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  • MD
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    #631
    Originally posted by Kermit
    And Machida IMO took Dan down right at the end of the first to steal the round, which he did. I don't think he was scared. He fought tonight basically the same way that he does in every fight. It just depends on what kind of fight that his opponent brings to him.
    Yeah, he bounced around on his toes waiting for the other guy to come to him so that he could get the takedown.

    Dan Henderson needs to work on his wrestling if he wants to take on Jones bro.
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    • Kermit
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      #632
      Originally posted by MD
      If Dan Henderson is so much better than Machida, then why could Shogun take down Dan Henderson, but he couldn't take down Machida?

      This logic is infallible and it is impossible for you to disprove it.
      Machida and Shogun are strikers. Henderson is a Wrestler. I am not sure why you are talking about wrestlers facing Henderson. It's not unusual for even the best strikers to go for takedowns.

      I mean look at Jake Shields, his stand up is garbage as he is purely a ground guy, but he stood and traded with GSP for 5 rounds.

      Machida is hard to take down because he has an ability to avoid the clinch.
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      • MD
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        #633
        Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
        I don't think Dan Henderson would be afraid of Caros Fodor... but then again, I don't know everything...
        Dan Henderson already knocked that bum out back in Strikeforce bro.
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        • MD
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          #634
          Originally posted by Kermit
          Machida and Shogun are strikers. Henderson is a Wrestler. I am not sure why you are talking about wrestlers facing Henderson. It's not unusual for even the best strikers to go for takedowns.

          I mean look at Jake Shields, his stand up is garbage as he is purely a ground guy, but he stood and traded with GSP for 5 rounds.

          Machida is hard to take down because he has an ability to avoid the clinch.
          How many times has Shogun instigated the grappling in his last few fights? Go count, I'll wait. Machida is the biggest wrestler at LHW. How do you think he keeps getting so many knockouts? They put him in there with other wrestling bums, so he bounces around waiting for them to rush in for a takedown and then he throws a left straight. Simple. Machida is the biggest lay and pray artist in LHW history.
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          • Kermit
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            #635
            Originally posted by MD
            Yeah, he bounced around on his toes waiting for the other guy to come to him so that he could get the takedown.

            Dan Henderson needs to work on his wrestling if he wants to take on Jones bro.
            Jones would absolutely wreck Dan.
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            • Educ8d Degener8
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              #636
              Originally posted by MD
              Dan Henderson already knocked that bum out back in Strikeforce bro.
              Please tell me your joking. I can read no sarcasm within your self righteous grammatical style.
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              • MD
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                #637
                Originally posted by Kermit
                Jones would absolutely wreck Dan.
                He'd bounce around waiting for Dan to throw a punch and then he'd try to take him down, but with his ridiculous reach. It'd be like a tentacle porn version of the Machida fight.
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                • Kermit
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                  #638
                  Originally posted by MD
                  How many times has Shogun instigated the grappling in his last few fights? Go count, I'll wait. Machida is the biggest wrestler at LHW. How do you think he keeps getting so many knockouts? They put him in there with other wrestling bums, so he bounces around waiting for them to rush in for a takedown and then he throws a left straight. Simple. Machida is the biggest lay and pray artist in LHW history.
                  Machida a Lay and Pray artist?

                  He is more like a hit and move type of fighter. I honestly don't recall him laying on anyone.
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                  • Imsmarterthanu
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                    #639
                    Robbie Lawler vs Jake Ellenberger would be sweet

                    also Manhoef vs Dan Henderson
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                    • MD
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                      #640
                      Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                      Please tell me your joking. I can read no sarcasm within your self righteous grammatical style.
                      This is far too serious a topic for jokes.
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                      • MD
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                        #641
                        Originally posted by Kermit
                        Machida a Lay and Pray artist?

                        He is more like a hit and move type of fighter. I honestly don't recall him laying on anyone.
                        He hasn't had to recently, as they keep putting him in with wrestling cans who he can knock out instead of taking down. Against a guy like Dan he had to keep hoping for the takedown so he could lay on him.
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                        • Educ8d Degener8
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                          #642
                          Originally posted by MD
                          This is far too serious a topic for jokes.
                          I'll have to look up that Henderson vs Caros Fodor fight then...
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                          • MD
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                            #643
                            Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                            I'll have to look up that Henderson vs Caros Fodor fight then...
                            ...
                            Last edited by sbr.rodrigo; 04-23-15, 05:08 PM.
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                            • Kermit
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                              #644
                              Fodor is lightweight. Unless they met at welterweight in Pride, they never fought.
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                              • Kermit
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                                #645
                                Originally posted by MD
                                =
                                That is Fedor, not Fodor.
                                Last edited by sbr.rodrigo; 04-23-15, 05:08 PM.
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                                • Educ8d Degener8
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                                  #646
                                  Lyoto's a wrestler and Henderson fought Fodor in Strikeforce... I feel enlightened...

                                  Post Presser on now... Robertson got SOTN...

                                  <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/s_M-7f6bcM4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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                                  • MD
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                                    #647
                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                    That is Fedor, not Fodor.
                                    This is like Inception. So much levelling.
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                                    • Kermit
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                                      #648
                                      Sam Stout just fought Caros Fodor.

                                      I can't this thread seriously anymore.
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                                      • MD
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                                        #649
                                        Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                        Lyoto's a wrestler and Henderson fought Fodor in Strikeforce... I feel enlightened...

                                        Post Presser on now... Robertson got SOTN...

