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  • Johnnythunder
    SBR MVP
    • 11-25-10
    • 2161

    #1
    Any reason the hedge this parlay?
    i have Khan -1200 over Diaz
    Martinez -800 over Murray


    These are to close out a 15 leg parlay that pays 800ish

    Whats the danger level here of an upset and which one has the better chance of being upset.
  • NunyaBidness
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    • 07-26-09
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    #2
    Has your opinion on the fights changed since you placed the bet?

    If not, hedging is either a mistake now, or placing the bets into a parlay originally was a mistake.
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    • ArchieUD
      SBR High Roller
      • 04-11-13
      • 130

      #3
      Is 800ish a substantial amount to you? If not, let it ride. Good luck
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      • Johnnythunder
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        • 11-25-10
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        #4
        I know nothing about these fighters. Parlay was for only 10 bucks and i included some big boxing favs...
        are any of them live dogs is what im asking
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        • NunyaBidness
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          • 07-26-09
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          #5
          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
          Has your opinion on the fights changed since you placed the bet?

          If not, hedging is either a mistake now, or placing the bets into a parlay originally was a mistake.
          still this
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          • Johnnythunder
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            • 11-25-10
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            #6
            Anyone with a clue want to chime in please....
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            • MD
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              #7
              Originally posted by Johnnythunder
              I know nothing about these fighters. Parlay was for only 10 bucks and i included some big boxing favs...
              are any of them live dogs is what im asking
              If you were going to hedge out when your parlay got close to hitting, you should have just excluded the last legs from the parlay in the first place. Why pay the juice on both sides?

              The correct move is almost always to let it ride, from a pure +EV perspective.
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              • Johnnythunder
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                • 11-25-10
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                #8
                MD....i know....i put it in hastily while on tilt...looking for someone who has a clue about boxing here in the boxing forum...anyone
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                • NunyaBidness
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                  • 07-26-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Johnnythunder
                  Anyone with a clue want to chime in please....
                  Delicious irony.
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                  • NunyaBidness
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                    • 07-26-09
                    • 9345

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Johnnythunder
                    MD....i know....i put it in hastily while on tilt...looking for someone who has a clue about boxing here in the boxing forum...anyone
                    Khan wins 90% of the time, Martinez wins 85% of the time. The market already told you that.
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                    • Johnnythunder
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                      • 11-25-10
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                      Khan wins 90% of the time, Martinez wins 85% of the time. The market already told you that.
                      And your user name and comments tell me how worthless anything coming out of your mouth is...shut the penetrate up and let someone with a clue interject
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                      • NunyaBidness
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                        • 07-26-09
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Johnnythunder
                        And your user name and comments tell me how worthless anything coming out of your mouth is...shut the penetrate up and let someone with a clue interject
                        Just hedge the parlay like the big pussy you are.

                        Losing your shit over the chance of winning $800.
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                        • MD
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                          • 01-31-12
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Johnnythunder
                          And your user name and comments tell me how worthless anything coming out of your mouth is...shut the penetrate up and let someone with a clue interject
                          I already gave you your answer. If you want to maximize your profitability, let it ride. Nunya's a guy you should listen to, though. Easily the most knowledgeable guy in this subforum.

                          The boxing market thinks that Martinez wins almost 90% of the time, while Khan wins over 90% of the time. The market price is a representation of all of the money on any given side*, +- vig. That is to say, if Khan is -1200, that is because the public, including all of the sharps betting large amounts of money on the fight, and the casuals, as of this point, believe that the fair price for Khan is -1200. That's a far more accurate answer that one or two guys giving you their personal opinion with no way of knowing how reputable it is, don't you think?

                          *To a degree. Books can also take a side and throw the price off a bit.

                          To put it in a way you may understand, the odds of your parlay cashing are about -450, so there's about an 82% chance of winning $800, and an 18% chance of you losing $10 and breaking down and crying like a little girl.
                          Last edited by MD; 04-27-13, 02:24 PM.
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                          • NunyaBidness
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                            • 07-26-09
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by MD
                            I already gave you your answer. If you want to maximize your profitability, let it ride. Nunya's a guy you should listen to, though. Easily the most knowledgeable guy in this subforum.

                            The boxing market thinks that Martinez wins almost 90% of the time, while Khan wins over 90% of the time. The market price is a representation of all of the money on any given side*, +- vig. That is to say, if Khan is -1200, that is because the public, including all of the sharps betting large amounts of money on the fight, and the casuals, as of this point, believe that the fair price for Khan is -1200. That's a far more accurate answer that one or two guys giving you their personal opinion with no way of knowing how reputable it is, don't you think?

                            *To a degree. Books can also take a side and throw the price off a bit.

