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  • gabe
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-12-11
    • 7405

    #1
    WTF?
    Even before the fight took place, Henderson said, UFC President Dana White warned the champion that because of time constraints he would have to finish the fight early. He remembered thinking, “Goodness gracious. I have to knock him out? There are millions of people watching. My heart is racing. What did I get myself into?”
  • Sacrelicious
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-29-12
    • 5984

    #2
    Source??
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    • gabe
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-12-11
      • 7405

      #3
      bjpenn.com
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      • gabe
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        • 09-12-11
        • 7405

        #4
        Is bendo seriously dumb enough to admit something like that in an interview?

        I recall a while ago Dana saying he has never and will never tell a fighter he needs to go in there and get a knock out
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        • pouyasophy
          SBR MVP
          • 01-11-13
          • 1665

          #5
          Originally posted by gabe
          Even before the fight took place, Henderson said, UFC President Dana White warned the champion that because of time constraints he would have to finish the fight early. He remembered thinking, “Goodness gracious. I have to knock him out? There are millions of people watching. My heart is racing. What did I get myself into?”
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          • sideloaded
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-21-10
            • 7561

            #6
            Ive been saying fights are fixed for years and people laughed. It's not hard to drop down from a punch and curl up. Especially if the boss is paying you to do it. See Ken Shamrock and Stephan Bonnar for examples.
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            • TheCalculator
              SBR MVP
              • 10-10-11
              • 1683

              #7
              Originally posted by sideloaded
              Ive been saying fights are fixed for years and people laughed. It's not hard to drop down from a punch and curl up. Especially if the boss is paying you to do it. See Ken Shamrock and Stephan Bonnar for examples.
              Yup. A lot of fighters just wait for the "beating" to come in... they roll over and collect the check.
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              • gabe
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-12-11
                • 7405

                #8
                Originally posted by sideloaded
                Ive been saying fights are fixed for years and people laughed. It's not hard to drop down from a punch and curl up. Especially if the boss is paying you to do it. See Ken Shamrock and Stephan Bonnar for examples.
                I've seen fights where fighters are clearly throwing it (i.e. Jason MacDonalds KO's to Alan Belcher and Tom Lawlor) but dunno if UFC had a hand in those or if they just had money on themselves. With MacDonald, I think he was on his own 'cos he never got another fight after Lawlor. Said he's retiring, then wanted a fight and didn't get one.
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                • sideloaded
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-21-10
                  • 7561

                  #9
                  dont forget adlan's fight were he was paying back the mob
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                  • Vaughany
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 03-07-10
                    • 45563

                    #10
                    Macdonald is just old and past it and was just fighting for a paycheck. His motivation (or lack thereof) was complete opposite to Belcher who was coming back from a 2 year lay-off and desperate to fight and get a win.
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                    • Vaughany
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 03-07-10
                      • 45563

                      #11
                      Originally posted by gabe
                      Even before the fight took place, Henderson said, UFC President Dana White warned the champion that because of time constraints he would have to finish the fight early. He remembered thinking, “Goodness gracious. I have to knock him out? There are millions of people watching. My heart is racing. What did I get myself into?”
                      I also like how you've not copy and pasted the rest of this article. You've missed the part where they are clearly basing this whole story around the fact that Benson wanted to propose to his girlfriend at the end of the event! ....

                      "Are you sure you want to do this? This is a lot of pressure, if you don't have enough pressure already," White said, according to Henderson.

                      Dana wasnt saying to him "I want you to KO or submit Melendez earlier otherwise the show will run over and im sacking you!" He was quite clearly impling... "well you better finish him quickly if you want to then go and do a big proposal"!

                      Last edited by Vaughany; 04-23-13, 02:53 AM.
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                      • sideloaded
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-21-10
                        • 7561

                        #12
                        firefox is saying bjpenn is a virus attack page
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                        • gabe
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-12-11
                          • 7405

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sideloaded
                          dont forget adlan's fight were he was paying back the mob
                          lmao got knocked out by a ghost cawk
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                          • gabe
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-12-11
                            • 7405

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                            Macdonald is just old and past it and was just fighting for a paycheck. His motivation (or lack thereof) was complete opposite to Belcher who was coming back from a 2 year lay-off and desperate to fight and get a win.
                            yeah, which is why he received 2 of the fakest/quickest knockouts i've ever seen
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                            • gabe
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-12-11
                              • 7405

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vaughany
                              I also like how you've not copy and pasted the rest of this article. You've missed the part where they are clearly basing this whole story around the fact that Benson wanted to propose to his girlfriend at the end of the event! ....

