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  • pattymayo
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-19-09
    • 10221

    #1
    Nitrogen site revamp
    Wow -- big changes at Nitrogen as of this morning. Entire sportsbook interface has changed, with the biggest change all of the live options they now offer.
  • 70'sMan
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-12-12
    • 744

    #2
    It is the same betting feed as 5 dimes Sports betting prime. They must have just outsourced everything.
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    • raiders72001
      Senior Member
      • 08-10-05
      • 11144

      #3
      Like it. https://blog.nitrogensports.eu/sport...sign-and-more/
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      • 70'sMan
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 02-12-12
        • 744

        #4
        Personally I would have preferred that they use the 5 dimes sports betting ultra feed.
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        • pattymayo
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-19-09
          • 10221

          #5
          Definitely some early kinks to work through. New sportsbook loads, then doesn't load. Time zone seems to not adjust.

          I would have preferred the Ultra platform too, but this is way better than what they had. And I'd imagine graded will be near instant.
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          • 70'sMan
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 02-12-12
            • 744

            #6
            I will miss the old format. They were slow to adjust lines on steam plays and that is probably why they changed. I imagine they were getting killed in the small markets. I find the grading at 5 dimes on the prime to be a little erratic. Sometimes instant sometimes slow. I prefer the ultra but over the past week I have noticed prime was offering more of the in play games. Not as many as ultra BUT they do offer asian handicap which ultra does not at least at 5 dimes.
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            • Ghenghis Kahn
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 19734

              #7
              Not a fan of this. It's fukking slow as hell
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 19734

                #8
                Also, why must I calculate the juice? For example. If the odds are -109, you can't just say you want to win 0.05 bitcoin. In order to do so, you have to calculate the juice and added in the stakes area. LOL WTF?
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                • ThaWoj
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-09-10
                  • 6764

                  #9
                  Having new live options is great, still no where near like 5dimes but at least something...and you can parlay a lot. Yesterday I parlayed a side and total in the same game, live.

                  They still need better pregame options. It's the nhl playoffs and you used to be able to bet regulation and a lot of 1st period options but there's barely any options or alt lines. No props either and series/futures are few and far between.
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                  • zamzack
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 05-01-19
                    • 19

                    #10
                    That's not what I have seen. It took me a while to figure it out (maybe because I'm used to the old layout), but the new provider offers multiple alt lines and additional options for each game/event. Every event displays a number (looks like +7, +5, +11, etc) corresponding to the available alt lines and props for that specific game. Outrights are futures. Perhaps this is not the most intuitive way to present the SB, but the available options are very complete.
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                    • 70'sMan
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 02-12-12
                      • 744

                      #11
                      I used Nitrogen because 1) they were slow to update lines and 2) They often listed leagues not covered by anyone other than b365. Croatian womens soccer and certain friendly matches come to mind 3) They paid very quickly without hassle (aside from when they implemented authenicator). Aside from 3 I am not certain what the point would be at keeping a balance there. I can get the same betting options at 5 dimes and I can utilize the other platforms with the same bankroll. I suppose I could use it to double hit when the sports betting prime at 5 dimes has a low limit but otherwise what would be the point.
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                      • raiders72001
                        Senior Member
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 11144

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 70'sMan
                        I used Nitrogen because 1) they were slow to update lines and 2) They often listed leagues not covered by anyone other than b365. Croatian womens soccer and certain friendly matches come to mind 3) They paid very quickly without hassle (aside from when they implemented authenicator). Aside from 3 I am not certain what the point would be at keeping a balance there. I can get the same betting options at 5 dimes and I can utilize the other platforms with the same bankroll. I suppose I could use it to double hit when the sports betting prime at 5 dimes has a low limit but otherwise what would be the point.
                        Anonymous and multiple payouts in a day are advantages over fiat books. There are some freebies too such as squares and NFL Survivor.
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                        • ThaWoj
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-09-10
                          • 6764

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 70'sMan
                          I used Nitrogen because 1) they were slow to update lines and 2) They often listed leagues not covered by anyone other than b365. Croatian womens soccer and certain friendly matches come to mind 3) They paid very quickly without hassle (aside from when they implemented authenicator). Aside from 3 I am not certain what the point would be at keeping a balance there. I can get the same betting options at 5 dimes and I can utilize the other platforms with the same bankroll. I suppose I could use it to double hit when the sports betting prime at 5 dimes has a low limit but otherwise what would be the point.
                          I agree, 3) is a big deal to me which trumps 5dimes unfortunately
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                          • zamzack
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 05-01-19
                            • 19

                            #14
                            "Croatian womens soccer"

                            Who bets on that crap??? LOL.
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                            • ThaWoj
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-09-10
                              • 6764

                              #15
                              Done with nitrogen. Can't place any bets, keeps saying ticket declined. Mobile or pc. They say message support. Other ppl in chat saying they have it too. Support hasn't answered yet. Chat mod said it could be for a number of reasons wtf..
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                              • pattymayo
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 05-19-09
                                • 10221

