UFC on FOX 14: Gustafsson vs. Johnson (January 24, 2015)

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  • marzwoody
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    • 01-03-14
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    #36
    Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
    hehe this is gonna be fun
    Indeed. Davis is better in every aspect then Bader and Hendo will get outclassed by Mousasi. good look with your bets.
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    • JIBBBY
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      • 12-10-09
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      #37
      Originally posted by marzwoody
      Indeed. Davis is better in every aspect then Bader and Hendo will get outclassed by Mousasi. good look with your bets.
      I'm thinking Davis out points Bader for a decision win, Mousasi knocks Hendo out standing.. My best guess on how those fights will go down...
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      • JIBBBY
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        • 12-10-09
        • 83686

        #38
        Ok time to break down the remaining fights.. Took a good look into this one..

        Sat 1/24 1301 Akira Corassani <input id="radiox" value="M1_3" name="radiox" type="radio">-125 <input id="radiox" value="L1_3" name="radiox" type="radio">o1½ -185
        8:00PM 1302 Sam Sicilia <input id="radiox" value="M2_3" name="radiox" type="radio">+105 <input id="radiox" value="L2_3" name="radiox" type="radio">u1½ +155
        Best write up I could find.. It's a long read but worth a look in...

        Akira Corassani and Sam Sicilia have both been mixed bags in the UFC since their time on The Ultimate Fighter. Does a win here for either fighter put them back on the right path, or are both guys destined to be mid-level TUF fighters who never threaten the top of the division?

        Carey:
        I’m not very high on either one of these guys, but I’m definitely looking forward to their fight this weekend. Both men are in desperate need of a win in order to make sure they hold on to their jobs following this fight, and the odds are that they’ll both be long gone from the UFC before they’re ever in title contention. Therefore, this fight on network television could easily end up being the biggest in the career of both men. Since Corassani and Sicilia both love to scrap, this should be a highly entertaining affair.
        I’m hoping for an all-out brawl in this one, but I have serious doubts as to how long it will last. Those concerns stem from the state of Corassani’s chin. The New York-based Swede has been stopped by punches for every single loss of his MMA career. Since he’s gotten to the UFC, the knockouts have become more frequent. After ending up stretched out on the canvas in his last two fights, I have no faith in Corassani’s ability to take a solid punch, and I’m even less confident since he’s fighting a power puncher like Sicilia.
        As for Sicilia, this might be a perfect match-up for the Washington native since it’s doubtful his sketchy ground game will be tested against another brawler. Over half of Sicilia’s career losses have come by submission, including a recent tapout loss to Katsunori Kunimoto in September, and his tendency to get caught on the ground is what has hampered his chances at becoming a contender so far. That won’t be a problem on Saturday, and the most likely scenario is that we get to see a good scrap from two guys that like to throw down and go out on their sword.
        I think Sicilia wins this one early and remains in the middle of the pack in the division until he develops a better ground game or ends up on the chopping block. As for Corassani, well, don’t be surprised if this is the last time we see him in the Octagon.

        DeRose:
        I’ll go the opposite way here and pick Corassani to win this fight. The oft-injured Corassani is 3-2 in the UFC and his two losses aren’t surprising, considering they have come against two good fighters in Dustin Poirier and Max Holloway.
        Sicilia, on the other hand, is 2-4 in his featherweight tenure in the UFC and hasn’t really looked impressive. He has certainly been entertaining, but nothing about his performances has ever really stuck out. Meanwhile, Corassani has had a few of those moments, especially on TUF. His biggest weakness is his grappling, but we won’t have to worry about any of that here.
        So, it comes down to who wins in a striking match and I think Corassani takes that. That would be Corassani. Sicilia will want to make it a brawl and we might see glimpses of that in this fight, but Corassani does have effective striking when he wants to and, if that guy shows up, he will pick apart Sicilia from the outside.
        Vince can mention that Corassani has been knocked out a bunch over his career, sure, but the level of talent he has faced in the UFC has been excellent and that experience should certainly give him an edge in this fight.
        As for contending in the division, I can’t see either guy really being more than a mid-tier gatekeeper in the UFC. Both guys are lacking in areas, especially grappling, that are detrimental to anybody who wants to try to contend at featherweight. There are some good grapplers at 145 pounds, like Frankie Edgar at the top or even guys like Nik Lentz, Charles Oliveira and Clay Guida. So, with those holes specifically, it’ll be tough for either fighter to succeed or even get into the top 10.


