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  • PunisherIND
    SBR MVP
    • 02-24-11
    • 4983

    #1
    Bellator 102
  • ArchieUD
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-11-13
    • 130

    #2
    Favorites are getting hammered. Damnit, did someone drop the win ratio for last event or what?
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    • Sacrelicious
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-29-12
      • 5984

      #3
      Managed to get -270 on Parlo, he was up as high as -500 at some places this morning, craziness.
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      • MD
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-31-12
        • 9728

        #4
        Lavar/Queerfolks u1.5 -120. My only good grab.
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        • Boddhissatva
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 04-10-09
          • 655

          #5
          anyone find value in Godbeer? Anyone who can throw a punch stands a chance to upset/defeat Kongo.
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          • MMAJOE
            SBR Sharp
            • 05-08-08
            • 284

            #6
            Originally posted by Boddhissatva
            anyone find value in Godbeer? Anyone who can throw a punch stands a chance to upset/defeat Kongo.
            Yeah besides having a cool name Godbeer.There is some value in him .Kongo has not shown a chin lately and he is older now . Godbeerhas 6 tko/ko on his 8-1 record but i really doubt he has the Roy Nelson,Mark Hunt,Pat barry Power that dropped Kongo.I see Kongo scoring the Tko/Ko ground or standing and if he gets in trouble he will try to use his wrestling like the Travis Brown fight. a small play would not be bad on him or a hedge parlay with him in it.I would actually liked to see Lavar Johnson vs Kongo and that will probably happen soon if they both win
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            • OracleAdam
              SBR Hustler
              • 09-28-13
              • 63

              #7
              I was on the fence with both of these bets, but in the end decided they were worth it.


              1. Mikkel Parlo (-300) over Jason Butcher. Risking 4.5 units to win 1.5.

              Parlo looked good and tough in his last fight against Rogers, and should be able to beat Butcher. He's a young guy, only 23, and with these young guys they improve substantially every fight. It's also actually good he's had a loss to learn from. Especially young fighters need a loss to help them reflect on their weaknesses and come back stronger.


              Butcher is 7-0 in his pro career, but he has only fought cans for the most part. His last fight was against an old ju-jitsu legend who retired after that fight. His only decent win was submitting Jared Combs who was subsequently KOed by Parlo.


              2. Parlo/Butcher o1.5 (+105). Risking 2.25 units to win 2.25.


              At first I wasn't sure about this bet, but then I figure the line is too good to pass up. I think both fighters usually engage in a feeling out process in the beginning. Parlo doesn't have much one punch knockout power that I've seen. Even if he rocks Butcher in the first round, he can recover in between rounds.
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              • fitguy67
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 03-13-11
                • 5082

                #8
                Originally posted by OracleAdam

                Parlo/Butcher o1.5 (+105).


                At first I wasn't sure about this bet, but then I figure the line is too good to pass up. I think both fighters usually engage in a feeling out process in the beginning. Parlo doesn't have much one punch knockout power that I've seen. Even if he rocks Butcher in the first round, he can recover in between rounds.
                just bought into this at +115 at Pinny...God Bless Non-American Residence!
                ___________
                Other books good-to-have for occasionally-outstanding MMA-line-shopping (available to those not stuck in the land of the free) are: matchbook (low cuz a bettor-to-bettor exchange with MUCH lower commissions than apply to most at BetFair) , william-hill (with at least one sore-thumb "stale price" bargain on each card)...5d/pinny are definitely your main books for MMA but having a growing stable of secondary books helps the ka-ching-building effort along.
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                • ArchieUD
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 04-11-13
                  • 130

                  #9
                  I'm making a play on Anthony Leone. I'd say his sub.defense will be enough more times than current odds implies, and think he has a more than decent chance to capture the decision victory here.
                  Also, in the minor leagues I'm liking Ivan Buchinger and Leeroy Barnes, esp. at current padddy odds.
                  Good luck everyone this weekend
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                  • Rubber Guard
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-22-11
                    • 1550

                    #10
                    Lavar -200 all day
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                    • Dwil125
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-08-12
                      • 2048

