UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson (September 21, 2013)

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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
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    • 08-25-08
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    #1
    UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson (September 21, 2013)


    MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET)
    Jon Jones vs. Alexander Gustafsson - for light-heavyweight title
    Renan Barao vs. Eddie Wineland - for interim bantamweight title
    Matt Mitrione vs. Brendan Schaub
    Francis Carmont vs. Constantinos Philippou
    Pat Healy vs. Khabib Nurmagomedov

    PRELIMINARY CARD (FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET)
    Myles Jury vs. Mike Ricci
    Ivan Menjivar vs. Wilson Reis
    Chris Clements vs. Stephen Thompson
    Mitch Gagnon vs. Dustin Kimura

    PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook, 6 p.m. ET)
    Renee Forte vs. John Makdessi
    Michel Prazeres vs. Jesse Ronson
    Alex Caceres vs. Roland Delorme
    Nandor Guelmino vs. Daniel Omielanczuk

  • Das Jax
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-23-11
    • 904

    #2
    Other than the title fight, that is one weak looking card.
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    • Thor4140
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      • 02-09-08
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      #3
      Originally posted by Das Jax
      Other than the title fight, that is one weak looking card.
      They do this shit all the time with Jones fighting. I guess they have short memories of when it bit them in the ass
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      • Thor4140
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        • 02-09-08
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        #4
        anyone want to take a guess on what the odds on the Carmont fight. Philippou should knock his ass out or they gonna give Carmont another gift? The real line should be Philippou -250. The line will be Carmont -140.
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        • MD
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          #5
          Originally posted by Thor4140
          anyone want to take a guess on what the odds on the Carmont fight. Philippou should knock his ass out or they gonna give Carmont another gift? The real line should be Philippou -250. The line will be Carmont -140.
          Philippou will be at least -150 I think. I predict -235.
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          • Beelzebubzy
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            #6
            Caceres vs Delorme is the line I am most looking forward to.
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            • visualrealism
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              • 10-13-11
              • 880

              #7
              Gustafsson!!
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              • Vaughany
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                • 03-07-10
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                #8
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                • Vaughany
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                  anyone want to take a guess on what the odds on the Carmont fight. Philippou should knock his ass out or they gonna give Carmont another gift? The real line should be Philippou -250. The line will be Carmont -140.

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                  • Luca Fury
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                    #10
                    I love how the commercial for this card is like "Oh, Gustafsson is 1 inch taller than Jones! Therefore he can hit Jon without getting hit himself!!!"

                    Um, no… Jones still has an 8 inch reach advantage.

                    The whole angle of the commercial is to show Jones is facing a bigger and rangier fighter, yet that is not even close to being true. UFC commercials having been getting worse and worse for a couple years now. It's gotten to the point where they're just obnoxious white noise. I remember back when they used to be awesome and stylish, and actually got me excited for the fights. Those were the days………
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                    • mirinquads
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                      Caceres vs Delorme is the line I am most looking forward to.
                      who do you like?
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                      • Vaughany
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                        • 03-07-10
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mirinquads
                        who do you like?
                        Reinhardt tko
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                        • mirinquads
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                          #13


                          You ready for pain?
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                          • Vaughany
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                            #14
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                            • Beelzebubzy
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mirinquads
                              who do you like?
                              what are teh odds?
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                              • plekz
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                I love how the commercial for this card is like "Oh, Gustafsson is 1 inch taller than Jones! Therefore he can hit Jon without getting hit himself!!!"

                                Um, no… Jones still has an 8 inch reach advantage.

                                The whole angle of the commercial is to show Jones is facing a bigger and rangier fighter, yet that is not even close to being true. UFC commercials having been getting worse and worse for a couple years now. It's gotten to the point where they're just obnoxious white noise. I remember back when they used to be awesome and stylish, and actually got me excited for the fights. Those were the days………
                                No, Jones doesn't have any '8 inch' reach advantage you uneducated american cumstain, it's phucking laughable that a person that tries to make a living betting on the sport takes shit from a company that benifits from skewing facts AT FACE VALUE, 'tale of the tape' and the shit listed there is make belief.

                                At most Jones will have 1-2 inches worth of reach on Gustafsson.

                                And size wise they are very similar, Jones has wider shoulders but on the flipside Gustafsson has wider hips and much more muscular legs.

                                Gustafsson is also most definetly a much better boxer then Jones, and his footwork is far and away superior, he cuts angles and throws punches of all sorts from very awkward directions.

                                This fight basicly comes down to wether or not Gustafsson can stuff TD's or not, if he can then this is much closer then it seems on paper.