                                #16
                                Originally posted by zamzack
                                "Croatian womens soccer"

                                Who bets on that crap??? LOL.
                                Is it really that much different than a random MLB or NBA game?
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                                • 70'sMan
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 02-12-12
                                  • 744

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by zamzack
                                  "Croatian womens soccer"

                                  Who bets on that crap??? LOL.
                                  People with friends in Croatia. Big edges in small markets.
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                                  • zamzack
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 05-01-19
                                    • 19

                                    #18
                                    You mean crooks with hands in the cookie jar that don't mind fixing games? I rather pass.
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                                    • NYproGambler
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-11-18
                                      • 178

                                      #19
                                      well... now they are not processing the payout. I been waiting for 6 hours now myself... and some players said they been waiting over a day and their payout is still pending....
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                                      • chosen4th
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-29-12
                                        • 1106

                                        #20
                                        i cannot use them any more because of the 2 factor authentication and i dont have my phone anymore with the authenticator.. o well
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                                        • ThaWoj
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 6764

                                          #21
                                          Support said my declined tickets were from trying to make live bets where the odds kept changing...but I was betting vegas 15 min before the game started (saved me money lol). Anyways I logged out on both pc and mobile and logged back in and everything works
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                                          • 70'sMan
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 02-12-12
                                            • 744

                                            #22
                                            On the 5 dimes site the prime platform will time you out even though everything appears ok with odds updating etc. The only way to tell is when the bet is rejected for no reason. Not sure if that is the issue here but it sounds like it may be.
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                                            • zamzack
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 05-01-19
                                              • 19

                                              #23
                                              Contact CS and ask them to reset the 2FA.
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                                              • themike78
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-01-13
                                                • 4873

                                                #24
                                                Looks like they traded their slow grading for slow payouts. I hope this is temporary and they are just backed up because of the update. I think old site was a lot better. Very simple to place bets. Now it takes me forever to get a bet in. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet but seems difficult to navigate.
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                                                • ThaWoj
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                  • 6764

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by themike78
                                                  Looks like they traded their slow grading for slow payouts. I hope this is temporary and they are just backed up because of the update. I think old site was a lot better. Very simple to place bets. Now it takes me forever to get a bet in. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet but seems difficult to navigate.
                                                  after using it nonstop for 2 days i hate it. horrible layout.
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                                                  • Bsims
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-03-09
                                                    • 827

                                                    #26
                                                    Normally I hate change. In part, it's because I'm 76 years old and that attitude comes with age. But mostly it's because I save the odds web pages and have a program that reads these, parses the odds, and builds my own odds file. The program can then rapidly find the best lines. Changing the layout requires deciphering the new layout and program maintenance. I spend too much time doing this.

                                                    But, having said that, I had given up on Nitrogen because the lines weren't that much better and I don't like BTC only sports books (constantly having to convert records from BTC to USD). But, since they use the same bet processor as 5Dimes and allow more parlays, I decided to spend a day and adding code for these two books to my MLB program. A quick check of the morning run had two interesting observations.

                                                    1. The lines for the two books were different. For example, the 5Dimes linked site had the money line for the SD-OAK game at -118 each while the Nitrogen site had them at -109 each. At quick glance, it appears as though the Nitrogen version has better odds than the 5Dimes one.

                                                    2. When my program listed the best wagers that met my requirements, my normal books had all the picks except one. The Nitrogen site had the PHI-NYM under 10 at -112. The other sites ranged from -114 to -118.

                                                    I'll be checking periodically during the day. But it's possible that I'll have to reload my Nitrogen account and start including them in my routine processing to optimize the wagers I make.
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                                                    • EvilBettor
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-07-11
                                                      • 159

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ThaWoj
                                                      Done with nitrogen. Can't place any bets, keeps saying ticket declined. Mobile or pc. They say message support. Other ppl in chat saying they have it too. Support hasn't answered yet. Chat mod said it could be for a number of reasons wtf..
                                                      Totally agree with you! I have been with them for what seems like forever! They treat the long-term bettors like crap in the last few months I have been with them! This place is pathetic now. It is no longer "the best" or "A+" book. Cannot make bets without site errors or declined bets. If you happen to get bets through, there is a good chance they will cancel the bet because of their odds provider issues/errors. If you complain in the chat about their own issues, you will be banned! My last straw was placing wagers that were "declined" but yet added to my betslip! They will NOT admit any kind of problems with their site after this BETA upgrade! They always blame the end user! Stay away! You've been warned.
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                                                      • pattymayo
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-19-09
                                                        • 10221

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by EvilBettor
                                                        Totally agree with you! I have been with them for what seems like forever! They treat the long-term bettors like crap in the last few months I have been with them! This place is pathetic now. It is no longer "the best" or "A+" book. Cannot make bets without site errors or declined bets. If you happen to get bets through, there is a good chance they will cancel the bet because of their odds provider issues/errors. If you complain in the chat about their own issues, you will be banned! My last straw was placing wagers that were "declined" but yet added to my betslip! They will NOT admit any kind of problems with their site after this BETA upgrade! They always blame the end user! Stay away! You've been warned.
                                                        Interesting. I've been using their new platform often these last few weeks and really haven't had any issues. I've had a few live bets get declined, but it doesn't then show up on my betslip. The money moves to pending for a moment, and then goes back to available balance.

