UFC Fight Night: Munoz vs. Mousasi (May 31, 2014)

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  • MD
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    • 01-31-12
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    #36
    Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
    The question is whether or not Vaughan Lee is near top-tier.
    Of course not. No one would touch Lee if it were a pick 'em; it's a matter of how far Lee is from Alcantara's level.

    In my opinion, pretty far. I'd probably take Alcantara at this point.
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    • bjpenn85
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      • 02-17-11
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      #37
      I also see value one Vaughan Lee, but i wouldnt buy him at evens. im banking on a faulty dec by the judges or a very close fight where vaughan lee give it all he got. I believe V.Lee will show up in this fight.
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      • marzwoody
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        #38
        He looked great against phan. great movement and footwork.
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        • bjpenn85
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          • 02-17-11
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          #39
          improved and full of enthusiasm, not exactly what i would call alcantaras last performance. +300 its off so im going to give vaughan lee the respect he has earned. Probably going to loose but, could be close if the fight stays standing. I mean, not long ago he was neck crancked and after that he was was arm bared so hes not exactly a world beater.
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          • Vaughany
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            • 03-07-10
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            #40
            My striking has come on leaps and bounds....ill soon have the best standup on planet-earth
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            • goodfellas433
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              • 07-16-12
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              #41
              Lawler vs brown announced. Fotn....without even knowing the competition.
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              • goodfellas433
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                #42
                My balls...should have posted that on the news thread.
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                • Vaughany
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                  • 03-07-10
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                  #43
                  you are on Thor's hitlist now
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                  • MD
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                    • 01-31-12
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                    you are on Thor's hitlist now
                    Should have posted this in Thor's hitlist thread.

                    You're on Thor's hitlist now.











                    wait, fuckk
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                    • Vaughany
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                      #45
                      ha SHIIT
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                      • Grabaka
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                        • 02-19-11
                        • 3216

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                        My striking has come on leaps and bounds....ill soon have the best standup on planet-earth
                        Vagwanni Lee is garbaggeeeeeyyyy.....whole team is garbajaaaayyy too...



                        Ill play it. FOCK ET!
                        Dont bury us again cabron
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                        • mmaed
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                          • 11-25-11
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by MD
                          You think that the guy with no striking who only wrestles is going to focus on taking down the unbelievable striker with suspect takedown defence?

                          I would venture that you are correct good sir.

                          Dunno if I agree with the guy saying that Munoz can't hold Mousasi down; I think he certainly can, fight only gets worse for Mousasi as it goes on, though his chances are already incredibly high to begin with.
                          Why do you think it only gets worse for mousasi?
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                          • MD
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by mmaed
                            Why do you think it only gets worse for mousasi?
                            Why wouldn't it?
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              • 12-10-09
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by goodfellas433
                              Lawler vs brown announced. Fotn....without even knowing the competition.
                              Yep.. Should be a good fight, both fighters are peaking right now...
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                              • marzwoody
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by MD
                                Why wouldn't it?
                                Bet on mousassi and lose another 10gs brah? :>D
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                                • marzwoody
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                                  #51
                                  I'm betting big on munoz he will take him down and control him , enjoy losing money playaz
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                                  • Wilbo86
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                                    • 01-22-14
                                    • 753

                                    #52
                                    Personally i think its more likely to get worse for Munoz...
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                                    • MD
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Wilbo86
                                      Personally i think its more likely to get worse for Munoz...
                                      You think that it's more likely that Gegard wins the fifth round than the first round, if the fight goes the distance?
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                                      • TheCalculator
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                                        #54
                                        As far as Munoz goes -- it's all about the weigh-ins and cell-tech IMO.
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                                        • Wilbo86
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by MD
                                          You think that it's more likely that Gegard wins the fifth round than the first round, if the fight goes the distance?
                                          I can't see it getting that far, but yes.
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                                          • MD
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Wilbo86
                                            I can't see it getting that far, but yes.
                                            I think you're really, really wrong. Hope you're right though, since I'm on Gegard.
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                                            • Wilbo86
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by MD
                                              I think you're really, really wrong. Hope you're right though, since I'm on Gegard.
                                              Now I'm kind of hopping it goes the distance so we can see...