                              "Are you sure you want to do this? This is a lot of pressure, if you don't have enough pressure already," White said, according to Henderson.

                              Dana wasnt saying to him "I want you to KO or submit Melendez earlier otherwise the show will run over and im sacking you!" He was quite clearly impling... "well you better finish him quickly if you want to then go and do a big proposal"!

                              that's not how i interpret that quote and it's not in the article i read either. jesus christ you're a fool, i even said it's from bjpenn.com

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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #16
                                Originally posted by gabe
                                that's not how i interpret that quote and it's not in the article i read either. jesus christ you're a fool, i even said it's from bjpenn.com

                                http://www.bjpenn.com/benson-henders...n-the-octagon/
                                ok, yes Im the fool for actually understanding what happened and not interpreting it like a kid on sherdog would!

                                Talk about nerve-racking for Benson Henderson.Not defending your UFC lightweight championship title against Gilbert Melendez at UFC on Fox 7 in San Jose, Calif.
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                                • gabe
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-12-11
                                  • 7405

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                  ok, yes Im the fool for actually understanding what happened and not interpreting it like a kid on sherdog would!

                                  http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/tre...on-on-proposal
                                  Yes you're a goddamn fool. A) For expecting me to check multiple websites to see if there is anymore to what I read in the article at hand. B) For thinking there is nothing odd about Dana saying that, regardless of time constraints.

                                  If that's what Dana said, then it meant if it goes to decision, he can't do it, yet he did it anyway.
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                                  • gabe
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-12-11
                                    • 7405

                                    #18
                                    and you're mainly a fool for initially saying i didn't paste the rest of that article when the article you read was from a completely different site than the one i read, even after i said which site mine was from. #FOOL
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by gabe
                                      Yes you're a goddamn fool. A) For expecting me to check multiple websites to see if there is anymore to what I read in the article at hand. B) For thinking there is nothing odd about Dana saying that, regardless of time constraints.

                                      If that's what Dana said, then it meant if it goes to decision, he can't do it, yet he did it anyway.
                                      lol ok so I'm a fool for not realising that you are a fool for not looking for the real source of the interview!

                                      He did it anyway because only the Mir fight went the distance out of the previous 3 fights so they weren't pressed for time (but there was no way Dana would know that before the fights happened!).
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                                      • gabe
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-12-11
                                        • 7405

                                        #20
                                        your first sentence makes no sense and makes you look like a bigger fool


                                        lol bruh just lol
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by gabe
                                          Yes you're a goddamn fool. A) For expecting me to check multiple websites to see if there is anymore to what I read in the article at hand. B) For thinking there is nothing odd about Dana saying that, regardless of time constraints.

                                          If that's what Dana said, then it meant if it goes to decision, he can't do it, yet he did it anyway.
                                          How does it not make sense?! You even admitted it yourself...calling me a fool for expecting you to actually check that there is anymore to what you read in the article. So you just admitted that you are a fool there for just jumping to conclusions by taking something out of context.
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                                          • Beelzebubzy
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 06-06-11
                                            • 6995

                                            #22
                                            I don't know what you know but I know that you don't know that I know you know. You know?
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #23
                                              not sure
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                                              • gabe
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-12-11
                                                • 7405

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                How does it not make sense?! You even admitted it yourself...calling me a fool for expecting you to actually check that there is anymore to what you read in the article. So you just admitted that you are a fool there for just jumping to conclusions by taking something out of context.
                                                After every article you read, you search more more stories about that article? You really are a fool.
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                                                • gabe
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-12-11
                                                  • 7405

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                  lol ok so I'm a fool for not realising that you are a fool for not looking for the real source of the interview!
                                                  When I said it didn't make sense, I was referring to this butchered sentence that is a crime against your native tongue.
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                                                  • Vaughany
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 03-07-10
                                                    • 45563

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by gabe
                                                    After every article you read, you search more more stories about that article? You really are a fool.
                                                    No, but before I contemplate creating a random thread on SBR with the intention of implying that there is something dodgy going on I might be inclined to actually check whether there is any substance to it. But that's just me
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                                                    • gabe
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                                                      • 09-12-11
                                                      • 7405

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                      No, but before I contemplate creating a random thread on SBR with the intention of implying that there is something dodgy going on I might be inclined to actually check whether there is any substance to it. But that's just me
                                                      Oh yeah, before you post on SBR, the sacred forum you've been a member for three years where you have a thread with forty-five thousand pages. You better fact check and cross reference every article that grabs your attention before sharing it on the sacred threads of SBR.
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                                                      • Thor4140
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-09-08
                                                        • 22296

