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  • Vaughany
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    #36
    Originally posted by brooks85
    commendable how you guys have each other's back. It is like you guys have some kind of light to shine in the sky when one of you is in trouble.

    If that is what miri meant then I don't see what he thinks he is telling me? I already said the exact same stuff. Conor takes a punch to give a punch and has yet to fight someone with lawler's power. And the point was not that conor can't win, it is that it is not a smart fight for him. Win or loss he is going to get clobbered by a guy who can ruin his career.
    Ok that may well be right. But there is no guarantee Conor would fight like that against Lawlor. He and Kavanagh are not stupid
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    • brooks85
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      #37
      time will tell
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      • bjpenn85
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        #38
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        not necessarily. FLoyd Mayweather has amazing head movement doesnt he. And if he decided he wanted to throw-down for once and just have a brawl in his next fight that wouldnt mean he suddenly has no head movement. It is all about choice.

        Plus its not all about head movement, aside from footwork and angles, judging distance and timing are just as important and there are none better at that than Conor
        Its not all about head movement i agree. All of those points i do agree with you. The difference with mcregor is timing, precision, shot selection etc. But my point wasnt that he doesnt have all of those things. He gets hit a lot, but as i said, he doesnt care, because he has one excellent chin. Im not even sure if he actually has bad head movement, all i know is that he for some reason gets hit more than one would think a person with this skillset.
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        • Vaughany
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          #39
          yeah, at the end of the day he has that innate Irish brawler mentality in him though! No matter how technical and skilled you are that will always come out in some way I guess
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          • mirinquads
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            #40
            Originally posted by bjpenn85
            Brooks has a point though Miri and Josh. Conor gets hit ALL THE TIME, but he doesnt care. He just walk right through it. But, because he walks right through shots, he still got bad head movement. A good chin doesnt give you good head movement, what the hell is this kind of low life logic?

            I do think Conor eats lawler for lunch. All day. Lawler is a garbage, he has lost three fight in a row now against better strikers, good luck beating conor. Good f luck.
            I was commenting on Brooks thinking Conor didnt have a good chin. Which is fuken hilarious. Now it's time for you to spit out the crayon, wipe off the drool and listen up, Brooks. A little understood fact about Conor is that he has turned into the pressure fighter he is now, because of his power and size advantage. When he fought 155, he was way more of a counter puncher, flowing combinations and just being all around smooth - Baiting people to come in with his kicks, countering with his left straight.
            He will be fighting more this way when going back up the weightclasses, because he knows he will have the speed and agility advantage back up there.

            Just because a fighter doesnt fight a certain way, doesn't mean he doesnt have the capability to do so. Especially one as diverse as Conor.
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            • brooks85
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              #41
              Originally posted by Vaughany
              Ok that may well be right. But there is no guarantee Conor would fight like that against Lawlor. He and Kavanagh are not stupid
              so you're going to place a bet on a guy to fight completely different than he has before against a guy who is one of the best at landing shots?


              can you understand why that isn't a good bet? just curious if you understand you're not handicapping, you're hoping in that scenario.
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              • Vaughany
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                #42
                Originally posted by brooks85
                so you're going to place a bet on a guy to fight completely different than he has before against a guy who is one of the best at landing shots?


                can you understand why that isn't a good bet? just curious if you understand you're not handicapping, you're hoping in that scenario.
                where did I say I was going to place a bet on him?! we dont even know the line yet do we?!! lol
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                • brooks85
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                  where did I say I was going to place a bet on him?! we dont even know the line yet do we?!! lol
                  good idea to backtrack
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                  • Vaughany
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by brooks85
                    good idea to backtrack
                    lol again, where did I say I would bet on him? you dont even know the line yet you are talking about betting on him! You realise betting on somebody at Evens is different to betting on somebody at -200 right?! Would you bet on Robbie if he was Evens and if he was -300?
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                    • getlucky2win
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                      #45
                      i would bet lawler -420
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                      • bjpenn85
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by getlucky2win
                        i would bet lawler -420
                        ...then you need to getlucky2win.
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                        • mirinquads
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          lol again, where did I say I would bet on him? you dont even know the line yet you are talking about betting on him! You realise betting on somebody at Evens is different to betting on somebody at -200 right?! Would you bet on Robbie if he was Evens and if he was -300?
                          V, please don't argue Brooks like he's an actual human being. He's not worth the taps on your keyboard. He's like Luca fury crossed with Ron Paul, Broke, autistic and not even animals want to go near him.
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                          • PaperTrail07
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                            #48
                            Lets not forget he went to decision w Holloway
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                            • JoshKnows46
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                              Lets not forget he went to decision w Holloway
                              Holloway is a tough matchup, similar to diaz in body type and fighting style in some ways. But mcgregor was hurt that fight and was forced to take Holloway down instead of knocking him out on the feet. Keep that in mind.
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                              • bjpenn85
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                Lets not forget he went to decision w Holloway
                                Holloway would beat diaz though + mcregor was injured as well. I would not put anything into that fight. I mean he KOed aldo in 13 seconds, he has mostly performed spectacular. Spectacular is the only way to describe hes performance please not undervalue his performance based on him actually taking fights injured compared to other fighters canceling and withdrawing fights all the time. Its a strength not a weakness going to decision in that occasion. A fakking strenght is what that is. Completely garbage point to make.
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                                • brooks85
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  lol again, where did I say I would bet on him? you dont even know the line yet you are talking about betting on him! You realise betting on somebody at Evens is different to betting on somebody at -200 right?! Would you bet on Robbie if he was Evens and if he was -300?
                                  lol keep peddling


                                  yeah I wonder what the line could be? so many possibilities... hell conor would be anything from -1000 to +1000 huh?