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MMAJOE
                      Yeah besides having a cool name Godbeer.There is some value in him .Kongo has not shown a chin lately and he is older now . Godbeerhas 6 tko/ko on his 8-1 record but i really doubt he has the Roy Nelson,Mark Hunt,Pat barry Power that dropped Kongo.I see Kongo scoring the Tko/Ko ground or standing and if he gets in trouble he will try to use his wrestling like the Travis Brown fight. a small play would not be bad on him or a hedge parlay with him in it.I would actually liked to see Lavar Johnson vs Kongo and that will probably happen soon if they both win
                      Are you playing the u1.5?
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                      • 21jumpstreet
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 08-24-13
                        • 234

                        #12
                        Lavar Johnson got knocked the F out!
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                        • Ben Fowlkes
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 09-30-13
                          • 3

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                          Lavar -200 all day
                          Nice call, bro.
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                          • OracleAdam
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 09-28-13
                            • 63

                            #14
                            Parlo for the decision!

                            Originally posted by fitguy67
                            just bought into this at +115 at Pinny...God Bless Non-American Residence!
                            ___________
                            Other books good-to-have for occasionally-outstanding MMA-line-shopping (available to those not stuck in the land of the free) are: matchbook (low cuz a bettor-to-bettor exchange with MUCH lower commissions than apply to most at BetFair) , william-hill (with at least one sore-thumb "stale price" bargain on each card)...5d/pinny are definitely your main books for MMA but having a growing stable of secondary books helps the ka-ching-building effort along.
                            Hey, nice win! I plan to spread out into other books once my bankroll improves and i can withdraw on one site to deposit on another. In the long run it will definitely be worth it to go line-shopping.
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                            • OracleAdam
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 09-28-13
                              • 63

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rubber Guard
                              Lavar -200 all day
                              Did you do your due diligence on the other guy or are you just a Big Johnson fan?
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                              • Crassus
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-08-12
                                • 1538

                                #16
                                Originally posted by OracleAdam
                                Did you do your due diligence on the other guy or are you just a Big Johnson fan?
                                Spartan got dropped hard by Holota and destroyed by Volkov, it's not the craziest thought that a guy like Lavar would tap that chin.
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                                • OracleAdam
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 09-28-13
                                  • 63

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Crassus
                                  Spartan got dropped hard by Holota and destroyed by Volkov, it's not the craziest thought that a guy like Lavar would tap that chin.
                                  Spartan is a great athlete and moves quick for a guy his size. He took Volkov down twice in the first round and once in the 2nd. I was just wondering why bet on Lavar at -200. I didn't bet either way.

                                  You also have to take into account the ability of fighters to improve. At Lavar's age, he is on his way down from here. Whereas at 30, Spartan is young enough to improve from fight to fight.
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                                  • apeterlives
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 11-26-10
                                    • 572

                                    #18
                                    Hindsight is 20/20, but that's been a theme in these recent Bellators for sure with the aging slightly overvalued vet. Tough stretch for Lavar though after losing twice, steroid trouble, getting booted from UFC, and now .
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                                    • NunyaBidness
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-26-09
                                      • 9345

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by OracleAdam
                                      Spartan is a great athlete and moves quick for a guy his size. He took Volkov down twice in the first round and once in the 2nd. I was just wondering why bet on Lavar at -200. I didn't bet either way.

                                      You also have to take into account the ability of fighters to improve. At Lavar's age, he is on his way down from here. Whereas at 30, Spartan is young enough to improve from fight to fight.
                                      My god, stop. Don't recall you stating any of this before the fight.

                                      Every post you make is about young fighters improving, we get it. Change your avatar to this please:

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                                      • OracleAdam
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 09-28-13
                                        • 63

                                        #20
                                        [QUOTE=NunyaBidness;19818688]My god, stop. Don't recall you stating any of this before the fight.

                                        It's important to discuss fights before and after they happen. I take this seriously. If there's something that I said before, that applies to this particular fight, then it's worth repeating in regards to this fight.
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                                        • rosietop
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 09-08-13
                                          • 200

                                          #21
                                          This OracleIdontgiveaDam Dude is really starting to get on my nerves.
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                                          • The iron sheik
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-17-13
                                            • 1105

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by OracleAdam
                                            It's important to discuss fights before and after they happen. I take this seriously. If there's something that I said before, that applies to this particular fight, then it's worth repeating in regards to this fight.
                                            What did you say about this particular fight before this particular fight happened?
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                                            • OracleAdam
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 09-28-13
                                              • 63