                                        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/s_M-7f6bcM4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                                        You're good at this though, I'm almost taking you seriously.
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                                        • Kermit
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                                          #650
                                          Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                          Lyoto's a wrestler and Henderson fought Fodor in Strikeforce... I feel enlightened...

                                          Post Presser on now... Robertson got SOTN...
                                          He deserved it.
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                                          • Imsmarterthanu
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                                            #651
                                            I was hoping Dan Henderson got knocked out tonight

                                            put glover texeira against hendo or put manhoef vs hendo i wanna see him ktfo
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                                            • FindTheLock
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                                              #652
                                              I dunno if he can be knocked out without a weapon.
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                                              • Educ8d Degener8
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                                                #653
                                                Machida's mind must be so confused right now...

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                                                • FindTheLock
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                                                  #654
                                                  what is the O/U on him passing the mic to the wrong twin?
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                                                  • NunyaBidness
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                                                    #655
                                                    Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                                    Post Presser on now... Robertson got SOTN...
                                                    Wow, I'm shocked.
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                                                    • terpkeg
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                                                      #656
                                                      Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                      While we're on the subject of why Liz didn't get up, can we please discuss the reason that Hendo didn't just punch Lyoto?
                                                      hahahahaha
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                                                      • brumbies
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                                                        #657
                                                        Originally posted by brumbies
                                                        [ATTACH]54128[/ATTACH]

                                                        Wtf? this is what i see when i wiki'ed machida. All in on machida???
                                                        un freaking believable. whoever vandalized the wiki even got the split decision right! seriously what are the odds of that?
                                                        Last edited by sbr.rodrigo; 04-23-15, 05:09 PM.
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                                                        • GunShard
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                                                          #658
                                                          Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                                          Machida's mind must be so confused right now...

                                                          lol
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                                                          • Vaughany
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                                                            #659
                                                            Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                                                            I'll have to rewatch the fight but at the time, it seemed like there was no need to rush on Ronda's part as Liz was just laying there inviting Ronda to dive into her muffin... oh wait... now I know what Liz was thinkin...
                                                            lol
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                                                            • MMAbetMASTA
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                                                              #660
                                                              Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                                              93022146-1 2/23/2013 0:18 AM Money Line 205.00 50.00 Pregame Sports
                                                              24210 U Faber -410 for Game
                                                              93022157-1 2/23/2013 0:20 AM Money Line 225.00 180.00 Pregame Sports
                                                              24250 Y VILLEFORT -125 for Game
                                                              93022190-1 2/23/2013 0:23 AM Money Line 109.50 73.00 Pregame Sports
                                                              24221 B Schaub -150 for Game
                                                              93022191-1 2/23/2013 0:24 AM Money Line 20.00 28.00 Pregame Sports
                                                              24245 J Manley +140 for Game
                                                              93022244-1 2/23/2013 0:28 AM Money Line 62.50 50.00 Pregame Sports
                                                              24250 Y VILLEFORT -125 for Game
                                                              Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                                              Going on degen tilt, betmasta blow up is a comin' tonight lol.. Adding:

                                                              93054788-1 2/23/2013 7:48 PM Money Line 25.00 35.00 Pregame Sports
                                                              24234 S Stout +140 for Game
                                                              Might have to double up on faber too and pay the juice, but only if schaub comes through.

                                                              Auto-fad me lol, one of the worst weekends I've had in a while with those sizable losses on Rad M and Yuri V.. Gonna be a pretty large loss this weekend if schaub and / or faber don't come through no bueno...
                                                              Originally posted by MMAbetMASTA
                                                              Had to take it at -310, degen tilt in full effect here haha

                                                              Made a bit more money back after villefort loss with stout and shaub, so I'll take the same loss if kos doesn't come through. Chasin' like a true degen tonight

                                                              93064894-1 2/23/2013 10:09 PM Money Line 155.00 50.00 Pregame Sports
                                                              24218 J Koscheck -310 for Game
                                                              Horrible night...

                                                              sounds like everyone killed it, but I tanked... Loss of -302 last night and 402 for the whole weekend with the Rad M. BFC loss.. worst weekend in the last few months

                                                              Is what it is.. I deserved every bit of it, especially after that degen tilt play on KOS last minute lol, what a donk move... should have just took the villefort loss and not chased at all. That Kos finish was karma and the mma gods slapped my dumb ass.

                                                              But its all gravy baby..entertainment wise I thought it pretty good show overall, although the hendo / cheeta fight really disapointed... Played out exactly as I suspected for machida to win. I don't blame him tho, its what he had to do and was the best way to fight hendo and get a W (Hendo is my favorite fighter, but imo there is no argument for a hendo win)... same thing with Schaub, boring fight but he fought to his opponent's weakness, despite the fan hate, and got the win.

                                                              Rest of the fights were real dope and I enjoyed the show, it just sucks I was losing to some pretty weak plays. Wanted to see Rousey get choked so bad, I thought liz had that at first it was a nasty crank. It makes me wonder who's next for her or where the women's division is going... not many viable challengers that seem to interesting style wise..

                                                              Anyways, glad all of you did so well, sounds like some big winners last night. Hopefully I'll be back on that bus next week
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                                                              • Grabaka
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                                                                #661


                                                                Did you guys saw this one? LOL
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                                                                • Vaughany
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                                                                  #662
                                                                  lol
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                                                                  • GunShard
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                                                                    #663
                                                                    Originally posted by Grabaka


                                                                    Did you guys saw this one? LOL
                                                                    lol
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                                                                    • Vaughany
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                                                                      #664
                                                                      jhjhjhjh
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