Bitcoin Price Tracking & Discussion -- 2025

[raiders72001]

My belief in Bitcoin is only growing. Love the Clemente 86% stat. As if Gensler can just shut off the spiggot.

Really think we see the price shoot up in the next 700 days. What is the availability of Coins going to look like? As we speak, how many coins are available on exchanges? It's not a big number. Coins going into cold storage.

You make good points. As is, those in the US can't trade at some of the biggest exchanges and can't get involved in ICOs. Asia dominates right now.

[raiders72001]

Binance.us halts deposits. They will halt withdrawals soon.

[flyingillini]

Binance is a dream come true for people in SEA. I know people that wash all their money with them. It’s so much better than anything else I’ve ever used.

[milwaukee mike]

alt's on a huge takedown today

fml

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Binance.us halts deposits. They will halt withdrawals soon.

Raider, you have any opinion on holding coins on PayPal? Thx.

[homie1975]

just bought more BTC at 26K right now

love it.

[raiders72001]

Raider, you have any opinion on holding coins on PayPal? Thx.

I don't like it. Paypal sends out 1099s on businesses that have income of $600 or more. I don't know what they are going to do with personal accounts if crypto prices rise and they make more than $600 because of the price increase.

I don't think you should use Paypal to deposit and withdraw cash from US sportsbooks. People should pay their taxes but Paypal seems too close to the IRS for me.

edit- found this for businesses.

2022	2023	More than $20,000 USD in gross sales from goods or services AND more than 200 transactions in the calendar year.
2023	2024	$600 USD or more in gross sales from goods or services in the calendar year.

[raiders72001]

Binance is going to continue crypto trading but they aren't going to allow cash deposits and withdrawals. Also, they aren't allowing trading of USD.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

I don't like it. Paypal sends out 1099s on businesses that have income of $600 or more. I don't know what they are going to do with personal accounts if crypto prices rise and they make more than $600 because of the price increase.

I don't think you should use Paypal to deposit and withdraw cash from US sportsbooks. People should pay their taxes but Paypal seems too close to the IRS for me.

edit- found this for businesses.

Thank you, Raiders. I bought some BTC via PayPal, when it was hard to get transactions thru exchanges.

But I keep hearing the warnings. What's to prevent the government from seizing Crypto assets on PayPal? Nothing, IMHO.

[Git Lo]

I don't like it. Paypal sends out 1099s on businesses that have income of $600 or more. I don't know what they are going to do with personal accounts if crypto prices rise and they make more than $600 because of the price increase.

I don't think you should use Paypal to deposit and withdraw cash from US sportsbooks. People should pay their taxes but Paypal seems too close to the IRS for me.

edit- found this for businesses.

Paypal will be treated like every other crypto app, not talking about binance but more like cashapp, etc. Paypal distanced themselves from ebay and now ebay charges taxes upfront but seems like they are running out of ways to run.

[raiders72001]

Paypal will be treated like every other crypto app, not talking about binance but more like cashapp, etc. Paypal distanced themselves from ebay and now ebay charges taxes upfront but seems like they are running out of ways to run.

They are changing the law from $20,000 and 200 transactions to $600. My problem with Paypal is that they sent my friend a 1099 from Paypal for using Draftkings and Fanduel. Paypal wasn't required to send anything at the time and they did.

[raiders72001]

Thank you, Raiders. I bought some BTC via PayPal, when it was hard to get transactions thru exchanges.

But I keep hearing the warnings. What's to prevent the government from seizing Crypto assets on PayPal? Nothing, IMHO.

agree. When the digital dollar comes it won't be long before they tell us how we can spend our money. Things could banned or limited.

[raiders72001]

Yeah I am super happy to be able to see this out too, if I can.

Doing all I can to avoid cashing any crypto.

I will go ahead and trade that XRP for ETH, thanks.

Bad timing on my part. Bitboy has been shilling XRP, not that he's able to move the XRP market but every little bit helps. He does move the market with low caps.

[Optional]

It's ok, I didn't end up doing anything. Bitcoin had spiked a little so the value I saw in swapping was less.