                                I think this fight easily goes past three rounds considering the beard Gustafsson has.
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                                • Beelzebubzy
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                                  #17
                                  Plekz is the new gabe.
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                                  • plekz
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                                    #18
                                    ^



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                                    • Vaughany
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                                      • 03-07-10
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by plekz
                                      No, Jones doesn't have any '8 inch' reach advantage you uneducated american cumstain, it's phucking laughable that a person that tries to make a living betting on the sport takes shit from a company that benifits from skewing facts AT FACE VALUE, 'tale of the tape' and the shit listed there is make belief.

                                      At most Jones will have 1-2 inches worth of reach on Gustafsson.

                                      And size wise they are very similar, Jones has wider shoulders but on the flipside Gustafsson has wider hips and much more muscular legs.

                                      Gustafsson is also most definetly a much better boxer then Jones, and his footwork is far and away superior, he cuts angles and throws punches of all sorts from very awkward directions.

                                      This fight basicly comes down to wether or not Gustafsson can stuff TD's or not, if he can then this is much closer then it seems on paper.

                                      I think this fight easily goes past three rounds considering the beard Gustafsson has.
                                      superb
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                                      • Thor4140
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                                        • 02-09-08
                                        • 22296

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by plekz
                                        No, Jones doesn't have any '8 inch' reach advantage you uneducated american cumstain, it's phucking laughable that a person that tries to make a living betting on the sport takes shit from a company that benifits from skewing facts AT FACE VALUE, 'tale of the tape' and the shit listed there is make belief.

                                        At most Jones will have 1-2 inches worth of reach on Gustafsson.

                                        And size wise they are very similar, Jones has wider shoulders but on the flipside Gustafsson has wider hips and much more muscular legs.

                                        Gustafsson is also most definetly a much better boxer then Jones, and his footwork is far and away superior, he cuts angles and throws punches of all sorts from very awkward directions.

                                        This fight basicly comes down to wether or not Gustafsson can stuff TD's or not, if he can then this is much closer then it seems on paper.

                                        I think this fight easily goes past three rounds considering the beard Gustafsson has.
                                        Hey im American and i find that insulting in a way. I think u might have been a little soft. We now have heard of a 7 inch reach advantage and now it is up to eight. By fight time it might be ten
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                                        • Thor4140
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                          i rarely click on ur clips when i see names like Alex Jones in them but i have to ask. Are u bashing me again? Don't you know i am now an SBR Pro?
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                                          • plekz
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                                            • 07-28-13
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                            Hey im American and i find that insulting in a way. I think u might have been a little soft. We now have heard of a 7 inch reach advantage and now it is up to eight. By fight time it might be ten
                                            Then say no to ignorant useless pieces of shit and pack LF and the rest of the people like him together and just vote them off the phucking island. I mean the fact someone like him runs a 'service' that charges people for bet's should be considered criminal behaviour the typical person who wont amount to phuckall in his lifetime.

                                            This internet gig is all he's got.
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                                            • Thor4140
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                                              • 02-09-08
                                              • 22296

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by plekz





                                              This fight basicly comes down to wether or not Gustafsson can stuff TD's or not, if he can then this is much closer then it seems on paper.

                                              I think this fight easily goes past three rounds considering the beard Gustafsson has.
                                              Sadly when Jones takes down world class wrestlers with almost ease i doubt Gus has any chance stopping any of Jones take downs if Jones wants to take him down. I see this fight getting very bloody with Jones landing some big elbows from the top. Still shaping up to be a real good test for Jones. At these odds i wouldn't take Jones but won't be a sucker to take Gus. One of Jones stregths is taking down guys when they don't expect it. Not like these other wrestlers like Badar last night who shot in the first ten seconds.
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                                              • plekz
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                                                • 07-28-13
                                                • 1491

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                Sadly when Jones takes down world class wrestlers with almost ease i doubt Gus has any chance stopping any of Jones take downs if Jones wants to take him down. I see this fight getting very bloody with Jones landing some big elbows from the top. Still shaping up to be a real good test for Jones. At these odds i wouldn't take Jones but won't be a sucker to take Gus. One of Jones stregths is taking down guys when they don't expect it. Not like these other wrestlers like Badar last night who shot in the first ten seconds.
                                                It's not like Jones is gonna have a 'stun ray' he can use to make closing the distance on Gustafsson at will an easy ask in any way, good footwork can very easily negate shoot ability and make clinching very difficult.

                                                And Gustafsson has some of the best footwork in the entire UFC, he's also got very strong hips which makes clinch takedowns a BITCH.
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                                                • Vaughany
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                  i rarely click on ur clips when i see names like Alex Jones in them but i have to ask. Are u bashing me again? Don't you know i am now an SBR Pro?
                                                  just need an excuse to post them brah! ur conspiracy theories are the perfect set up!
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                                                  • rocky16
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                                    I love how the commercial for this card is like "Oh, Gustafsson is 1 inch taller than Jones! Therefore he can hit Jon without getting hit himself!!!"

                                                    Um, no… Jones still has an 8 inch reach advantage.