                                  haha I forgot how ridiculous you are
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                                  • Vaughany
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by brooks85
                                    lol keep peddling


                                    yeah I wonder what the line could be? so many possibilities... hell conor would be anything from -1000 to +1000 huh?

                                    haha I forgot how ridiculous you are
                                    do you have some kind of disorder where you can't answer questions?! Im not backtracking on anything, my point is still the same. Once again, show me where I said that I'd bet him?
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                                    • Vaughany
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                                      V, please don't argue Brooks like he's an actual human being. He's not worth the taps on your keyboard. He's like Luca fury crossed with Ron Paul, Broke, autistic and not even animals want to go near him.
                                      I know, I shall stop!
                                      I dont get why he is so arrogant and thinks he has some kind of God-like knowledge of MMA... he must forget that I was on here when he was posting his plays then suddenly stopped because he absolutely tanked on the Canchez/Kampmann card and then came up with the excuse of ''i've lost the will to post anymore'' as to why he wasnt posting plays anymore!

                                      No brah, you just spunked your bankroll! Dont be scared to admit homie!!
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                                      • brooks85
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                        do you have some kind of disorder where you can't answer questions?! Im not backtracking on anything, my point is still the same. Once again, show me where I said that I'd bet him?
                                        I can't because you're backtracking with your nonsense about the line not being out. I mean wow vaughany, as long as you've been betting mma you can't figure out a line of a matchup? Your defense is we don't know the line yet... yeah your point is?

                                        that is why the -1000 to +1000 thing is so funny because the range obviously is not that wide now is it?


                                        you're either going to bet conor in this fight or you're going to bet lawler. The line isn't going to change your pick unless you just want to take the underdog which would then bring up the point you obviously have no read on the fight.


                                        so back to where we started and your comment about conor and his coach not being stupid. If you bet conor you're betting on him fighting completely different than he has before. No reason to over complicate this v, using your words.
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                                        • Vaughany
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                                          #55
                                          well obviously the line range isnt going to be that wide (you are the one who said that by the way!). And yes the line would change my pick, for example if I think Conor wins 55% of the time Im not going to bet him if he is worse than -125...it's very simple mathematics. I think Rivera beats Pickett more often not but I won't be betting on him this Saturday because I don't think he wins as often as the odds imply. I really shouldnt be having to explain basics like this!

                                          Betting on him fighting completely different than he has before?!! You haven't seen Conor fight before UFC have you brah?!
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                                          • brooks85
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                                            well obviously the line range isnt going to be that wide (you are the one who said that by the way!). And yes the line would change my pick, for example if I think Conor wins 55% of the time Im not going to bet him if he is worse than -125...it's very simple mathematics. I think Rivera beats Pickett more often not but I won't be betting on him this Saturday because I don't think he wins as often as the odds imply. I really shouldnt be having to explain basics like this!

                                            Betting on him fighting completely different than he has before?!! You haven't seen Conor fight before UFC have you brah?!
                                            it is. Thanks for admitting you have no read on the fight and are betting purely based on technicals(look it up because I imagine you will need to).

                                            so there is no reason for you to say "conor and his coach are not stupid" because that has no weight on how you place a bet. You just admitted it; technicals.
                                            Last edited by brooks85; 02-26-16, 09:04 AM.
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                                            • JoshKnows46
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by brooks85
                                              it is. Thanks for admitting you have no read on the fight and are betting purely based on technicals(look it up because I imagine you will need to).

                                              so there is no reason for you to say "conor and his coach are not stupid" because that has no weight on how you place a bet. You just admitted it; technicals.
                                              Lol u make me sick, i technically feel my brain cells bursting with each post of yours I read, don't you have a sheep to be fuckin, please give up forming opinions or give up posting them....mcgregor will finish lawlar, line will be about +185 mcgregor, and I would lay upwards to -230 mcgregor. Gonna be easy money. no need to type anything more, ufc 200 will be here soon enough.
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                                              • brooks85
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                Lol u make me sick, i technically feel my brain cells bursting with each post of yours I read, don't you have a sheep to be fuckin, please give up forming opinions or give up posting them....mcgregor will finish lawlar, line will be about +185 mcgregor, and I would lay upwards to -230 mcgregor. Gonna be easy money. no need to type anything more, ufc 200 will be here soon enough.

