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  • sideloaded
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    • 08-21-10
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    #1
    boycotting ufc aka wwe
    Until jon fitch is re signed. I can no longer support this "organization" more like crime syndicate.

    Jon Fitch is a top 5 welterweight no one can argue that. Ask yourself if this is still a sport when a top five contender can't even fight in the biggest league.

    Would the nfl drop a top 5 franchise after a few losing years?

    WWE has more credibility. WWE admits to fixing matchups and choosing who is the best and who sucks. Since they do this they spare the guys the torture of actually fighting and let them "work" matches.

    UFC expects guys to lay their lives on the line in a sporting event. Then turn around and fix belts and decide who is good compitetion and who isn't based on personal grudges.

    F_CK UFC.
  • jakejd82
    SBR Sharp
    • 04-08-12
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    #2
    Originally posted by sideloaded
    Jon Fitch is a top 5 welterweight no one can argue that. Ask yourself if this is still a sport when a top five contender can't even fight in the biggest league.
    Zero chance Fitch is a current top 5 WW
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    • Sacrelicious
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      • 11-29-12
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      #3
      Originally posted by jakejd82
      Zero chance Fitch is a current top 5 WW
      He is a top five WW, and if not, he isnt far off at all, its a goddamn disgrace.

      But the UFC isnt a sport, its entertainment, and it goes further and further in that direction with each passing day. I've come to begrudgingly accept it, but it pisses me off.
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      • jakejd82
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        • 04-08-12
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        #4
        I agree he shouldnt of been cut but you lose all credibility when you say no one can argue he is a top 5 WW when he had a draw against bj, got smoked by hendricks, beat silva, and got manhandled by maia.
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        • sideloaded
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          #5
          Originally posted by jakejd82
          I agree he shouldnt of been cut but you lose all credibility when you say no one can argue he is a top 5 WW when he had a draw against bj, got smoked by hendricks, beat silva, and got manhandled by maia.
          you're an idiot
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          • jakejd82
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            • 04-08-12
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            #6
            you guys are way off base saying he is a top 5 ww. He is a top 5 ww of all time but not close to top 5 currently.
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            • jakejd82
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              #7
              Originally posted by sideloaded
              you're an idiot
              Valid argument... Glad we can discuss as adults. lol
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              • Sacrelicious
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                • 11-29-12
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                #8
                Hendricks landed one punch and dropped him, just like he did to Kampmann. Maia is in my opinion number 4 right now. Worst case scenario, you can make an argument for him being 6th or 7th at worst. No way in hell you could put him behind the likes of Ellenberger, Kampmann, Koscheck, or Rory.

                UFC intentionally, I suspect, did not match him up against many in the top 10 right now, because they did not want to have him beat them and give him credibility. They have not supported him for years, they did not want him to grind out victories over all of thier more favored contenders.
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                • sideloaded
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sacrelicious
                  Hendricks landed one punch and dropped him, just like he did to Kampmann. Maia is in my opinion number 4 right now. Worst case scenario, you can make an argument for him being 6th or 7th at worst. No way in hell you could put him behind the likes of Ellenberger, Kampmann, Koscheck, or Rory.

                  UFC intentionally, I suspect, did not match him up against many in the top 10 right now, because they did not want to have him beat them and give him credibility. They have not supported him for years, they did not want him to grind out victories over all of thier more favored contenders.
                  exactly, rankings are based on what you've done not potential.
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                  • sideloaded
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                    • 08-21-10
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by jakejd82
                    Valid argument... Glad we can discuss as adults. lol
                    ok so he is 6 or 7, not even my point

                    my point is wwe is entertainment I watch mma to see the best vs the best. This shit the ufc is turning out with jank ass match making is down right criminal.


                    I mean just look at this fake 135 womens belt. WHy the f-ck is the number 1 not fighting the number 3 alexis davis? HMMM???????

                    Instead she is fighting number 8 or 9 who has never beat an opponent with a winning record. Dana White is f-cking garbage.
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                    • jakejd82
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                      #11
                      thank you for making my point, you just said 6th or 7th at worst.... sideloaded said there was no argument. I agree he is probably 7th or 8th. I would put Rory ahead of him considering Rory Dominated BJ and Fitch Drew him as well as got smoked by hendricks (fluke or not) and dominated by maia.
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                      • jakejd82
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                        • 04-08-12
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                        #12
                        That being said im a big fan of Fitch and think he was obviously wrongly cut, hope he signs with bellator and is able to finish a couple guys on his way to the title. Hope you change your mind and watch the card
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                        • sideloaded
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jakejd82
                          That being said im a big fan of Fitch and think he was obviously wrongly cut, hope he signs with bellator and is able to finish a couple guys on his way to the title. Hope you change your mind and watch the card
                          you're still missing the entire point.

                          If you zuffabots keep watching this garbage it's only going to get worse. Expect Bonnar vs Silva 2. I wont be watching because at this point I want the UFC to fail and Dana White to become homeless. Bellator can be the new number 1.
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                          • jakejd82
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                            #14
                            you can call me a zuffabot all you want, zuffa built the UFC to what it is today. MMA is the best sport in the world so I will continue supporting it as well as all other organizations. We can agree to disagree, thats fine. Everyone has there own opinions on everything.
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                            • MD
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                              • 01-31-12
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                              #15
                              To be honest, as much as I like Jon Fitch, I thought he should have lost that decision in his last fight to Che Mills.
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                              • Kermit
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                                • 09-27-10
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                                #16
                                The ratio of Fitch's Performance to payscale were not cutting it anymore. He was not a draw and his name was not persuading anyone to consider buying a Pay Per View. He has a limited skill set that was exploited in his last fight. He has also been a pain to the UFC by running his mouth over the past year.

