things that don't have to do with vision , he was clearly fine after and the eye poke wasn't that serious .. accept the fight and respect Fergusons talent he won fair and square he made adjustments during rounds and took the momentum the eye poke wasn't the factor of him winning that's laughable to even believe that
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                                                • Sanity Check
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-30-13
                                                  • 10962

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                  yeah lets see him win a fight that he doesn't blatantly cheat. This is twice now he was being beat and he resorted to something cheap and it change both fights completely around. U try and fight someone with double vision. Up till that eye poke he was being handled. Those kicks were doing a job on his legs and then all of a sudden he throws out his fingers in one of the most blatant eye pokes i ever saw. This kid is sneaky.
                                                  Its sad how MMA consistently proves eye pokes and groin strikes are by far the most effective self defense techniques in the world.

                                                  Not sure how bad that eye poke was but RDA only took a few seconds to recover which seems to indicate it wasn't that bad.
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                                                  • Thor4140
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                    • 22296

                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by firekillex
                                                    Lol.... you mad bruh??? I'm assuming you've never trained or know anything about mma if you think tony Ferguson is a cheater , he had a 6 inch reach advantage and was using his hand to create distance he didn't mean to purposely eye poke him smh, it's called an accident you have open gloves and fighting for 25 minutes stuff like that happens , he easily could've rushed him when herb dean denied the break but didn't pursue and gave RDA time to recover , Ferguson is one of the true fighters in mma and wouldn't want to beat anybody that's not at there best it's pretty obvious from watching his style and interviews, he was the better man that night you can't take nothing away from either guy it was a super competitive fight between imo 2 of the 3 best 155ers on the planet , Ferguson has always had good movement and head movement in general I thought the leg kicks would do him in but RDA abandoned that game plan and was throwing many single shots and was getting stuffed on takedowns all things that don't have to do with vision , he was clearly fine after and the eye poke wasn't that serious .. accept the fight and respect Fergusons talent he won fair and square he made adjustments during rounds and took the momentum the eye poke wasn't the factor of him winning that's laughable to even believe that
                                                    We had another guy with a big mouth who used to pull the "did u ever train card" who basically put out loser after loser. R u him reincarnated? The bottom line if u ever watch film which i doubt u do, is that Tony tried to poke him the jab immediately before the jab that poked him. Then for him to keep charging like Dos Angos was faking makes this guy a cheater. He did the same thing to Barbosa when he illegally kicked him. Nobody is questioning his talents but he was being totally handled before that happen and he was losing to Barbosa when he pulled off the sneaky kick. Heck he was even put on the floor with the last kick before the poke. The eye poke wasn't a factor? Why did Dos Angos make a point about it after the fight? Ur a clueless idiot who thinks he knows more than everyone else just like that clown Peltz.
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                                                    • Thor4140
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                                                      • 02-09-08
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                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                      Its sad how MMA consistently proves eye pokes and groin strikes are by far the most effective self defense techniques in the world.

                                                      Not sure how bad that eye poke was but RDA only took a few seconds to recover which seems to indicate it wasn't that bad.
                                                      Heck the refs missed the whole thing so he really had no choice to stay out five minutes especially with the crowd booing and all that other pressure. How many times u see ur guy get poked and u wish they take their time to get back and then u think "man that wasn't to bright of him to go back that soon"
                                                      Dude he mention it after the fight. Go rewatch round two.
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                                                      • firekillex
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                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                        We had another guy with a big mouth who used to pull the "did u ever train card" who basically put out loser after loser. R u him reincarnated? The bottom line if u ever watch film which i doubt u do, is that Tony tried to poke him the jab immediately before the jab that poked him. Then for him to keep charging like Dos Angos was faking makes this guy a cheater. He did the same thing to Barbosa when he illegally kicked him. Nobody is questioning his talents but he was being totally handled before that happen and he was losing to Barbosa when he pulled off the sneaky kick. Heck he was even put on the floor with the last kick before the poke. The eye poke wasn't a factor? Why did Dos Angos make a point about it after the fight? Ur a clueless idiot who thinks he knows more than everyone else just like that clown Peltz.
                                                        Lol you either bet large on RDA or are on your period I'm assuming... he lost so he said something it's called an excuse from where I'm from? If the poke was that bad he would've took more then 15 second break after Ferguson let him recover... I've watched every tony Ferguson fight and RDA fight and have been profitable for years lol not sure how you could legitmately think tony Ferguson is a cheater when he's literally one of the only real fighters left in mma .... it's a fight things happen literally over 50% of fights something like an eye poke happen or an inside leg kick hits the groin when you're throwing out crazy ass techniques like Ferguson something bad might hit , he's not just coming in throwing over hands he throws everything but the kitchen sink at his opponent , I could see your point if he was flagrantly throwing his fingers out palming at the face like Jon Jones but he wasn't , and he was being totally handled.... wtf fight were you watching lmao every single round was competitive he lost the first round but it was a clear 10-9 being totally handled isn't a close round by definition lol, his forward pressure stifled rdas movement and combos not an eye poke that he was good from 20 seconds later if it was so bad he should've taken the full 5 minutes and got doctor assistance , this happens all the time I'd bet 75% of fighters have either landed an accidental groin shot or eye poke so 3 quarters of the UFC is cheaters now apparently ?? People always find ways to be a hater these days it's actually sad , I never said do you train? I said apparently you haven't because gauging distance people always put there hands out like that it's very common , that's why joe rogan has been an advocate for changing the gloves for so long but it's tough to change them for the grappling aspect , just accept it was a solid fight / war and RDA lost fair and square , belittling a guys best performance/ win to date because an accident eye poke is just ridiculous
                                                        Last edited by firekillex; 11-07-16, 11:38 AM.
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                                                        • Thrilla
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                                                          #308
                                                          - John Ramdeen and Robin Black recap Tony Ferguson's close decision win over former lightweight champion Rafael Dos Anjos at UFC Fight Night Mexico City this past Saturday.
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            • 12-10-09
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                                                            #309
                                                            Eye pokes are bad, I always said a point should get deducted if it happens a second time in a fight or it's a really bad first eye poke.. Gotta close your fists when striking, don't straight arm defend with open hands and fingers in a guys face either..