[biggie12]

Bad timing on my part. Bitboy has been shilling XRP, not that he's able to move the XRP market but every little bit helps. He does move the market with low caps.

Bitboy is irrelevant.

[raiders72001]

Bitboy is irrelevant.

His Twitter was hacked and people lost a $1m total in BEN.

[biggie12]

His Twitter was hacked and people lost a $1m total in BEN.

was it hacked REALLY hacked tho....

[Arky]

Heard of Prometheum?

Sounds like more hijinks brought to you by our corrupt government:

(About 8+ minutes)

I don't think I'll be signing up.....

[JIBBBY]

Hard to make money in Crypto these days! Stagnant. Better to just put your bank roll in a 3.75% interest earning saving account these days and wait it out.

[raiders72001]

Keep your BTC, keep your ETH, but I'm getting out of everything else located in the US. Looks like they're coming for all of them at a slow pace. The only thing that can stop BTC is quantum computing. Hopefully that gets solved before the computers speed up exponentially. Everything else is risky although ETH is now my biggest hold followed by BTC.

I'm leaving a ton on the table if I'm wrong but until this Ripple case is settled, I'm bailing.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Keep your BTC, keep your ETH, but I'm getting out of everything else located in the US. Looks like they're coming for all of them at a slow pace. The only thing that can stop BTC is quantum computing. Everything else is risky although ETH is now my biggest hold followed by BTC.

I'm leaving a ton on the table if I'm wrong but until this Ripple case is settled, I'm bailing.

Raider, tell me a little more about Ethereum. Give me a few reasons you like it.

[raiders72001]

was it hacked REALLY hacked tho....

good point, wouldn't put anything past him.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

good point, wouldn't put anything past him.

If I had to vote for any Crypto personality being a phony...it would be that guy. Nice handle, btw. Bitboy, lol.

[raiders72001]

Raider, tell me a little more about Ethereum. Give me a few reasons you like it.

Thousands of dApps built on it.
NFTs
Gaming
PoS for the environmentalists
Deflationary but this can be debated
Great devs
Smart contracts and DeFi will change the whole financial system
There are ETH futures
Upgrades will fix speed, fees and scalability

[raiders72001]

If I had to vote for any Crypto personality being a phony...it would be that guy. Nice handle, btw. Bitboy, lol.

His ego is going to send him to jail. He's picking on the wrong people even if he's right. I should have said that I did keep small amounts of some and BEN is one of those. I'm 99% sure that I'm throwing down the toilet. APE was another that I kept but not liking the move now. A couple of small caps I kept just in case they go Pepe. All the other large caps are gone except ETH and BTC.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Thousands of dApps built on it.
NFTs
Gaming
PoS for the environmentalists
Deflationary but this can be debated
Great devs
Smart contracts and DeFi will change the whole financial system
There are ETH futures
Upgrades will fix speed, fees and scalability

OK. Thx for posting, Raiders.

[raiders72001]

OK. Thx for posting, Raiders.

When the SEC named Cardano as a security it really made me start to think things over. I saw 4 categories for crypto and I didn't think the SEC would go after the first 3. When it went after the 3rd category, that means that everything in the 4th category has a target on it.

1. BTC
2. ETH
3. ADA
4. the rest

[raiders72001]

Even the DEXs aren't safe. Uniswap delisted BEN for a short time saying to me that they really aren't decentralized. The SEC could take the same stance as long as they can name an entity in charge to sue.

[biggie12]

Even the DEXs aren't safe. Uniswap delisted BEN for a short time saying to me that they really aren't decentralized. The SEC could take the same stance as long as they can name an entity in charge to sue.

im pretty sure ben pulled it from uniswap. Planned on only having it on thepsydex. Then Beneth and him had the fall out... killed any potential that whole ecosystem had.


Psydex will still get released. Ben wont do anything neither will psyop. The coins getting listed on psydex will do nice initals X's if u get in early because the suckers will still be around that pulled their inital out of those projects.

[raiders72001]

BlackRock May Have Found Way to Get SEC Approval for Spot Bitcoin ETF

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/black...153222693.html

[Arky]

Kucoin - still one of the better exchanges out there, IMO.