                                                oh good we have the unbiased input from josh... lol poor thing. Careful with those brain cells josh, we both know you don't have many left. Remember the brain is a muscle too, it is not too late for you.
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                                                • JoshKnows46
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by brooks85
                                                  oh good we have the unbiased input from josh... lol poor thing. Careful with those brain cells josh, we both know you don't have many left. Remember the brain is a muscle too, it is not too late for you.
                                                  Dont get in your own way, just bet what I bet, and I'll change your bum life.
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                                                  • brooks85
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                    Dont get in your own way, just bet what I bet, andI'll change your bum life.


                                                    lol I saw how much you make betting. Reminds me of the fun I have with fantasy sports...
                                                    Last edited by brooks85; 02-26-16, 10:23 AM.
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                                                    • JoshKnows46
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by brooks85
                                                      lol I saw how much make betting. Reminds me of the fun I have with fantasy sports...
                                                      Go all in with your pizza points on mcgregor vs lawlar
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                                                      • brooks85
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                        Go all in with your pizza points on mcgregor vs lawlar
                                                        can't, limit is 500


                                                        lol curious though because you don't know the history but some friendly advice; did you know using the term "pizza points" around here is mocking some ex-posters? Mainly "MD" and his buttbuddy who I can't remember his name... edge of my tongue tho... some silly hot-tub buying, pizza addicted clown... christ what was his name?


                                                        oh yea "nuyahbidness" there we go. That clown lol
                                                        Last edited by brooks85; 02-26-16, 10:29 AM.
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                                                        • mirinquads
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                                          Go all in with your pizza points on mcgregor vs lawlar
                                                          10/10

                                                          #rekt, #slekt, #dekt.

                                                          The only term pizza points is mocking is you Brooks. As you're a broke pizzaboy. You see the correlations?
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                                                          • brooks85
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                                                            #64
                                                            lol I see the butt-buddy brigade sent out their emergency signal for help

                                                            Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                            10/10

                                                            #rekt, #slekt, #dekt.

                                                            The only term pizza points is mocking is you Brooks. As you're a broke pizzaboy. You see the correlations?
                                                            logic would say otherwise miri. You can't save your buttbuddies on this one, they buried themselves by ordering far more pizza than I ever have... lol


                                                            poor miri, stuck in the forest still
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                                                            • Vaughany
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by brooks85
                                                              it is. Thanks for admitting you have no read on the fight and are betting purely based on technicals(look it up because I imagine you will need to).

                                                              so there is no reason for you to say "conor and his coach are not stupid" because that has no weight on how you place a bet. You just admitted it; technicals.
                                                              lol of course it has weight, what are talking about! Doesnt mean I will automatically bet on Mcgregor no matter what the line is. If you understood this you might not of been throwing hundreds on friggin Chris Tuscherer at -260 against Mark Hunt and tanking!!

                                                              Hopeless, just like your betting thread!!
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                                                              • brooks85
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                lol of course it has weight, what are talking about! Doesnt mean I will automatically bet on Mcgregor no matter what the line is. If you understood this you might not of been throwing hundreds on friggin Chris Tuscherer against Mark Hunt and tanking!!

                                                                Hopeless, just like your betting thread!!
                                                                what you just said vaughany, nothing is going to save you now.


                                                                you bet on technicals, do you even know what that means? I doubt it but I'm sure you can understand why that is comical to me; your ignorance. And now you're panicking by bringing up past bets lol. You're too predictable vaughany. You said some stupid stuff, got called out on it; relax. It is not the end of the world and your cred around here has already been cemented as clown so nothing to worry about.
                                                                Last edited by brooks85; 02-26-16, 10:42 AM.
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                                                                • Vaughany
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  lol you are literally just like Nate Diaz! its worrying

                                                                  ''you are on steroids''

                                                                  ''your teammates were on steroids''

                                                                  ''penetrate you, you are on steroids''!!!
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                                                                  • mirinquads
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    lol of course it has weight, what are talking about! Doesnt mean I will automatically bet on Mcgregor no matter what the line is. If you understood this you might not of been throwing hundreds on friggin Chris Tuscherer at -260 against Mark Hunt and tanking!!

                                                                    Hopeless, just like your betting thread!!
                                                                    Lol, you see why it's so great to bash brooks ? It's like a broken record. He's been talking about pizzas for the last 2 years.. I guess that's what happens when you live off catfood mainly, rofl
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                                                                    • brooks85
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      ^I've been talking about something I don't eat for 2 years?

                                                                      lol logic and the facts never side with you do they miri?


                                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                      lol you are literally just like Nate Diaz! its worrying

                                                                      ''you are on steroids''

                                                                      ''your teammates were on steroids''

                                                                      ''penetrate you, you are on steroids''!!!
                                                                      lol wreaks of desperation but what else do you have?

                                                                      you're panicking because it is clear you really don't know what you're talking about. Nothing is going to change that. You bet on technicals and you didn't even know you did ... lol
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                                                                      • Vaughany
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        lol keep betting on Chris Tuscherer at -260, Nate!

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