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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #211
    Originally posted by KushMoney
    Yeah Clearly.

    Made over 18 units last night. More than you've made betting MMA in a looong time..


    Edit: Unless your longshot Parlay hits, which it won't..

    Dude there really isnt anything to debate...Im guessing this didnt really sink in did it??!

    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
    Easy Explanation:

    Zayats +200 with Pitbull -110 $100 to win $472
    Zayats +200 with Curran -110 $100 to win $472

    Combine to equal Zayats $200 to win $372 or +186

    You paid the juice twice for no reason.

    Parlays still aren't magic.
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    • PunisherIND
      SBR MVP
      • 02-24-11
      • 4983

      #212
      Originally posted by KushMoney
      Yeah Clearly.

      Made over 18 units last night. More than you've made betting MMA in a looong time..


      Edit: Unless your longshot Parlay hits, which it won't..
      kush, good job last night, but i dont think you understand the point that nunya et al were trying to explain. you would have made more money if you just bet on the russian straight up, rather than the two parlays.
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      • KushMoney
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 07-11-11
        • 658

        #213
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Dude there really isnt anything to debate...Im guessing this didnt really sink in did it??!
        Yes. I responded to Nunya directly. Before you stuck your nose in my shit!

        Originally posted by PunisherIND
        kush, good job last night, but i dont think you understand the point that nunya et al were trying to explain. you would have made more money if you just bet on the russian straight up, rather than the two parlays.
        Thanks bro.

        I'm understanding completely.

        My original thought was to Paraly Zayat/Curran. So I did that...

        but after that kid who trains with Curran started saying all that stuff like "This fight is a no play" I thought, this dude must know something most people don't.

        Made me nervous

        Had Curran lost, I woulda lost $230 - my initial Bet on Curran

        and the parlay

        So I thought about "Hedging" by making a similar sized parlay with Zayats and Pitbull instead

        So I parlayed him with Pitbull.

        If Curran lost, my parlay would have lost, my straight play would have lost, but my Pitbull/Zayats parlay would still be pending, needing Zayats to win no matter what like I said.

        Pitbull never got to +115+ so I couldn't hedge out of my Orignal bet.. Had to put my balls on and hope for the best... But I Capped Sobral as the Underdog .. woulda been surprised if he WON

        TL;DR I bet $400 on the Russian straight up. Wanted to win more and parlay him with someone else I thought would win. Chose Curran. Had Second Thoughts, Chose Pitbull.


        Fight was sooo close.. I'd say I was in the right by doing what I did..
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        • MD
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-31-12
          • 9728

          #214
          This thread has taken a hilarious turn.
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          • PunisherIND
            SBR MVP
            • 02-24-11
            • 4983

            #215
            Originally posted by KushMoney
            Yes. I responded to Nunya directly. Before you stuck your nose in my shit!



            Thanks bro.

            I'm understanding completely.

            My original thought was to Paraly Zayat/Curran. So I did that...

            but after that kid who trains with Curran started saying all that stuff like "This fight is a no play" I thought, this dude must know something most people don't.

            Made me nervous

            Had Curran lost, I woulda lost $230 - my initial Bet on Curran

            and the parlay

            So I thought about "Hedging" by making a similar sized parlay with Zayats and Pitbull instead

            So I parlayed him with Pitbull.

            If Curran lost, my parlay would have lost, my straight play would have lost, but my Pitbull/Zayats parlay would still be pending, needing Zayats to win no matter what like I said.

            Pitbull never got to +115+ so I couldn't hedge out of my Orignal bet.. Had to put my balls on and hope for the best... But I Capped Sobral as the Underdog .. woulda been surprised if he WON

            TL;DR I bet $400 on the Russian straight up. Wanted to win more and parlay him with someone else I thought would win. Chose Curran. Had Second Thoughts, Chose Pitbull.


            Fight was sooo close.. I'd say I was in the right by doing what I did..

            gotcha, so maybe it wasnt a bad move since the hedge was motivated by new information. i dont think you explained your thought process originally. you made it seem like you were making the two parlays simultaneously, in which case it was clearly a bad move.
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #216
              Originally posted by KushMoney
              Yes. I responded to Nunya directly. Before you stuck your nose in my shit!



              Thanks bro.

              I'm understanding completely.