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                              What did you say about this particular fight before this particular fight happened?
                                              I didn't say anything about this fight before it happened. But I wish I had researched it more. I was discussing it now but I think I've said enough, I don't want to ruffle people's feathers since I"m new to this forum.
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                                              • The iron sheik
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-17-13
                                                • 1105

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by OracleAdam
                                                I didn't say anything about this fight before it happened. But I wish I had researched it more. I was discussing it now but I think I've said enough, I don't want to ruffle people's feathers since I"m new to this forum.
                                                A friendly suggestion: offering hindsight wisdom to someone who posted a losing bet isn't probably the best way to go if you do not wish to ruffle people's feathers.
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                                                • Vaughany
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                  • 45563

                                                  #25
                                                  I always though an "Oracle" was all about predicting the future? Or are you putting a ironic swing on things and predicting the past?!
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                                                  • Thor4140
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-09-08
                                                    • 22296

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                    My god, stop. Don't recall you stating any of this before the fight.

                                                    Every post you make is about young fighters improving, we get it. Change your avatar to this please:

                                                    Well i guess i shouldn't post this but fuk it. I was dying to load up on Lavars opponent but kept to my rule of not betting guys blindly since i never heard of the guy. I did check his record and only saw one sub cause i know Lavar is the quickest tapper in MMA history. Lavar is noting but another big puncher of a can who wins one once in awhile and i guess against guys his own size he never wins. I wish i saw his opponent had a few subs and i would have broken one of my rules just like that record.
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                                                    • Thor4140
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-09-08
                                                      • 22296

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by apeterlives
                                                      Hindsight is 20/20, but that's been a theme in these recent Bellators for sure with the aging slightly overvalued vet. Tough stretch for Lavar though after losing twice, steroid trouble, getting booted from UFC, and now .
                                                      nice straight right. Looks like the guy has Weidmans mannerisms
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                                                      • NunyaBidness
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                        • 9345

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                        Well i guess i shouldn't post this but fuk it. I was dying to load up on Lavars opponent but kept to my rule of not betting guys blindly since i never heard of the guy. I did check his record and only saw one sub cause i know Lavar is the quickest tapper in MMA history. Lavar is noting but another big puncher of a can who wins one once in awhile and i guess against guys his own size he never wins. I wish i saw his opponent had a few subs and i would have broken one of my rules just like that record.
                                                        I don't think there's anything wrong with past-posting your thoughts on a fight, it's these 'told you so' style posts from guys who didn't tell you so.
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                                                        • Grabaka
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-19-11
                                                          • 3216

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                          I always though an "Oracle" was all about predicting the future? Or are you putting a ironic swing on things and predicting the past?!
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                                                          • Educ8d Degener8
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-12-10
                                                            • 3177

                                                            #30
                                                            Speaking of hindsight posts... I hope some of you sharpies grabbed Anthony Hamilton yesterday against Smealinho... I had the bet screen up on dimes, went to take a sh*t, grabbed a beer... came back and my bet got rejected 'cos the fight had already started. Poor time management, aw well... was only gonna throw a Filkins on it anyway.
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #31
                                                              Always knew he'd make a decent MMA fighter

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                                                              • OracleAdam
                                                                SBR Hustler
                                                                • 09-28-13
                                                                • 63

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                I always though an "Oracle" was all about predicting the future? Or are you putting a ironic swing on things and predicting the past?!
                                                                I'm called the "Oracle" for a reason. Just keep watching my predictions and you'll see why.
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                                                                • Vaughany
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 03-07-10
                                                                  • 45563

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by OracleAdam
                                                                  I'm called the "Oracle" for a reason. Just keep watching my predictions and you'll see why.
                                                                  I like your confidence kid. You remind me of a young Chandler Blades


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                                                                  • Educ8d Degener8
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-12-10
                                                                    • 3177

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I think he has "oracle" confused with "orifice".
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                                                                    • MD
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-31-12
                                                                      • 9728

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by OracleAdam
                                                                      I'm called the "Oracle" for a reason.
                                                                      Because you typed "Oracle" in the registration box. But hey, if that's how it works, then I'm taking over Wannabet's post as SBR's resident doctor.

                                                                      Originally posted by OracleAdam
                                                                      Just keep watching my predictions and you'll see why.
                                                                      Indeed. It's almost uncanny how you can predict things that have already happened.
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