                            To put it in a way you may understand, the odds of your parlay cashing are about -450.
                            If you would've fit in a way to call him a pussy, I might've nominated this post.
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                            • MD
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                              If you would've fit in a way to call him a pussy, I might've nominated this post.
                              Where are my manors. FMP.
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                              • Grabaka
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-19-11
                                • 3216

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Johnnythunder
                                Anyone with a clue want to chime in please....
                                LOL dissing nunya FTW

                                Maybe he wants this:

                                "Grab your huevos and ride it" "penetrate the world"
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                                • NunyaBidness
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                                  • 07-26-09
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by MD
                                  Where are my manors. FMP.
                                  Keep building that bankroll, you'll have a manor soon enough.
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                                  • Grabaka
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                                    • 02-19-11
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                    If you would've fit in a way to call him a pussy, I might've nominated this post.
                                    What if he fitted pussy besides your name?
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                                    • Grabaka
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                                      • 02-19-11
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Johnnythunder
                                      And your user name and comments tell me how worthless anything coming out of your mouth is...shut the penetrate up and let someone with a clue interject
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                                      • NunyaBidness
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                                        • 07-26-09
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                                        #20
                                        Typical conversation on this forum:

                                        newb: Can I have a dollar.
                                        me: No, but I'll show you how to make an extra $5 a day for the rest of your life.
                                        newb: penetrate you, will somebody give me a dollar?
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                                        • MD
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                                          • 01-31-12
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                                          #21
                                          Nunya, help me out bruhv. If I want to bet two method of victory props, what's the easiest way to calculate the combined odds I'm getting? For example, if I'm betting on Jones by TKO +150 and submission at whatever stupid odds it's at, what's the fastest way to calculate the odds I'm getting on Jones by TKO or Submission? I generally convert both props to percentages, sum, and convert the product back to odds, then bet both sides in such a way that each gives an equal payout. Am I doing this wrong? Or inefficiently?
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                                          • NunyaBidness
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                                            • 07-26-09
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MD
                                            Nunya, help me out bruhv. If I want to bet two method of victory props, what's the easiest way to calculate the combined odds I'm getting? For example, if I'm betting on Jones by TKO +150 and submission at whatever stupid odds it's at, what's the fastest way to calculate the odds I'm getting on Jones by TKO or Submission? I generally convert both props to percentages, sum, and convert the product back to odds, then bet both sides in such a way that each gives an equal payout. Am I doing this wrong? Or inefficiently?


                                            If I'm understanding you correctly, that's definitely wrong.

                                            The super quick way is to just use the arbitrage calculator

                                            Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                            The Total Bet field will then be what you are risking, to win the $ Profit.

                                            Convert to odds from there.

                                            For example Let's say you want to see if its better to bet Jones ITD or Jones by KO at +150 with Jones by sub at EV.

                                            Enter $100 as bet one, enter Line #1 at +150, enter Line #2 at +100.

                                            Click calculate. It will give you:

                                            Bet #2: $500
                                            Total Bet: $900
                                            $Profit: $100
                                            %Profit: 11.1111%

                                            So, in this case you are risking $900 to win $100 by playing those two props rather than the ITD price of -450 or whatever it is.

                                            This is easily tested by seeing, that if Jones doesn't win inside the distance you lose both bets for -$900.

                                            If Jones wins by KO you win ($400x1.50)-$500 = $100
                                            If Jones wins by sub you win ($500x1.00)-$400 = $100
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                                            • getlucky2win
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                                              • 01-14-12
                                              • 1113

                                              #23
                                              boxing is rigged. u should def hedge
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                                              • Grabaka
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                                                • 02-19-11
                                                • 3216

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by getlucky2win
                                                boxing is rigged. u should def hedge
                                                But they rig it to the side of the star. Martinez and Khan are safe.
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                                                • MD
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                                                  • 01-31-12
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                  If I'm understanding you correctly, that's definitely wrong.

                                                  The super quick way is to just use the arbitrage calculator

                                                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                  The Total Bet field will then be what you are risking, to win the $ Profit.

                                                  Convert to odds from there.

                                                  For example Let's say you want to see if its better to bet Jones ITD or Jones by KO at +150 with Jones by sub at EV.

                                                  Enter $100 as bet one, enter Line #1 at +150, enter Line #2 at +100.

                                                  Click calculate. It will give you:

                                                  Bet #2: $500
                                                  Total Bet: $900
                                                  $Profit: $100
                                                  %Profit: 11.1111%

                                                  So, in this case you are risking $900 to win $100 by playing those two props rather than the ITD price of -450 or whatever it is.

                                                  This is easily tested by seeing, that if Jones doesn't win inside the distance you lose both bets for -$900.

                                                  If Jones wins by KO you win ($400x1.50)-$500 = $100
                                                  If Jones wins by sub you win ($500x1.00)-$400 = $100
                                                  That seems faster; appreciate it, thanks Nunya. You can have all of my available SBR points.

                                                  Wasn't the method I posted still correct, though? Jones by KO +150 = 40%, Jones by sub +100 = 50%. .4 + .5 = .9, or -900.
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                                                  • NunyaBidness
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                                                    • 07-26-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MD

                                                    Wasn't the method I posted still correct, though? Jones by KO +150 = 40%, Jones by sub +100 = 50%. .4 + .5 = .9, or -900.
                                                    Well for one, you didn't mention you were taking the inverse of it at the end.
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