                                He is 8th ranked welterweight at best.
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                                • Kermit
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jakejd82
                                  That being said im a big fan of Fitch and think he was obviously wrongly cut, hope he signs with bellator and is able to finish a couple guys on his way to the title. Hope you change your mind and watch the card
                                  Fitch is going to sign with World Series of Fighting. The president has already tweeted that it was a done deal.
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                                  • Kermit
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                                    #18
                                    I am more upset that Diego Nunes got cut. His fights were usually pretty exciting.
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                                    • jakejd82
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Kermit
                                      Fitch is going to sign with World Series of Fighting. The president has already tweeted that it was a done deal.
                                      Did not hear that, Thanks for the info. That is probably a better place for him as his contract will probably leave him more options to resign with the UFC. I agree with your ranking of Fitch but it is hard to rank him because he has been dominated by three of the top fives and beat everyone else (other then the draw against BJ).
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                                      • Kermit
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sideloaded
                                        you're still missing the entire point.

                                        If you zuffabots keep watching this garbage it's only going to get worse. Expect Bonnar vs Silva 2. I wont be watching because at this point I want the UFC to fail and Dana White to become homeless. Bellator can be the new number 1.
                                        Bellator didn't even want Fitch. So that should tell you something.
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                                        • jakejd82
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Kermit
                                          Bellator didn't even want Fitch. So that should tell you something.
                                          I really want to see Askren vs. Fitch, only as a barometer of where Askren actually is in the rankings. I have seen him anywhere from 5 or 6 all the way to 14 or 15.
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                                          • omalley21
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                                            • 11-08-10
                                            • 908

                                            #22
                                            GSP, Hendricks, Rory, Maia, Woodley are all better than him. But its still ridiculous to cut him.
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                                            • Kermit
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by omalley21
                                              GSP, Hendricks, Rory, Maia, Woodley are all better than him. But its still ridiculous to cut him.
                                              I think that here is more to the story of him being cut then just losing a couple fights.
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                                              • jakejd82
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by omalley21
                                                GSP, Hendricks, Rory, Maia, Woodley are all better than him. But its still ridiculous to cut him.
                                                Woodley would not be near my top 5. I would say GSP, Hendricks, Rory, Condit, Maia but thats one of the things thats awesome about mma, everyone has there own opionion and there is no "right" answer. Makes it fun to debate. Everyone have fun with the card tonight, Good luck with your bets !
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                                                • sideloaded
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jakejd82
                                                  you can call me a zuffabot all you want, zuffa built the UFC to what it is today. MMA is the best sport in the world so I will continue supporting it as well as all other organizations. We can agree to disagree, thats fine. Everyone has there own opinions on everything.
                                                  UFC did nothing but try to kill mma. MMA had it's golden age and it was pride. If you like this shit now it's a water downed version appealing to the lowest common denominator.


                                                  Maybe thats not you, I don't know. But you're are showing zero critical thinking skills and regurgitating Dana White's talking points.
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                                                  • sideloaded
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                                                    #26
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                                                    • sideloaded
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                                                      #27
                                                      59.99 to watch a glorified sparring session between 1 vs 9

                                                      WNBA level talent.

                                                      "greatest sport in the world"

                                                      cant make this shit up
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                                                      • sideloaded
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                                                        #28
                                                        UFC was a fad between 2008-2010 peeking with a star from WWE.

                                                        UFC hasn't sold a 1 million+ ppv In over 3 years while boxing does it twice a year.

                                                        Im embarrassed to admit I even watch ufc to my friends.

                                                        Typical fan right here

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                                                        • Kermit
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                          UFC did nothing but try to kill mma. MMA had it's golden age and it was pride. If you like this shit now it's a water downed version appealing to the lowest common denominator.


                                                          Maybe thats not you, I don't know. But you're are showing zero critical thinking skills and regurgitating Dana White's talking points.
                                                          My problem with Pride was the fact that not only were enhancement drugs allowed, but they were encouraged. Most fighters that migrated from Pride to the UFC struggled when they made their initial transition. Of course Anderson Silva was one of the rare exceptions. But then again, he had already had a few fights in a cage before he fought Leben.

                                                          Pride's corruption and links to organized crime were what led to it's downfall.
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                                                          • Kermit
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                            UFC was a fad between 2008-2010 peeking with a star from WWE.

                                                            UFC hasn't sold a 1 million+ ppv In over 3 years while boxing does it twice a year.

                                                            Im embarrassed to admit I even watch ufc to my friends.
                                                            I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that there are more UFC Pay Per views now then there were a few years ago.

                                                            Just as many(if not more people) are watching UFC, but they are polling together now to do so because let's face it, $45 a month(for standard definition) is almost $550 a year.

                                                            So when you have a PPV every month, it isn't as big a deal as it was when they only had them every 4 months or so.
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                                                            • Kermit
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                                                              #31
                                                              If there were boxing Pay Per Views every single month for $54.99, I highly doubt that they would have a million buys.
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                                                              • sideloaded
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                                                                #32
                                                                I still think boxing grosses more ppv product

                                                                but we cant agrue this because no one knows the real ppv numbers

                                                                rampage said the ufc lies

                                                                which I believe

                                                                Dave Meltzer is an idiot
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                                                                • Kermit
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  There is no doubt in my mind that there is probably corruption, but certain guys like Rampage for example are tough to take seriously especially when he was given so many chances by the UFC after fukking up repeatedly.
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                                                                  • Sacrelicious
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Why is Meltzer an idiot??
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                                                                    • TheDane
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Dana is going to have to take a hard look at how he handles his business once he sees this thread.
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