              My original thought was to Paraly Zayat/Curran. So I did that...

              but after that kid who trains with Curran started saying all that stuff like "This fight is a no play" I thought, this dude must know something most people don't.

              Made me nervous

              Had Curran lost, I woulda lost $230 - my initial Bet on Curran

              and the parlay

              So I thought about "Hedging" by making a similar sized parlay with Zayats and Pitbull instead


              So I parlayed him with Pitbull.

              If Curran lost, my parlay would have lost, my straight play would have lost, but my Pitbull/Zayats parlay would still be pending, needing Zayats to win no matter what like I said.

              Pitbull never got to +115+ so I couldn't hedge out of my Orignal bet.. Had to put my balls on and hope for the best... But I Capped Sobral as the Underdog .. woulda been surprised if he WON

              TL;DR I bet $400 on the Russian straight up. Wanted to win more and parlay him with someone else I thought would win. Chose Curran. Had Second Thoughts, Chose Pitbull.


              Fight was sooo close.. I'd say I was in the right by doing what I did..
              You could of said that was your reasoning before!

              Plus you said... "I am gonna parlay him with Curran, and another Parlay with Pitbull, just in case..." which suggests you hadn't already done the double of Zayats and Curran.
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              • Vaughany
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 03-07-10
                • 45563

                #217
                Originally posted by PunisherIND
                gotcha, so maybe it wasnt a bad move since the hedge was motivated by new information. i dont think you explained your thought process originally. you made it seem like you were making the two parlays simultaneously, in which case it was clearly a bad move.
                exactly
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                • MD
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-31-12
                  • 9728

                  #218
                  You guys are failing to point out that it's still a bad move.
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                  • KushMoney
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-11-11
                    • 658

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                    You could of said that was your reasoning before!

                    Plus you said... "I am gonna parlay him with Curran, and another Parlay with Pitbull, just in case..." which suggests you hadn't already done the double of Zayats and Curran.

                    I would have explained myself.. had anyone had my back!


                    All I got was jokes and "Don't do that" "Your +200 guy isn't a lock"


                    I really should have explained my reasoning, but knowing the way you guys are, probably would have just found ways to disagree with me and shitted on my plays. I didn't wanna argue with you all about how I bet my money. You are all sharp MMA bettors and it feels shitty to be proven wrong. If I won I won, If I lost I lost. Still got money in books and in the bank.


                    Wish you all well. Might bet UFC on FX.. just trynna figure out which dogs I like..

                    Goodluck!
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                    • Grabaka
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-19-11
                      • 3216

                      #220
                      Originally posted by KushMoney
                      I would have explained myself.. had anyone had my back!


                      All I got was jokes and "Don't do that" "Your +200 guy isn't a lock"


                      I really should have explained my reasoning, but knowing the way you guys are, probably would have just found ways to disagree with me and shitted on my plays. I didn't wanna argue with you all about how I bet my money. You are all sharp MMA bettors and it feels shitty to be proven wrong. If I won I won, If I lost I lost. Still got money in books and in the bank.


                      Wish you all well. Might bet UFC on FX.. just trynna figure out which dogs I like..

                      Goodluck!
                      I called nunya bro. I told him you wanted to learn and this is how you pay meeeeeeeeee? :P jk
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                      • Vaughany
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 03-07-10
                        • 45563

                        #221
                        Originally posted by MD
                        You guys are failing to point out that it's still a bad move.
                        yeah but that would be over-load!
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                        • KushMoney
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 07-11-11
                          • 658

                          #222
                          Originally posted by Grabaka
                          I called nunya bro. I told him you wanted to learn and this is how you pay meeeeeeeeee? :P jk
                          Oh yeah I know man. Thank you I appreciate that!

                          You and Nunya are legit MMA bettors. I see everyone on this board I remember everything.

                          I appreciate the help from the posters of this forum. We gotta team up and get loot.. fukk all the bitch shit. Make correct picks, find value in wagers, get money.
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                          • Grabaka
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-19-11
                            • 3216

                            #223
                            No problemo bro im just bugging you
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                            • NunyaBidness
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-26-09
                              • 9345

                              #224
                              Originally posted by KushMoney
                              Make correct picks, find value in wagers, get money.
                              You forgot 'penetrate bitches'.
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                              • Vaughany
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 03-07-10
                                • 45563

                                #225
                                lol
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