UFC on FOX: Dillashaw vs. Barao 2 (July 25, 2015)

JIBBBY · 07-20-15, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

I've never seen Dominique Steele fight. Clueless as to what his skill level is.

Steele can get bullied by a wrestler or someone that presses the fight forward and takes it to him.. Zac will do just that..

My take on Dominique Steele - Fairly durable but can be KO'd (5 losses with 3 by KO), he looks more scary then he actually is.. Doesn't pack super heavy hands as he only has 3 wins by KO in 18 pro fights on his record (keep in mind most of those 18 pro fights were in backyard venues against class C fighters also) He trains at Team Vision which is a very suspect camp in itself...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dominique-Steele-47845

Sanity Check · 07-20-15, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Steele can get bullied by a wrestler or someone that presses the fight forward and takes it to him.. Zac will do just that..

My take on Dominique Steele - Fairly durable but can be KO'd (5 losses with 3 by KO), he looks more scary then he actually is.. Doesn't pack super heavy hands as he only has 3 wins by KO in 18 pro fights on his record (keep in mind most of those 18 pro fights were in backyard venues against class C fighters also)http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dominique-Steele-47845

There's highlights from his last fight near the end of this.

@ 1:35

PaperTrail07 · 07-20-15, 01:48 PM

CaptChaos145 · 07-20-15, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by Sanity Check

What's the word on Andrew Holbrook.

He has 9 fights. 9 finishes via sub in the 1st/2nd round.

Is he good? Has anyone seen him fight?

ITT - Barboza's suspect chin makes it even.

Felder could have improved a lot. The way he dominated and finished Danny Castillo in his last fight was amazing.

Felder has improved. I watched him in the regional circuit up close. He's very hungry now. Donald Cerrone has had a huge influence on him too. It's given Paul a lot of confidence. I just don't think he can hang with Barboza but we will see. The line is moving. They weer both even at -115. Now Felder is a +110 and Barboza is a -125. I got Barboza at -115.

bjpenn85 · 07-20-15, 02:54 PM

So Felder by KO less likely by decision. And Edson by whatever probably. But, thats the case, if you have to hedge, or youre very undsure, DONT F BET. Then its bad. These 5050 fights doesnt earn you money longterm, unless you believe you have a significant edge, which i can assure you, you dont have in this case. Rivera against brimage...thats a supposedly 5050 fight which isnt...this one, coin toss.

bjpenn85 · 07-20-15, 02:56 PM

That opera gif is outstanding, what a perfect taunt haha

bjpenn85 · 07-20-15, 03:42 PM

F that gif is money.

JIBBBY · 07-20-15, 04:06 PM

Event write ups are coming out now... This should help close the deal on some of your 50/50 fight thoughts for some hopefully.. Read up gents, don't be lazy as it's additional information sources..

Combat - http://combatpress.com/2015/07/toe-t...d-predictions/

Bleach - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-ufc-on-fox-16

UncleChael · 07-20-15, 04:49 PM

Karmaphobia · 07-20-15, 04:52 PM

Robin Black is such a tool.

mirinquads · 07-20-15, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by mydikyoass84

Your pic and your demeanor says it all. You're a loser, which is why you rub it in people's faces when you win a bet (which isn't often), unlike real actual winners like Jibbby and JoshKnows, but it's funny how you swing from his dick and act like his sidekick. Oh and btw, you're so cool because you have had an account for a little while, like I give two shits about my precious account on here. All that matters is identifying the winners and losers and knowing who to fade and tail. This place has gotten much better here recently after MD and Ron Paul left, but there are still worthless negative pieces of shit like you who still stink up this place. Have a nice day documented loser, enjoy losing with your embarrassing pic that every one here has made fun of.

What's sad is that I was posting that gif years ago. Get off my dikk, you're the biggest biter ever.

So deep in your head that you come crawling back half a year after I got you thrown out like a piece of thrash, and still butthurt about it. Love it.

You're so insignificant that nobody remembers you around here, and you're still full of madness and hate. Go outside sometime, there's more to life than being butthurt about a goddamn internet forum.

JIBBBY · 07-20-15, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by Karmaphobia

Robin Black is such a tool.

A very excitable tool indeed... Love the glasses though...

mirinquads · 07-20-15, 06:28 PM

The fact that you think I give a shit about what anybody thinks of me or if my bets lose or not on this site, is hilarious to me. Love how you're mad about my picture too. It eats you up doesn't it, that my eyes are right there, looking at you with contempt, and you can't do shit about it.
And yes, you got baited you, overextended and got thrown out. You're just not intelligent enough to hang.