                                                    The whole angle of the commercial is to show Jones is facing a bigger and rangier fighter, yet that is not even close to being true. UFC commercials having been getting worse and worse for a couple years now. It's gotten to the point where they're just obnoxious white noise. I remember back when they used to be awesome and stylish, and actually got me excited for the fights. Those were the days………

                                                    Yeah they should have a commercial that says Jones has an 8 inch reach advantage and 8 inch cack advantage and how Jones is going to rape that honkie with it. Go back to picking losers phaget.
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                                                    • mmaed
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                                                      #27
                                                      Jones will have a reach advantage on Gustaffson. I doubt the ufc is making up the numbers...Also you shouldn't forget that Gustaffson doesn't throw as many kicks as Jones and will probably avoid doing it in order to avoid being taken down. At least If you want to refer to people as uneducated American @@@stains. Even if Gustaf had a reach advantage with his hands it wont outweigh Jones reach with his legs. Just pure silliness. Throw in the fact that Jones is probably a straight up better striker overall, a much better wrestler, and has the best fight IQ out of just about anyone in the UFC and I see you losing your Gustaffson play.
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                                                      • plekz
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                                                        #28
                                                        mmaed:

                                                        Can give you several examples just at the top of my head where they've claimed shit that has been severly facribated, Carwin being 6'3 comes to mind.

                                                        I also havent advocated any Gustafsson play, but good to know which category you fall under, follow suit with LF and go play in traffic.

                                                        The one thing i have said however is that the '8 inch difference' being claimed is complete horse shit and you look like dumb gullable little phuckin kids gulping that shit up, and aside from that i said that the whole matchup is predicated on if Gustafsson can stuff TD's or not.

                                                        Starting to think the average age here is well in around the lower 20's on alot of you people, considering how complicated you make logical reasoning seem. Naive as phuck.
                                                        Last edited by plekz; 09-05-13, 02:54 PM.
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                                                        • Vaughany
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by plekz
                                                          mmaed:

                                                          Can give you several examples just at the top of my head where they've claimed shit that has been severly facribated, Carwin being 6'3 comes to mind.

                                                          I also havent advocated any Gustafsson play, but good to know which category you fall under, follow suit with LF and go play in traffic.

                                                          The one thing i have said however is that the '8 inch difference' being claimed is complete horse shit and you look like dumb gullable little phuckin kids gulping that shit up, and aside from that i said that the whole matchup is predicated on if Gustafsson can stuff TD's or not.

                                                          Starting to think the average age here is well in around the lower 20's on alot of you people, considering how complicated you make logical reasoning seem.
                                                          Does a person in their 50s have more "logical reasoning" than somebody in their early 20's?
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                                                          • The iron sheik
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by plekz
                                                            No, Jones doesn't have any '8 inch' reach advantage you uneducated american cumstain, it's phucking laughable that a person that tries to make a living betting on the sport takes shit from a company that benifits from skewing facts AT FACE VALUE, 'tale of the tape' and the shit listed there is make belief.

                                                            At most Jones will have 1-2 inches worth of reach on Gustafsson.

                                                            And size wise they are very similar, Jones has wider shoulders but on the flipside Gustafsson has wider hips and much more muscular legs.

                                                            Gustafsson is also most definetly a much better boxer then Jones, and his footwork is far and away superior, he cuts angles and throws punches of all sorts from very awkward directions.

                                                            This fight basicly comes down to wether or not Gustafsson can stuff TD's or not, if he can then this is much closer then it seems on paper.

                                                            I think this fight easily goes past three rounds considering the beard Gustafsson has.
                                                            I was really hoping for a Bel Air ending but it didn't come.

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                                                            • plekz
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                              Does a person in their 50s have more "logical reasoning" than somebody in their early 20's?
                                                              No, but being 'naive' is commonly associated with being 'young' and inexperienced in general, and it's something that very easily because of this can make using simple logical conclusions very difficult when you instead choose to believe shit people tell you, instead of taking a couple of minutes to question how resonable what they are claiming actually sounds.

                                                              Thanks for wasting close to a minute of my life, a minute i shall never get back, oh how i weep for that minute i lost.
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                                                              • Vaughany
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                                                                #32
                                                                haha
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                                                                • Beelzebubzy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Plekz are you Gaberz?

                                                                  This is a conspiracy on this board.

                                                                  syfy will be starting a new show: thor and Rogan Question EVERYTHING 2gether

                                                                  Vaughany is this show the best on planet earth?
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                                                                  • plekz
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Can you soap opera educated 4chan rejects stop using the simplest penetrating 'conclusions' everytime, 'oh hurr durr iz muzt be an old guyz'

                                                                    No i am not 'Gaberz' nor do i have the slightest phucking idea who that even is and i have ZERO intrest to find out either.
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                                                                    • Beelzebubzy
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      if you called me fool, you would have been guilty on the spot homie!
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