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  • Vaughany
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    • 03-07-10
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    #106
    Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
    I think Miocic isn't going to be an easy fight for roy

    roys overhand power hand usually works on guys who are significantly taller than him and guys who throw looping wide punches

    miocic style is similar to velasquez he keeps his punches tight and aimed toward the middle so Roy i think will have to get this one on the ground and use his belly to keep miocic on his back and exhaust him from there he could crucifix him and get a sub.
    yeah wont be easy to take Miocic down
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    • DSSCA
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      • 03-07-12
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      #107
      Originally posted by Vaughany
      Shall make the obvious statement that it very hard to finish Stout!
      I agree that it is tough to finish him, but with someone who is MUCH longer and better on the ground, I will play those odds.
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      • TheCalculator
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        • 10-10-11
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        #108
        Originally posted by NunyaBidness
        I like MD. He makes me look like a nice guy.
        Rumors are flying that you're MD. And MD is you. YOU ARE HIM!
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        • NunyaBidness
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          • 07-26-09
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          #109
          Originally posted by TheCalculator
          Rumors are flying that you're MD. And MD is you. YOU ARE HIM!
          Good, hopefully it was his $5000 I just lost in a cash game, not mine.
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          • mirinquads
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            • 04-22-13
            • 3927

            #110
            Originally posted by DSSCA
            Why is nobody talking about the UFC debut of James Krause? I mean c'mon his nick name is "The James Krause"! Krause coming off a jab-fest destruction of Toby Imada in January and with 8 submissions to his credit. I think he brings a definite threat. His range may prove tough for Stout if he keeps that jab in his face all night. Stout might be the more experienced and stronger fighter, which he could use to his advantage by backing Krause up and bullying him against the cage, but I think there is legitimate value in a +456 ITD for Krause and a +210 just to win. I'll be playing both. Anyone care to share thoughts on this? I did hedge with Stout in a large parlay just in case
            I played him, solely because of his nickname
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            • bjpenn85
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              • 02-17-11
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              #111
              i cant find james krausse vs toby imada, do someone have a link?
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              • PunisherIND
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                • 02-24-11
                • 4979

                #112
                Originally posted by bjpenn85
                i cant find james krausse vs toby imada, do someone have a link?
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                • PunisherIND
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                  • 02-24-11
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by mirinquads
                  I played him, solely because of his nickname
                  lol you guys remember when it was hector "heKtor" lombard? with a "k" to distinguish
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                  • MD
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                    • 01-31-12
                    • 9728

                    #114
                    Krause is good, but I had it 'capped around -240 for Stout; thus, no play. If Krause wins this, it's going to be by decision. Stout is aggressive enough to give Krause fits, and I doubt he's going to just sit at the end of Krause's jab for three rounds. In addition, Krause has questionable fight IQ, and I haven't seen anything to make me think that Stout can't take him down.
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                    • PunisherIND
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                      • 02-24-11
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                      #115
                      Originally posted by bjpenn85
                      i cant find james krausse vs toby imada, do someone have a link?


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                      • rocky16
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                        • 07-22-12
                        • 1905

                        #116
                        Micioc small play. Rashad large play. Tail those, phagets.
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                        • varkolek
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 07-17-11
                          • 230

                          #117
                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                          i cant find james krausse vs toby imada, do someone have a link?
                          You can also download events like a lot of the RFA through torrent sites you get invited to. Possibly through ordinary torrent sites, I've been using piratebay until now but have never searched for minor mma events.

                          DSSCA was kind enough to invite me. I need to donate or contact an administrator to invite someone else. I'm not sure I want to contact an administrator right now since my first attempt at registration worked but then I couldn't login and I think I may have 2 accounts at the moment. I sent them a PM about that but they haven't answered.

                          There's a separate thread where people were talking about where to get footage. If you want to get invited you could ask one of those people.
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                          • Vaughany
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                            • 03-07-10
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                            #118
                            I'm big on Davis...hope this doesn't end up being some crazy Cinderella story! Me thinks Davis will be too big and Sexton will feel the pressure more!...