                                                            Absolutely there should be point deductions for blatant eye pokes and even for non intentional eye pokes if it happens more then once in a fight.. Eye pokes suck...
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                                                            • Thor4140
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                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              Eye pokes are bad, I always said a point should get deducted if it happens a second time in a fight or it's a really bad first eye poke.. Gotta close your fists when striking, don't straight arm defend with open hands and fingers in a guys face either..

                                                              Absolutely there should be point deductions for blatant eye pokes and even for non intentional eye pokes if it happens more then once in a fight.. Eye pokes suck...
                                                              A point deduction helps but the damage is done.
                                                              I wouldn't even say this if he didn't kick Barbosa illegally and both times he went after the guy like the guy was faking. He was losing this fight lopsidedly before that poke. I didn't think at first it was this one sided, till i watched it again. He lost round 1 big and he was losing round two. RDA kicks were taking their toll. The last kick before the punch sent him on his ass. RDA was the guy moving forward and all that changed. Again after the poke.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                #311
                                                                ^ RDA in the after fight interview said the eye poke bothered him and he was seeing double vision but still El Cucuy was gonna win that fight regardless I believe..
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                                                                • Thrilla
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                                                                  #312
                                                                  - Tony Ferguson & Rafael dos Anjos Octagon Interview.
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                                                                  • PaperTrail07
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                                                                    • 08-29-08
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                                                                    #313
                                                                    and people laughed when I said he would walk thru ** G LOL....
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                                                                    • Thor4140
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                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      ^ RDA in the after fight interview said the eye poke bothered him and he was seeing double vision but still El Cucuy was gonna win that fight regardless I believe..
                                                                      nobody is denying the guy got talent but this fuker is sneaky. Before the poke like five seconds before he threw out that same group of fingers. He was getting dominated before that poke. Go watch it again.
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                                                                      • Thor4140
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                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                                                        Lol you either bet large on RDA or are on your period I'm assuming... he lost so he said something it's called an excuse from where I'm from? If the poke was that bad he would've took more then 15 second break after Ferguson let him recover... I've watched every tony Ferguson fight and RDA fight and have been profitable for years lol not sure how you could legitmately think tony Ferguson is a cheater when he's literally one of the only real fighters left in mma .... it's a fight things happen literally over 50% of fights something like an eye poke happen or an inside leg kick hits the groin when you're throwing out crazy ass techniques like Ferguson something bad might hit , he's not just coming in throwing over hands he throws everything but the kitchen sink at his opponent , I could see your point if he was flagrantly throwing his fingers out palming at the face like Jon Jones but he wasn't , and he was being totally handled.... wtf fight were you watching lmao every single round was competitive he lost the first round but it was a clear 10-9 being totally handled isn't a close round by definition lol, his forward pressure stifled rdas movement and combos not an eye poke that he was good from 20 seconds later if it was so bad he should've taken the full 5 minutes and got doctor assistance , this happens all the time I'd bet 75% of fighters have either landed an accidental groin shot or eye poke so 3 quarters of the UFC is cheaters now apparently ?? People always find ways to be a hater these days it's actually sad , I never said do you train? I said apparently you haven't because gauging distance people always put there hands out like that it's very common , that's why joe rogan has been an advocate for changing the gloves for so long but it's tough to change them for the grappling aspect , just accept it was a solid fight / war and RDA lost fair and square , belittling a guys best performance/ win to date because an accident eye poke is just ridiculous
                                                                        Are u one of those guys who always thinks they are right and will follow your argument with a terribly long winded post? The bottom line is all of RDA pressure stopped when he got poked. He was the one pressuring. He was the one connecting. You know what save ur comment i couldn't bear reading another of these long winded post which seems to be your specialty. You are an expert we know just like Pletz was. Another guy who had one ju jitz class and now thinks they are a special MMA handicapper. All pressure stopped right after the poke.
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