Besides, Jibbby likes me, right Jibs? ; )

Karmaphobia · 07-20-15, 06:29 PM

Ha! Funny Jibster.

This was Bubbles band before he accidentally ended up on the Trailer Park Boys

http://youtu.be/e-w2ZRFWf0I

Originally posted by JIBBBY

A very excitable tool indeed... Love the glasses though...

JIBBBY · 07-20-15, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Besides, Jibbby likes me, right Jibs? ; )

I like everybody when I'm winning Miri you know this...

Don't try and bring me into your cyber wars and battles pal, been there and done that on this forum already and now have found peace in the middle east up in this beast...

mirinquads · 07-20-15, 07:34 PM

This isn't a battle, this is the stalker up there getting slaughtered.

Glad you're not as butthurt as that chump up there when i burst your balls a little.

JIBBBY · 07-20-15, 08:14 PM

Saw a recent pic of Barao. He's not looking very good...

I think Barao hit the wall and needs to take some time off from the sport myself or take a few more easy fights to build back up his confidence.. Jumping back in the shark tank this soon is a mistake..

He's got that GSP burnt out syndrome going on in his head IMO... No former champion like Barao likes taking a first time beating like he did with TJ.. I think that first fight broke him mentally.. He was never the same after. That mental shield of invicibily was broken in other words... Wouldn't be surprised if he misses weight or looks for an out leading up in this fight.

All in on TJ if it happens.... I'm thinkng TJ finishes him in this next go around again but before round 5..

1009 Dillashaw wins inside distance

<input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4"> +140

1041 Dillashaw wins by TKO/KO

<input id="editx" name="M1_19" size="4"> +175

mirinquads · 07-20-15, 08:20 PM

This goes deep most likely. TJ is no knockout puncher, more of a volume guy and Barao knows what to expect now. Took him 5 rounds to put away Joe Soto, who got starched his next fight by a no name. - TJ decision and the over.

JIBBBY · 07-20-15, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

This goes deep most likely. TJ is no knockout puncher, more of a volume guy and Barao knows what to expect now. Took him 5 rounds to put away Joe Soto, who got starched his next fight by a no name. - TJ decision and the over.

I think once Barao starts getting peppered and out worked after a round he's gonna have flash backs and remember what happen to him in that first fight and look for an out.. Just my opinion.. MMA is mostly a mental game at this level..

CaptChaos145 · 07-20-15, 08:45 PM

Guys can we keep the posts constructive? If some of you want to bicker then create a thread for it. I mean no disrespect but the arguing clogs up the thread.

UncleChael · 07-20-15, 09:34 PM

Originally posted by UncleChael

Miesha will win.

I lied. I seen Miesha Tig ol' Bitties hitting the bag and I was mesmerize.

fitguy67 · 07-21-15, 12:06 AM

guyz...can anyone chime in with some rationale as to why Elizabeth Phillips is -175/Jessamyn Duke +150

defies all insta-sherdog/-wiki capping

both losing their last two (but Duke's 2 oponent's miles better) and Duke holding an early-R2 submission win when they fought 3 years ago...

motivationally, i gotta suspect the brains-that-be figure Phillips back is far more squarely against the wall, as a loss will put her in the position of having lost to 3 cans in succession...while if Duke loses her 3rd in a row, at least 2 of them will have been to top-tier competition (not to mention that she's gotta have extended "shelf life" extension by virtue of her relationship with the company's Diva)

myself, i tend to discount a lot of the credence put in such "motivational" angles...and take a more practical approach...

*neither of these broads are anywhere near contender-level
*Duke's certainly faced tougher competition along the way, AND
*Duke's beat this same gal the only time they fought about 3 years ago...
*both of 'em are gonna fight like hell to avoid the 3rd L in a row, which is always a stigma to be avoided

so, if it was pk and you were "gun to the head" forced to pick, why would anyone NOT choose Duke?

as there is in fact a fat payout on Duke, and i'm not one to look a gift-horse in the mouth, i'd like to know what i may be missing...before i walk into the "danger danger will robinson" trap set by the diabolical books

fitguy67 · 07-21-15, 12:23 AM

only faves that jump off the sheet as worthy of their ticket right now are Dillashaw & Tate

both about -200 so each straight is fine and you can also throw a splash on a parlay
(Dillashaw*Tate) for a nice +125 ish