No KYC but this brings daily withdraw limits (max 20K USDT). I've never staked with them but I do not believe they mess with 1099's. (Someone correct me if I am wrong).

Where Is KuCoin Located?

The company is international, headquartered in the Seychelles and offices in Hong Kong and Singapore, with more than 20 million users worldwide and a presence in over 200 countries.

KuCoin Restricted Countries

The platform provides services to countries such as Turkey, India, Japan, Canada, the UK, Singapore and many others. The project is not licensed to operate in the US, but traders and crypto investors have the option to register their accounts.

I heard the SEC is looking into them but I'm not sure they can do much..... could be a ploy by the SEC to scare them away from the US....

One shouldn't keep their crypto on exchanges but if you do, Kucoin has been good to me. I've got a few cryptos that have a poor or no wallet so I just leave them at Kucoin. Hasn't been a problem - so far.

[raiders72001]

Kucoin - still one of the better exchanges out there, IMO.

No KYC but this brings daily withdraw limits (max 20K USDT). I've never staked with them but I do not believe they mess with 1099's. (Someone correct me if I am wrong).



I heard the SEC is looking into them but I'm not sure they can do much..... could be a ploy by the SEC to scare them away from the US....

One shouldn't keep their crypto on exchanges but if you do, Kucoin has been good to me. I've got a few cryptos that have a poor or no wallet so I just leave them at Kucoin. Hasn't been a problem - so far.

US can't touch KuCoin. NY already sued KuCoin and they even called ETH a security.

[Arky]

Keep your BTC, keep your ETH, but I'm getting out of everything else located in the US. Looks like they're coming for all of them at a slow pace. The only thing that can stop BTC is quantum computing. Hopefully that gets solved before the computers speed up exponentially. Everything else is risky although ETH is now my biggest hold followed by BTC.

I'm leaving a ton on the table if I'm wrong but until this Ripple case is settled, I'm bailing.

Going for a reset, eh?

The SEC sure has messed up the natural course of all things crypto, at least for the US. Obviously, they want no competition to the status quo (USD and/or an incoming CBDC).

In the last bull market, I think most of us were expecting Bitcoin to go to 100K and, of course, that didn't happen. Had I cashed out everything at 65K, I would have made a haul. But what to cash into? Tether or another stablecoin would have been a possibility. It would have been a very large tax to pay, though. Gold/Silver would have been an option but still taxable. Gold/Silver is not the easiest thing to make liquid. I am staying out of fiat and only cash into fiat when I need to pay bills/expenses.....

Strategies for taking profit in crypto are still kind of new, IMO. For example, I am mulling a strategy of cashing out (everything!) at the top or near top of the next bull market and then slowly buying back in during the next accumulation period/bear market. I'm a hodler at heart so I need to work on my taking-profit skills....

[raiders72001]

Going for a reset, eh?

The SEC sure has messed up the natural course of all things crypto, at least for the US. Obviously, they want no competition to the status quo (USD and/or an incoming CBDC).

In the last bull market, I think most of us were expecting Bitcoin to go to 100K and, of course, that didn't happen. Had I cashed out everything at 65K, I would have made a haul. But what to cash into? Tether or another stablecoin would have been a possibility. It would have been a very large tax to pay, though. Gold/Silver would have been an option but still taxable. Gold/Silver is not the easiest thing to make liquid. I am staying out of fiat and only cash into fiat when I need to pay bills/expenses.....

Strategies for taking profit in crypto are still kind of new, IMO. For example, I am mulling a strategy of cashing out (everything!) at the top or near top of the next bull market and then slowly buying back in during the next accumulation period/bear market. I'm a hodler at heart so I need to work on my taking-profit skills....

Yep. SEC definitely screwed things up but Blackrock could save the day. I'm leaning that it gets approved.

[Arky]

Yep. SEC definitely screwed things up but Blackrock could save the day. I'm leaning that it gets approved.

Blackrock is evil and they will probably get approved. Good thing is they can't mess with defi/decentralization...