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        In conclusion me tinks -

        Leaning towards http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Akira-Corassani-22641 but don't like the straight play..I think this is a tough fight to pick and bet on... I'm going with this prop for now -


        1/21/15 1:59pm $65.00 FP* $41.94 Pending 1/24/15 8:00pm Props Fighting 1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance -155* <small>vs</small> Corassani / Sicilia goes 3 rnd distance
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        • Unwritten Law
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          • 10-31-13
          • 2532

          #39
          Gegard will make quick work of Hendo and Davis / Bader over 2.5 rounds.
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          • moretti
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            • 07-19-12
            • 97

            #40
            In before Jibbby getting flamed hard for two letters
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            • JIBBBY
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              • 12-10-09
              • 83686

              #41
              Originally posted by moretti
              In before Jibbby getting flamed hard for two letters
              Not getting flamed, just sharing what I think is the best info.. Happens to be a long write up this go around...

              Since the main card has been covered by every possible media source already let's move on to the prelims now... Bleacher report delivers with the basics as usual..

              The UFC just had a giant weekend in Boston with UFC Fight Night 59 and superstar Conor McGregor . However, there is no rest for the weary, as we return with UFC on Fox 14 on Saturday...
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              • JIBBBY
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                • 12-10-09
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                #42
                Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                Musoke Turmenov will be a HELLLL of a fight
                I'm going with Turmenov myself at -135 straight... Haven't ruled out an under rounds bet yet either...

                Sat 1/24 1401 Nico Musoke <input id="radiox" value="M1_4" name="radiox" type="radio">+115 <input id="radiox" value="L1_4" name="radiox" type="radio">o1½ -185
                7:30PM 1402 Albert Tumenov <input id="radiox" value="M2_4" name="radiox" type="radio">-135 <input id="radiox" value="L2_4" name="radiox" type="radio">u1½ +155

                This Russian is just running thru opponents lately and he could run right thru Musoke... 3 fights into the UFC and Turmenov has 2 KO's in his last 2 wins.. Impressive... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Albert-Tumenov-60198


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                4. How good can Albert Tumenov truly be?

                Following an unsuccessful UFC debut that saw Albert Tumenov lose a very close split decision to Ildemar Alcantara, the Russian has seemingly decided to not allow judges to determine his future inside the Octagon.

                After two straight knockout victories, Tumenov is taking on hometown favorite Nico Musoke in the main event of the "Prelims" this Saturday on FOX Sports 1 (FS1).
                Tumenov came into UFC with a highly-touted striking arsenal, and he has proven to be even better than many expected. Considering Tumenov is only 23 years old, the sky is the limit for the welterweight prospect.
                If Tumenov runs through Musoke in Sweden, expect the Russian to take a big step up in competition his next time out.
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                • Ron_Paul_2012
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                  Sultan Aliev very boring fighter but gorilla strong Robertson won't be able to out grapple him money

                  Albert Tumenov very fluid striking and excellent power money

                  Constantin Erokhin not very diverse in skill but EXTREMELY dangerous power Money

                  Makwan Amirkhani dangerous on the ground , ogle is average Money

                  Dan Henderson post TRT power is the last thing to go and his wrestling base makes me believe the odds are off he is very difficult to defeat good for a small bet
                  Agree with everything you said except Hendo. No way Hendo wins this fight mate. If you take away your nostalgia for Hendo and ...... O never mind. If you want to have fun on a flyer on Hendo via TKO then so be it. My biggest play on the card is Mousasi straight. But as I said before Aliev, Tumenov, Erokhin & Amirkhani should win. GL!
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                  • Rubber Guard
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                    • 06-22-11
                    • 1550

                    #44
                    Ive always bashed Bader and Phil. Mostly Phil but..

                    Maybe it is just my dislile of phil davis or something but at those odds.....got to like Bader. Phil will struggle to get him down. Bader has much more game changing power. Cardio pretty even. I feel it is a pretty even fight. Figured Phil would be favored but not by that margin.
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                    • Rubber Guard
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                      #45
                      WAR Hendo by the way.

                      Mousasi is too good to get clipped. But he fights in a daze much of the time. Perhaps more do vs guys who are not dangerous. 1 more H-Bomb!
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                      • Ron_Paul_2012
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                        Ive always bashed Bader and Phil. Mostly Phil but..