Dillashaw needs little justification: why expect anything different? watch that robinblack vid (as squirrely as the delivery is...going backwards detracted from the thesis, really)...still the guy demonstrates convincingly that the fight-altering crack in R1 was orchestrated, not random)

as for Eye? what's the fascination--good on the feet definitely...but absolutely ZERO to offer on the mat (not hard to get/keep down, not even a good initiator/opportunist scramble-wise)...not a good recipe for an all-round mentally tough Tate (who i'll take over anyone in the division not named Rousey or Zingano...good fight IQ wherever the fight goes, a career over-achiever who gets beat by the best...but seldom does bonehead stuff to beat herself)
I picked Tate as a big dog against McMann on this basis...less skilled for sure but crafty and never folds...the twitter wannabe sharps are falling all over themselves in knowingly playing up Eye over Tate with absolutely no basis in history...

quick: Meisha Tate vs. Alexis Davis at pk..."gun to head" forced to risk all you hold dear...thought so, I rest my case...

mirinquads · 07-21-15, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by mydikyoass84

lol baited? Is that why I was banned? My God you're a moron. I didn't even speak to you with my other name. Anyways, have fun losing bets and sucking off JoshKnows and pretending his picks are yours. How many units are you down again sissy?

Joshknows literally had a whole thread with wrong picks not too long ago. He's nothing special as a capper at all, he just throws out big bets. He is however somebody that will at least intelligently discuss the picks, thus someone who has a bit of value to talk to, unlike most of the forum. I love your mentality though - "HE TALKS TO HIM AND THEY HAVE THE SAME PICKS, LOL TOTALLY SUCKING HIM OFF DUDE."
I don't give a shit what people think about my supposed record on this site. Literally, not a single fuk. You can all think im down 200 units. Do not care.

I will put you on ignore now, stop masturbating to my picture, and get another hobby than stalking me, wierdo. Was fun bashing you for a while though, bye now.

Sanity Check · 07-21-15, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by fitguy67

guyz...can anyone chime in with some rationale as to why Elizabeth Phillips is -175/Jessamyn Duke +150

defies all insta-sherdog/-wiki capping

Elizabeth Phillips took the previous fight with Duke on extremely short notice and that fight happened close to 3 years ago. Phillips trains with Juliana Pena. That could be one advantage -- having someone good to spar with and learn from. I'm clueless as to where Duke trains or who she trains with aside from her learning jits at 10th planet jj, but it could be accurate to say she isn't getting the kind of training she needs to win her fights. In her last few fights Jessamyn Duke has looked terrible standing, her reactions were embarrassingly slow. She didn't look like she belonged in the UFC. That could be why Phillips is the fave.

fitguy67 · 07-21-15, 09:44 AM

^good perspective...yeah, Jessy made Leslie Smith seem like Anderson Silva teeing off on a heavy bag

you sufficiently rained on my "free money"/"massive gift" parade...
"lamp-post+150, danger will robinson!"

Unwritten Law · 07-21-15, 09:59 AM

This fight for Barao will make or break him. If he loses to Dillashaw he will tumble down and be considered washed up. However, I am giving him a chance to redeem himself. I won't call it a fluke as he was beaten to the punch every round and never had Dillashaw in danger of being finished. I think he underestimated him since he hadn't tasted defeat in nearly 10 years. Barao desperately needs to up his cardio otherwise he's in for another beat down. I don't see him hanging past 3 rounds.

JIBBBY · 07-21-15, 10:06 AM

^^ Combatpress boys are both picking the dog Duke to win....

I personally think both these chicks suck and either could win or lose.. May roll with the over at -200 in this fight myself as I believe that to be the safest gamble.. Phillips loves taking her fights to decision, hopefully Duke will watch out for the submissions on the ground this go around unlike she did in their first fight 2 years ago.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jessamyn-Duke-71307

I still think Duke as a +155 dog should not be discounted though. She was once one of the over hype'd Rhonda Rousey four horsewomen chicks that actually ment something at one time..

<small>UFC on Fox 16 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - United Center - Chicago, Illinois - UFC Fight Pass</small>
Sat 7/25	2001 Elizabeth Phillips	<input id="editx" name="M1_10" size="4"> -175	<input id="editx" name="L1_10" size="4"> o2½ -200
4:30PM	2002 Jessamyn Duke	<input id="editx" name="M2_10" size="4"> +155	<input id="editx" name="L2_10" size="4"> u2½ +170

JIBBBY · 07-21-15, 10:51 AM

My early lotto card parlay play as I don't mind sharing.. Will report results after.. These will be my picks and large bets unless I see something crazy happen at weigh ins..

Favorite heavy from top to bottom unfortunately and leaning a bit more on the O/U's this go around as I do think a bunch of these fights are basically coin flips that could go either way..

