UFC on Fuel TV 8: Sliva Vs Stann (March 02, 2013)

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 09:52 PM

29-28??? In what alternate universe could you not give Tavares all 3 rounds???

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 09:52 PM

I dont know, but Tavares doesnt seem to have much power. The higher tiers in their weight division would probably own him.

MMAbetMASTA · 03-02-13, 09:53 PM

Yeaaaaaaaaaaa boys!!!!!!!

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA

Word yea I gotta take that now... -200 or better I think there's value on kim

Anyone have any idea why kim's line has dropped so much / why the late siyar love???

I'm assuming its because people hit Siyar when Kim was -300, which is a steep line... but that only explains a bit of it.

Siyar is overrated.

fitguy67 · 03-02-13, 09:53 PM

if Tavares gets robbed here, i'll..i need that cool "russian roulette that ends badly" emoticon...

bmansell33 · 03-02-13, 09:53 PM

Who you taking betmasta?

MMAbetMASTA · 03-02-13, 09:59 PM

93301854-1	3/2/2013 9:53 PM	Money Line	108.35	55.00	Pregame Sports 24122 D H Kim -197 for Game
93301923-1	3/2/2013 9:53 PM	Money Line	108.35	55.00	Pregame Sports 24122 D H Kim -197 for Game

Made a donk move and my friggin' computer froze and accidently made TWO kim plays when I only wanted to play kim to win 50 lol.. Cliked 'backspace' and thought the first play didn't go through so I made another.

Kim best win now or else I'm now gonna be down a lil' more than I can lose lol.

Don't have much of a breakdown for this, most people backing kim have already done so and I agree with what they've said. If Kim fights smart and does what he does best n gives us a relatively boring grapple fest then I think he's got this easy. I can't say with confidence that siyar tdd isn't legit, but from what I've read and from what people have broke down, kim should be able to get him down and keep him there. This bet is mostly value, can't resist -200 (although I didn't intend to play kim for a full line / to win 100)...

GL Kim backers!

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:00 PM

So if the UFC picks judges in Japan, that would explain the Caceres decision. Which is stupid because nobody in the US cares about Caceres, why promote him? But the guy from Korea is probably a hero over there because he is in the UFC. Would make a lot more business sense to promote the Asian fighters.

bmansell33 · 03-02-13, 10:01 PM

Hedge with siyar

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 10:01 PM

I threw a bit more cash on Kim as well, that line is a hell of a deal.

Sykes · 03-02-13, 10:02 PM

+230 - Dong Hyun Kim - To Win By Unanimous Decision- good line? I like him here fighting a blackzillion too or ITD??

Beelzebubzy · 03-02-13, 10:02 PM

Trying to kick my in laws out to watch fights
this isn't going to well

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:03 PM

Does line movement in MMA betting mean much? Like when the line moves a lot in Football etc.?

sideloaded · 03-02-13, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by bigdrov1x

So if the UFC picks judges in Japan, that would explain the Caceres decision. Which is stupid because nobody in the US cares about Caceres, why promote him? But the guy from Korea is probably a hero over there because he is in the UFC. Would make a lot more business sense to promote the Asian fighters.

its pure ignorance, plus whoever the judge decided to bet on.

not the ufc picking winners

these judges make peanuts and probably can get down a fair amount in asia

Sykes · 03-02-13, 10:06 PM

I read before the ref's make like 1500 for main fights. Really is peanuts to what this stuff pulls in.

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Sykes

+230 - Dong Hyun Kim - To Win By Unanimous Decision- good line? I like him here fighting a blackzillion too or ITD??

Its very solid. I'm taking Kim straight up with a tiny play on the decision prop to extract a bit of extra value. I would not go too heavy on it, but a little sprinkle is not a bad idea at all.

MMAbetMASTA · 03-02-13, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by Sykes

+230 - Dong Hyun Kim - To Win By Unanimous Decision- good line? I like him here fighting a blackzillion too or ITD??

he's not exactly a sub grappler, more about positioning and control, and siyar's never been finished by strikes... so I think that is a hell of a line and if I had prop options that'd be my only play on this fight... He should ride out 3 boring rounds in top control, or at least I'm hoping so. GL man that's legit value.

bmansell33 · 03-02-13, 10:08 PM

I see value in the afghan good luck guys

Sykes · 03-02-13, 10:09 PM

They took it down as I was about to bet. They done it earlier with lee roy hopefully they put it back up.

Sykes · 03-02-13, 10:12 PM

Fuk it changed the order of the fights.

fitguy67 · 03-02-13, 10:13 PM

Originally posted by jakejd82

The thing about that is alot of fighters have one time trained with alot of other fighters. There would be even more controversy if someone had a questionable call for someone they trained with previously. I just think the judges need to be better educated on what "wins" a round

good point...

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:15 PM

yeah the Judges make 1500 which is peanuts, i agree. What is everybodies opinion on what they pay fighters? The figures that I saw from the last fights are pretty stingy, but they say that there is a lot of money that they do not report. To me< it couldnt be that much because if it was, it would make sense to advertise it instead of looking cheap.

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:15 PM

Alright lets go Stun Gun!!!

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 10:17 PM

Kim can take Siyar down at will, that takedown was effortless.

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:19 PM

Full Mount!!!

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:20 PM

What is the ref watching? Full mount, and hes talking about a standup? Is this MMA or K1? What a tool!!!

Beelzebubzy · 03-02-13, 10:20 PM

Kim's cardio has been horrible in the past.

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 10:26 PM

Kim -2040, POUND THAT SHIT

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 10:27 PM

Another takedown... this fights over. Congrats fellow Kim backers.

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:27 PM

2 in the book at 10-9 for Stun Gun.

STAY STRONG · 03-02-13, 10:29 PM

stun gun too good!!

bmansell33 · 03-02-13, 10:29 PM

Atleast live was offered long as siyar doesnt have miracle knockout ill break even. Should have listened to you guys in first place

bigdrov1x · 03-02-13, 10:30 PM

Book it this ones ovah!!!!

Sacrelicious · 03-02-13, 10:31 PM

Bahaha, Kim dropping his arms and nodding at Siyar to punch him, love it.

Sykes · 03-02-13, 10:32 PM

Just need my man Sanchez not to go crazy nice safe fight!

3/2/2013 11:30 PM UFC Fighting 1201 Takanori Gomi/Diego Sanchez* Over 2½ -165 1.606
3/2/2013 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1501 Siyar Bahadurzada/Dong Hyun Kim* Over 2½ -165 1.606
3/2/2013 9:30 PM UFC Fighting 1601 Brad Tavares/Riki Fukuda* Over 2½ -300 1.333
3/2/2013 9:00 PM UFC Fighting 1701 Bryan Caraway/Takeya Mizugaki* Over 2½ -175 1.571
3/2/2013 8:00 PM UFC Fighting 1901 Kyung Ho Kang/Alex Caceres* Over 2½ -135 1.741