                            http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/6/13/4428156/rosi-sexton-if-alexis-davis-views-me-as-a-stepping-stone-shes-in-for
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                            • bjpenn85
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                              • 02-17-11
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                              #119
                              cheers. 0 seeds on torrentz.com, so ill probably stay away rom betting jr
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                              • bjpenn85
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                                • 02-17-11
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                                #120
                                im big on davis as first leg of a parlay..need a lock to close it, any suggestions?
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                                • Vaughany
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                                  • 03-07-10
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                                  #121
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                                  • Vaughany
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                                    • 03-07-10
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                                    #122
                                    One of Bigday's hunting buddies interviewing Davis!

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                                    • omalley21
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                                      • 11-08-10
                                      • 908

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                      im big on davis as first leg of a parlay..need a lock to close it, any suggestions?
                                      Jimmo wasn't 100% in his last fight so he gassed. But he shouldve atleast got the draw. Jimmo in canada. Parlay material.
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                                      • Grabaka
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                                        • 02-19-11
                                        • 3216

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                        One of Bigday's hunting buddies interviewing Davis!
                                        lol
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                                        • Grabaka
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                                          • 02-19-11
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                                          #125
                                          V, are you not a fan of Rossi? She seems really cool in the video you posted and the interviews ive been watching.
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                                          • Sykes
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                                            • 06-23-12
                                            • 2714

                                            #126
                                            Weigh-ins are on - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Pabq9sLhe-g
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                                            • Vaughany
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                                              • 03-07-10
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                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Grabaka
                                              V, are you not a fan of Rossi? She seems really cool in the video you posted and the interviews ive been watching.
                                              yeah like her a lot as a person! I was at university with her when she was doing her osteopathy course in Oxford, I interviewed her for a thing I was doing for a module on women in sport as well. But I just dont think she is going to win a fight with Alexis Davis! She is under-sized, was pretty much retired a few months ago and she admitted in her blog (in a round-about way) that she is taking this fight for the money (and obviously the slight chance that she pulls off the upset).
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                                              • Vaughany
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                                                • 03-07-10
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                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by omalley21
                                                Jimmo wasn't 100% in his last fight so he gassed. But he shouldve atleast got the draw. Jimmo in canada. Parlay material.
                                                yeah tempted to play him
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                                                • Vaughany
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                                                  #129
                                                  lol Shields' angry face!
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                                                  • Dwil125
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                                                    • 11-08-12
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                    yeah like her a lot as a person! I was at university with her when she was doing her osteopathy course in Oxford, I interviewed her for a thing I was doing for a module on women in sport as well. But I just dont think she is going to win a fight with Alexis Davis! She is under-sized, was pretty much retired a few months ago and she admitted in her blog (in a round-about way) that she is taking this fight for the money (and obviously the slight chance that she pulls off the upset).
                                                    I wonder why davis weighed in at 134? her actual weight was probably like 133 flat. I think Sexton wont really put on much additional weight tonight though..
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                                                    • bjpenn85
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                                                      • 02-17-11
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                                                      #131
                                                      hmm..true, jimmo can both win inside distance and a decision, but what about pokrajac, can he win a decision? i need to cap this fight
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                                                      • mirinquads
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                                                        #132
                                                        Shields mean face was terrifying.

                                                        And he's actually quite a bit bigger, though he did look a little drawn out. Seemed he lost some muscle which might be a good thing when going to 170
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                                                        • Grabaka
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                                                          • 02-19-11
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany

                                                          yeah like her a lot as a person! I was at university with her when she was doing her osteopathy course in Oxford, I interviewed her for a thing I was doing for a module on women in sport as well. But I just dont think she is going to win a fight with Alexis Davis! She is under-sized, was pretty much retired a few months ago and she admitted in her blog (in a round-about way) that she is taking this fight for the money (and obviously the slight chance that she pulls off the upset).
                                                          Nice my amigo. Yeah i like her as a person too...not trying to bone her or anything like bet on her hehe