                        Maybe it is just my dislile of phil davis or something but at those odds.....got to like Bader. Phil will struggle to get him down. Bader has much more game changing power. Cardio pretty even. I feel it is a pretty even fight. Figured Phil would be favored but not by that margin.
                        Well the over or goes the distance is the play for me. I also have a tiny play on Davis via decision. If Davis wins it will definitely be via decision.
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          • 12-10-09
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                          Agree with everything you said except Hendo. No way Hendo wins this fight mate. If you take away your nostalgia for Hendo and ...... O never mind. If you want to have fun on a flyer on Hendo via TKO then so be it. My biggest play on the card is Mousasi straight. But as I said before Aliev, Tumenov, Erokhin & Amirkhani should win. GL!
                          On the same picks.. Also don't think Hendo lands the H-Bomb this go around... Still, that H-Bomb prop is very tempting though, I can't lie...

                          Sat 1/24 1129 Henderson wins by TKO/KO <input id="checkboxx" name="M1_47" type="checkBox">+1075

                          I already hit Mousasi straight and in parlay's but I like this prop as the safe play for this fight as I do think someone gets stopped before that final bell sounds one way or the other.. -135 value isn't that bad either...

                          10:30PM 1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance <input id="radiox" value="M2_34" name="radiox" type="radio">-135
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                          • Imsmarterthanu
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
                            Agree with everything you said except Hendo. No way Hendo wins this fight mate. If you take away your nostalgia for Hendo and ...... O never mind. If you want to have fun on a flyer on Hendo via TKO then so be it. My biggest play on the card is Mousasi straight. But as I said before Aliev, Tumenov, Erokhin & Amirkhani should win. GL!
                            I just feel that Mousasi uses his jab a lot and Hendo loves that overhand right and the overhand right is the perfect counter to a jab. That and Mousasi's takedown defense has always been suspect .That's why i give him better odds than that and a small play on him wouldn't hurt IMO Hendo is just off the TRT now and ever since he's been off the trt his age has really shown but i can't really count him out he has beast power.
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                            • oddtodd
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                              • 09-04-12
                              • 231

                              #49
                              I think its Mousasi by Dec. He even stated thats how he pictures the fight will end in a recent interview - he also added that if he gets on top he thinks hell finish it. I think dropping down to 185 is good for Henderson in terms of cardio and strength and his chin has always been very solid. Mous will domintate the fight though and I think he really wants to make up for his performace against Jacre and what better opponent to look good against. The only finish I can see is Mous pummeling Hendo to the ground with strikes then locking in a RNC in the third round. I've already taken Mous by dec. at 3.0 (+200) and straight in some parlays. If I add anything else it'll be a finish in the 3rd .
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                              • Thor4140
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                                • 02-09-08
                                • 22296

                                #50
                                Henderson needs to retire. Just fighting for checks now. His game hasn't evolved in ten years. Same old marching around to land a big punch. I was one of his biggest fans but it is time to go. His lucky punch against Shogun was him pulling a horseshoe out of his ass. His last performance agaianst Cormier was terrible. This will be the same Hendo fight we have seen for years but the slower version of Hendo. When it is over we will say the same thing we have been saying for ten years "why doesn't Hendo use his wrestling" He has been so caught up with this H Bomb that he has neglected his wrestling for years. If this was five rounds i would be all over Mousasi but a three rounder has a good shot at a decision. Mous isn't getting caught with that slow H Bomb. To smart for that.
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                                • JIBBBY
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                                  • 12-10-09
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                                  #51
                                  Hendo gasses out late and then gets dropped is my guess.. Hendo likes to stand and bang so the lay and pray is not likely to happen... Mousasi might get taken down but Hendo has no ground and pound skills, won't advance his position and the ref will stand it back up...
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                                  • brooks85
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                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 44709

                                    #52
                                    lol anyone watching the weighin

                                    no sound and then it comes on

                                    rogan - "calm down when you're talking to me"
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                                    • Imsmarterthanu
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                                      #53
                                      hendo looking old and small
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                                      • marzwoody
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                        hendo looking old and small
                                        Like your cack
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                                        • JIBBBY
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                                          • 83686

                                          #55
                                          Checking the weigh ins now...
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                                          • Imsmarterthanu
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by marzwoody
                                            Like your cack
                                            but he can still pack a punch like my cack too just ask your sister
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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              • 12-10-09
                                              • 83686

                                              #57
                                              All the main players made weight including Rumble Johnson.. That's a good sign for Rumble...

                                              Results -

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                                              • Sacrelicious
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by marzwoody
                                                Like your cack
                                                Best post on this entire thread.
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  • 12-10-09
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                                  hendo looking old and small
                                                  44 years old and 185 at weigh ins.. Too be expected.. Hendo is gonna need a miracle....