I will be parlay'ing up the heavy valued bets in 2 or 3 team parlays like I normally do..

I'm also gonna be playing the under in the TJ Dill fight which can't be listed in this parlay...

$5.00	$1,079.90	Pending	12 Team Parlay
				Pending	7/25/15 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1002 T.J. Dillashaw -220* <small>vs</small> Renan Barao
				Pending	7/25/15 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1101 Jessica Eye/Miesha Tate Over 2½ -270*
				Pending	7/25/15 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Edson Barboza -130* <small>vs</small> Paul Felder
				Pending	7/25/15 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Joe Lauzon -250* <small>vs</small> Takanori Gomi
				Pending	7/25/15 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1402 Gian Villante -225* <small>vs</small> Tom Lawlor
				Pending	7/25/15 7:00pm UFC Fighting 1501 Danny Castillo/Jim Miller Over 2½ -185*
				Pending	7/25/15 6:30pm UFC Fighting 1602 Ben Saunders -105* <small>vs</small> Kenny Robertson
				Pending	7/25/15 6:00pm UFC Fighting 1702 Eddie Wineland -140* <small>vs</small> Bryan Caraway
				Pending	7/25/15 5:30pm UFC Fighting 1801 James Krause/Daron Cruickshank Over 2½ -170*
				Pending	7/25/15 5:00pm UFC Fighting 1902 Ramsey Nijem -130* <small>vs</small> Andrew Holbrook
				Pending	7/25/15 4:30pm UFC Fighting 2001 Elizabeth Phillips/Jessamyn Duke Over 2½ -200*
				Pending	7/25/15 4:00pm UFC Fighting 2102 Zak Cummings -250* <small>vs</small> Dominique Steele

fitguy67 · 07-21-15, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Unwritten Law

This fight for Barao will make or break him. If he loses to Dillashaw he will tumble down and be considered washed up. However, I am giving him a chance to redeem himself. I won't call it a fluke as he was beaten to the punch every round and never had Dillashaw in danger of being finished. I think he underestimated him since he hadn't tasted defeat in nearly 10 years. Barao desperately needs to up his cardio otherwise he's in for another beat down. I don't see him hanging past 3 rounds.

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/the-fall-of-renan-barao

What is certain is that the old dog must learn new tricks if he hopes to take his title back from a man who demonstrated such a complete understanding of his every flaw.

the Pete Townsend theory ("meet the new fight...same as the old fight")...
...i buy it...and at just about 2-1 (and rising) , it ain't too expensive (yet)

JIBBBY · 07-21-15, 01:12 PM

^ Barao is still young enough at only age 28 to rebound, get his mind right, change camps, move to the States and hook up with Greg Jackson maybe, re-dedicate himself to the sport perhaps a year or 2 down the line.. This beat down come Saturday night will surely send him reeling though..

He'll have to do some serious soul searching afterwards...

PaperTrail07 · 07-21-15, 01:32 PM

his last win vs Barao was an epic performance..no way he does that again....I feel he will get the W but it wont be as smooth or as easy

bjpenn85 · 07-21-15, 02:12 PM

He should be able to counteract tjs style now, maybe copycatting tjs style would work. Bounce around and make life miserable same way. Probably just fold though.

JIBBBY · 07-21-15, 02:16 PM

^^^Paper as long as he wins...

A strong 2 team parlay IMO to win back even money.. Hit this hard myself...

PARLAY (2 TEAMS)

07/25/2015 @ 05:00 PM	MU	[24302] T.J. DILLASHAW -215 (RENAN BARAO vrs T.J. DILLASHAW)
07/25/2015 @ 05:00 PM	MU	[24346] ZAK CUMMINGS -250 (DOMINIQUE STEELE vrs ZAK CUMMINGS)

PaperTrail07 · 07-21-15, 03:03 PM

HaHa for sure....I do know a guy that Bets HUGE HUGE $..IMO.....15K over a UFC event .....is big on Dilla....I just think the line is a little high....Barao was shook/Dilla with a 1 of a kind performance....should be Dilla -160 IMO...

Originally posted by JIBBBY

^^^Paper as long as he wins...

A strong 2 team parlay IMO to win back even money.. Hit this hard myself...

PARLAY (2 TEAMS)

07/25/2015 @ 05:00 PM	MU	[24302] T.J. DILLASHAW -215 (RENAN BARAO vrs T.J. DILLASHAW)
07/25/2015 @ 05:00 PM	MU	[24346] ZAK CUMMINGS -250 (DOMINIQUE STEELE vrs ZAK CUMMINGS)