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                        Ive been saying fights are fixed for years and people laughed. It's not hard to drop down from a punch and curl up. Especially if the boss is paying you to do it. See Ken Shamrock and Stephan Bonnar for examples.
                                                        Loader i have been educating people about this in all sports not just this one. There are two kinds of people. One that will take a step back and consider what you say and the other who is totally unreachable. This is a true story and all documented on another site. Back when Lebron went to his first title and before the playoffs began, i showed people who would win those final games to make the playoffs so Lebron could get the easy ride thru the playoffs. Like clockwork on the last days certain teams lost and it shook out where Lebron had the easy ride. Then when he played Detroit in the second series i believe, i showed guys which players would lay down for him so he could advance and it was clear as day what happen. Guys said i was just lucky with my prediction and a few said it was incredible what i said. Same guys i said would lay down were throwing the ball away in the last five minutes and taking horrible shots. These certain players do this for the good of the league. Pete Rose did this for himself and never will step foot in MLB again because he is being made an example. For years i have told people which teams would get the number one pick in the nba draft or make the biggest move in the draft because they did the league a favor (Like memphis sending Paul Gasol to the Lakers in a very lopsided deal to get the Lakers the title) with mma i don't believe the ufc is rigged unless it gets to the judges. when u see everyone on a fight with lines that look really suspicious then u either back away or take the guy nobody is taking like Carmont last week. Henderson may be champ for years because people are always betting against him. He didn't beat Edgar and Edgar will always lose these close decisions because people love betting him unless it is a guy like BJ. I can go on and on with this shit but it becomes a waste of time.
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                                                        • Beelzebubzy
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-06-11
                                                          • 6995

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by gabe
                                                          Oh yeah, before you post on SBR, the sacred forum you've been a member for three years where you have a thread with forty-five thousand pages. You better fact check and cross reference every article that grabs your attention before sharing it on the sacred threads of SBR.
                                                          Thankfully you are not a lawyer.
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                                                          • Beelzebubzy
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-06-11
                                                            • 6995

                                                            #30
                                                            "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." William Shakespeare
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                                                            • gabe
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-12-11
                                                              • 7405

                                                              #31
                                                              V is a fool.
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #32
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                                                                • The iron sheik
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-17-13
                                                                  • 1105

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                  Loader i have been educating people about this in all sports not just this one. There are two kinds of people. One that will take a step back and consider what you say and the other who is totally unreachable. This is a true story and all documented on another site. Back when Lebron went to his first title and before the playoffs began, i showed people who would win those final games to make the playoffs so Lebron could get the easy ride thru the playoffs. Like clockwork on the last days certain teams lost and it shook out where Lebron had the easy ride. Then when he played Detroit in the second series i believe, i showed guys which players would lay down for him so he could advance and it was clear as day what happen. Guys said i was just lucky with my prediction and a few said it was incredible what i said. Same guys i said would lay down were throwing the ball away in the last five minutes and taking horrible shots. These certain players do this for the good of the league. Pete Rose did this for himself and never will step foot in MLB again because he is being made an example. For years i have told people which teams would get the number one pick in the nba draft or make the biggest move in the draft because they did the league a favor (Like memphis sending Paul Gasol to the Lakers in a very lopsided deal to get the Lakers the title) with mma i don't believe the ufc is rigged unless it gets to the judges. when u see everyone on a fight with lines that look really suspicious then u either back away or take the guy nobody is taking like Carmont last week. Henderson may be champ for years because people are always betting against him. He didn't beat Edgar and Edgar will always lose these close decisions because people love betting him unless it is a guy like BJ. I can go on and on with this shit but it becomes a waste of time.
                                                                  This is a really funny post because you're posting in a betting forum, and half of your posts seem to go around how everything is fixed, everything is corrupt and everything is predetermined. Always against you too, it seems.

                                                                  Kind of begs the question why do you bet?
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                                                                  • NunyaBidness
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                                                                    • 07-26-09
                                                                    • 9345

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                                                    This is a really funny post because you're posting in a betting forum, and half of your posts seem to go around how everything is fixed, everything is corrupt and everything is predetermined. Always against you too, it seems.

                                                                    Kind of begs the question why do you bet?

                                                                    Love the sentiment, but that's not what 'begs the question' means.
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                                                                    • Hannibal
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-15-11
                                                                      • 1055

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Modern usage

                                                                      Many English speakers use "begs the question" to mean "raises the question", "evades the question", or even "ignores the question", and follow that phrase with the question, for example: "this year's deficit is half a trillion dollars, which begs the question: how are we ever going to balance the budget?" Apart from philosophical, logical, grammatical and legal contexts, some authorities deem such usage to no longer be mistaken.[
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