                                                  Mousasi age 29 and in his prime... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Gegard-Mousasi-7466
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                                                  • marzwoody
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                                                    Best post on this entire thread.
                                                    Best post of this century?
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                                                    • Imsmarterthanu
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by marzwoody
                                                      Best post of this century?
                                                      don't push your luck pal
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                                                      • PaperTrail07
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                                                        • 08-29-08
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                                                        #62
                                                        i will always go w Musoke----he almost got the nod over KG and I feel his length will help here....both fighters are under rated -HELLLL OF A FIGHT----musoke can get up when taken down-and has a hell of a ground game
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        I'm going with Turmenov myself at -135 straight... Haven't ruled out an under rounds bet yet either...

                                                        Sat 1/24 1401 Nico Musoke <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="M1_4">+115 <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="L1_4">o1½ -185
                                                        7:30PM 1402 Albert Tumenov <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="M2_4">-135 <input name="radiox" id="radiox" type="radio" value="L2_4">u1½ +155

                                                        This Russian is just running thru opponents lately and he could run right thru Musoke... 3 fights into the UFC and Turmenov has 2 KO's in his last 2 wins.. Impressive... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Albert-Tumenov-60198


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                                                        4. How good can Albert Tumenov truly be?

                                                        Following an unsuccessful UFC debut that saw Albert Tumenov lose a very close split decision to Ildemar Alcantara, the Russian has seemingly decided to not allow judges to determine his future inside the Octagon.

                                                        After two straight knockout victories, Tumenov is taking on hometown favorite Nico Musoke in the main event of the "Prelims" this Saturday on FOX Sports 1 (FS1).
                                                        Tumenov came into UFC with a highly-touted striking arsenal, and he has proven to be even better than many expected. Considering Tumenov is only 23 years old, the sky is the limit for the welterweight prospect.
                                                        If Tumenov runs through Musoke in Sweden, expect the Russian to take a big step up in competition his next time out.
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                                                        • PaperTrail07
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                                                          #63
                                                          Robertson by TKO....Musoke w the decision...Ogle by Cardio decision.....
                                                          Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                                          Sultan Aliev very boring fighter but gorilla strong Robertson won't be able to out grapple him money

                                                          Albert Tumenov very fluid striking and excellent power money

                                                          Constantin Erokhin not very diverse in skill but EXTREMELY dangerous power Money

                                                          Makwan Amirkhani dangerous on the ground , ogle is average Money

                                                          Dan Henderson post TRT power is the last thing to go and his wrestling base makes me believe the odds are off he is very difficult to defeat good for a small bet
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                                                          • mirinquads
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                                                            #64
                                                            No papertrail.. just no.
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                                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                                              #65
                                                              lol what do you think Mirin>? I will 100% bet against anyone who lost to Doug the penetrating Rhino Marshall at any point in their career--LOL....and Musoke has potential like a MF'er...
                                                              Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                              No papertrail.. just no.
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                                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                                #66
                                                                Content w those picks GL Mirin
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                                                                • PaperTrail07
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  and after that Pendred Spencer Fight....If I am EVER 50/50 Im going w the home guy LOL....that STILL burns me today....so ******
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    All bets are in.. A few more props I hit...

                                                                    Pending1/24/15 8:30pm Props Fighting 1211 Davis wins by 3 round decision +100*

                                                                    Pending1/24/15 10:30pm Props Fighting 1104 Fight won't go 3 round distance -125* <small>vs</small> Henderson / Mousasi goes 3 rnd distance

                                                                    Pending1/24/15 8:00pm Props Fighting 1304 Fight won't go 3 round distance -155* <small>vs</small> Corassani / Sicilia goes 3 rnd distance
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                                                                    • plekz
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                      lol what do you think Mirin>? I will 100% bet against anyone who lost to Doug the penetrating Rhino Marshall at any point in their career--LOL....and Musoke has potential like a MF'er...
                                                                      Musoke get's rocked bad in every single fight he's been in, only exception is the last fight in which he spent 15 minutes dryhumping a guy against a cage wall. If Tumenov connects he'll wake up in the hospital.
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                                                                      • mirinquads
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                                        lol what do you think Mirin>? I will 100% bet against anyone who lost to Doug the penetrating Rhino Marshall at any point in their career--LOL....and Musoke has potential like a MF'er...
                                                                        Aliev should have won that fight, one of the most talked about robberies back then.
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