                                                        I primarily bet soccer, so I'm not crazy about the new format. Goal totals are annoying when pre-match they only offer 2.5 but it's juiced to -350 or worse. You have to wait until the match starts to see a 3.5 or whatever. And they hardly ever let you just bet whole numbers in soccer totals which is really annoying now.

                                                        Grading is definitely much faster now too.

                                                        I tend to overlook these things when I'm still receiving withdrawals from them in an hour or so. Can't beat that.
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                                                        • littlekona
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-19-15
                                                          • 5242

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pattymayo
                                                          Interesting. I've been using their new platform often these last few weeks and really haven't had any issues. I've had a few live bets get declined, but it doesn't then show up on my betslip. The money moves to pending for a moment, and then goes back to available balance.

                                                          I primarily bet soccer, so I'm not crazy about the new format. Goal totals are annoying when pre-match they only offer 2.5 but it's juiced to -350 or worse. You have to wait until the match starts to see a 3.5 or whatever. And they hardly ever let you just bet whole numbers in soccer totals which is really annoying now.

                                                          Grading is definitely much faster now too.

                                                          I tend to overlook these things when I'm still receiving withdrawals from them in an hour or so. Can't beat that.
                                                          the new format for soccer BLOWS. Esp if you want to do parlays on 1st half Blows 2X
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                                                          • zamzack
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 05-01-19
                                                            • 19

                                                            #30
                                                            EVILBETTOR...What a bunch of crap..I have been an active player for years and the switch to the new provider is probably the best that could happen to Nitro. You just said it all, you are one of the chat mofos that piss people off with their stupid complaints and their $5 action. Just another sourpuss that feels entitled to talk like a whale.
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                                                            • pattymayo
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-19-09
                                                              • 10221

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by zamzack
                                                              EVILBETTOR...What a bunch of crap..I have been an active player for years and the switch to the new provider is probably the best that could happen to Nitro. You just said it all, you are one of the chat mofos that piss people off with their stupid complaints and their $5 action. Just another sourpuss that feels entitled to talk like a whale.
                                                              True. HE's saying you can't get live bets in, they cancel bets, bets declined.. I've been betting basically all day on the new site for the last 2 weeks and have not had one wagering issue. One time an obscure U19 Iceland soccer bet I made took hours to grade (it was a loss anyway) but really aside from gripes I have with the layout/soccer lines I think everything is good there.
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                                                              • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 19734

                                                                #32
                                                                The new layout is actually ok. It's not as laggy as the first day but they definitely lowered the limits. How can you have max limit for NFL 2nd half for under 0.02 BTC? What a joke. But the grading is much faster. It doesn't take 2 hours to grade winning tickets anymore.
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                                                                • zamzack
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 05-01-19
                                                                  • 19

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                  The new layout is actually ok. It's not as laggy as the first day but they definitely lowered the limits. How can you have max limit for NFL 2nd half for under 0.02 BTC? What a joke. But the grading is much faster. It doesn't take 2 hours to grade winning tickets anymore.
                                                                  I contacted their support a few times regarding the limits and they raised mine in just a few hours. They also confirmed that general limits will be progressively increased.
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                                                                  • EvilBettor
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-07-11
                                                                    • 159

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by zamzack
                                                                    EVILBETTOR...What a bunch of crap..I have been an active player for years and the switch to the new provider is probably the best that could happen to Nitro. You just said it all, you are one of the chat mofos that piss people off with their stupid complaints and their $5 action. Just another sourpuss that feels entitled to talk like a whale.
                                                                    The only crap is how you defend them as if you work there! Best thing? HAHA! They STILL have bad/incorrect lines probably worse than they used to!

                                                                    Just because it hasn't happened to you...doesn't mean it won't happen to others! I hope it happens to you eventually though because you are asking for it and nothing will be done about it from Nitrogen! But, you probably wouldn't even notice or miss the funds! I've been there since the beginning! You talk like you have been there for less than a year, most likely just showed up after the update. The complaints are valid when they have so many issues especially with the simplest of things on their site (placing a single bet)! The moderators there are just like you, cannot accept the truth about this BETA outsourced piece of trash site! Have you noticed there are no low number users left? I wonder why!
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                                                                    • zamzack
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 05-01-19
                                                                      • 19

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I've been using Nitro for 4 years now. I understand that you may not like the site or the changes, but assuming that your opinion is an universal thought is childish and obtuse. Nitro has always responded, and yeah, they may have taken their time to fix some issues, but they have always responded.

                                                                      I guess you have full access to their logs and daily numbers, otherwise how the hell do you know if users are leaving? Oh, wait, you don't, all you are doing is talking shit and projecting your bitterness.
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