                                              Whats your reasoning? Gegard is a very good pesure fighter standing, and if he's on his back he should be able to shut down offence without expending much energy. He did far more damage from bottow against king mo, and Munoz isn't comprable in my opinion. Eitherway I see Munoz having to work harder throughout the fight. Also Munoz is getting on.

                                              I'll preface all this with the fact that I'm pulling all this from memory as I'm currently travelling and don't have the opportunity to watch much tape.
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                                              • MD
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Wilbo86
                                                Now I'm kind of hopping it goes the distance so we can see...

                                                Whats your reasoning? Gegard is a very good pesure fighter standing, and if he's on his back he should be able to shut down offence without expending much energy. He did far more damage from bottow against king mo, and Munoz isn't comprable in my opinion. Eitherway I see Munoz having to work harder throughout the fight. Also Munoz is getting on.

                                                I'll preface all this with the fact that I'm pulling all this from memory as I'm currently travelling and don't have the opportunity to watch much tape.
                                                I don't want to share my reasoning. I thought it would be pretty widely discussed, but it's not, so I'm going to keep it private. We're definitely on opposite ends of the spectrum though.
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                                                • Wilbo86
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                                                  • 01-22-14
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by MD
                                                  I don't want to share my reasoning. I thought it would be pretty widely discussed, but it's not, so I'm going to keep it private. We're definitely on opposite ends of the spectrum though.
                                                  Sounds juicy, feel free PM me a morsel.
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                    #60
                                                    I'm on Munoz for a small bet just because of the value, doesn't necessarily mean I think he will win the fight though..

                                                    Like I said before I give Munoz a chance even at age 36.. Yipes!!!!! Mousasi 28.... Hmmm?
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                                                    • mmaed
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Wilbo86
                                                      Sounds juicy, feel free PM me a morsel.
                                                      Well if it makes it to round five theres a good chance munoz has been able to force a wrestling match because he most likely gets stopped if it is primarily a standup affair. Either that or gegard gasses first i guess. I personally see munoz having a lot of trouble closing the distance without getting tagged a lot. Gegard did a number on latifi. I could see it going a lot like that with a early or even late round finish of munoz.
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                                                      • Wilbo86
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        I'm on Munoz for a small bet just because of the value, doesn't necessarily mean I think he will win the fight though..

                                                        Like I said before I give Munoz a chance even at age 36.. Yipes!!!!! Mousasi 28.... Hmmm?
                                                        8 years younger and over twice as many professional fighs
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          • 12-10-09
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Wilbo86
                                                          8 years younger and over twice as many professional fighs
                                                          Yep.. Mousasi is the better striker with a slightly longer reach too..

                                                          Everything is telling me Munoz is going to get slaughtered and dropped standing, but that little thing called wrestling favors Munoz, and Munoz has fought the best and does have power in his wild looping punches so just maybe???..

                                                          Those odds are so tempting so I figure play a little on Munoz and see what sticks!!!. I'll gamble...
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                                                          • Vaughany
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                                                            #64
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                                                            • Vaughany
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by MD
                                                              I don't want to share my reasoning. I thought it would be pretty widely discussed, but it's not, so I'm going to keep it private. We're definitely on opposite ends of the spectrum though.
                                                              Munoz is a chubby 50 year old Filipino who will gas out diving in for telegraphed takedowns whilst getting jabbed for 5 rounds?
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                                                              • Vaughany
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                                                                #66
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                                                                • Vaughany
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                                                                  #67
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    • 12-10-09
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    ^^^I have no confidence in CB Dollaway going into this fight what so ever now Vaughaneeeey..

                                                                    I don't believe he has the tools to beat Francis Carmont simply put.. Carmont is going to bust him up standing I think, he's too strong and athletic to be taken down and held there. If he doesn't drop CB standing at some point he will probably out point him for a decision victory.... Carmont has the better chin too if anything else..

                                                                    CB will be one dog I will not be playing on this card...
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                                                                    • Ron_Paul_2012
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Niklas Backstrom anyone?


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                                                                      • Skel
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        On Carmont by decision +225.
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