                                                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                          lol Shields' angry face!
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                                                          lol That was awful! Shields is such a weirdo...no need to smoke like Diaz.
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                                                          • snapperman2
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                                                            • 08-19-10
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                                                            #134
                                                            I am betting on Jake Shields and Pat Barry. Jake Shields has far more experience than Woodley, better submissions and probably better striking. I think he should be the favorite. Pat Barry has much better striking than Jordan and his takedown defense and ground game have improved a lot, as you can see in his last fight against del Rosario.
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                                                            • MMAbetMASTA
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                                                              • 05-24-11
                                                              • 1931

                                                              #135
                                                              Wanna be cro cop by decision +320
                                                              little rugged mexican itd +340 (or wins in round 1 at +625, but then again delorme is one tough sob).
                                                              awkward shields decision +361
                                                              kraus decision +400

                                                              These guys are all live dogs imo (some are legit with value in str8 up moneyline plays), and think there is serious value in these props.

                                                              Hoping jordan gets further into +odds as well for a str8 play, def like him over barry especially after seeing the post from the dude above... HD already seems a little mentally weird (especially ever since that strange mirko fight and other shit he's said - 'let's be friends while we fight' ), and from that interview he seems to have already taken this fight as a 'no go'...

                                                              Sitting on pierson as well for a str8 play I have been itching to take him.

                                                              Why some of you guys like robertson, especially since he's on short notice in pierson home turf?
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                                                              • DSSCA
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                                                                • 03-07-12
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                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by snapperman2
                                                                Jake Shields has probably better striking.
                                                                Really? Jake Shields doesn't have better striking than a match stick. He went to Thailand a little while back and trained at Tiger MuayThai... That's probably the worst gym you could train at... I remember video of him working on an inside leg kick while an opponent charges. Dude is BASIC! World class grappler, but a better striker, I say not.
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                                                                • Rubber Guard
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                                                                  • 06-22-11
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by DSSCA
                                                                  Really? Jake Shields doesn't have better striking than a match stick. He went to Thailand a little while back and trained at Tiger MuayThai... That's probably the worst gym you could train at... I remember video of him working on an inside leg kick while an opponent charges. Dude is BASIC! World class grappler, but a better striker, I say not.
                                                                  Even with another thumb in the eye, Woodley couldn't out-strike GSP 2 out of 5 rounds.

                                                                  Woodley perhaps holds the power advantage and just explosiveness. Which can be enough to win in a terrible striking battle. And it may here. But as far as almost all other aspects of striking Shields is better. Perhaps Wood is on the roids. Perhaps he has turned the corner and found his game. But 1 KO over Jay Heiron isn't and can't erase the multiple snooze fests laying on anyone with ok striking. Woodley is Phil Davis esque. Wrestler who would love to be that black striker. But absolutely has little experience and feel for striking. Woodley has been an ordinary lay and prayer for 95% of his career.
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                                                                  • MD
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                                                                    • 01-31-12
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by DSSCA
                                                                    Really? Jake Shields doesn't have better striking than a match stick. He went to Thailand a little while back and trained at Tiger MuayThai... That's probably the worst gym you could train at... I remember video of him working on an inside leg kick while an opponent charges. Dude is BASIC! World class grappler, but a better striker, I say not.
                                                                    He has very good cardio and strikes with extremely high volume. I can see why people might think he'll have the striking edge.
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                                                                    • Rubber Guard
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                                                                      • 06-22-11
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      The thing that sways it in Woodley's favor is potential power. If they strike, Woodley will be swinging more from the hip, and he has that black man and wrestler acceleration in movements. Shields has no power and doesn't ever care to swing with power even if he is way down. If anyone is getting rocked it is most likely Shields.

                                                                      In a battle of crappy strikers, power/chin often come into play a bunch. Shields does have a solid chin though.

                                                                      We are talking striking and this will probably end up being a clinch, grind for TD fight anyway.
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                                                                      • CaDDyy
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                                                                        • 11-30-08
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        2u jake shields +170
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