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  • 70'sMan
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-12-12
    • 744

    #281
    Wow amazing. I got out of there a few weeks ago. Just too much trouble.
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    • PharaohUB
      SBR MVP
      • 01-23-07
      • 4865

      #282
      Originally posted by Barrakuda
      In case anyone is on the fence about Fairlay, this should settle it for you (from the publicly available trollbox -- I am not the guy asking the question). LOL:


      bryyguy89: hi, why was my bet on this market (https://fairlay.com/market/thunder-p-vs-team-x-1/) voided? the bet was a win 2-1 for team X. two following links have proof https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Liga_Pro_Gaming/Season_2 http://en.game-tournaments.com/dota-...r-awaken-69834



      ● ognjen-support: The reason for this was probably within the rules but we are unable to provide it for free. So if you want additional checking, request it via 5mBTC@fairlay.com. Please note that by contacting us through this email you agree that a fee up to 5mBTC might be deducted for each ticket.



      bryyguy89: am i guaranteed to be charged? that seems unfair to charge $50 just to clarify why something was misgraded, isnt that what this box is for?



      ● ognjen-support: Yes, but we are still unable to handle requests like this for free, so you can send an email and we reserve the right to charge 1mBTC for each 6 minutes spent on your ticket (maximum 30 minutes).
      I've never been charged when it's their issue. They say that they will charge but i've never been charged FWIW
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      • littlekona
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-19-15
        • 5242

        #283
        Originally posted by PharaohUB
        I've never been charged when it's their issue. They say that they will charge but i've never been charged FWIW
        same here i have had 5+ issues with late scratch in horses sent support message and never a charge...also if u see chat after that quote they say if it is an error there is no charge....to many scammers knowing they bet past post trying to scam deserved to be charged
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        • DroopyDog
          SBR MVP
          • 11-03-16
          • 1255

          #284
          Ever experience deposit delays? my deposit has 10+ confirms and not credited. Sent email, no response.

          Shit like this makes me nervous.
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          • littlekona
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-19-15
            • 5242

            #285
            Originally posted by DroopyDog
            Ever experience deposit delays? my deposit has 10+ confirms and not credited. Sent email, no response.

            Shit like this makes me nervous.
            I have a few times out of hundreds ive done...always pops up though nothing to worry...try refresh log in and out sometimes that updates
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            • DroopyDog
              SBR MVP
              • 11-03-16
              • 1255

              #286
              Never heard this before... took 15 hours for my deposit to post.

              Told me they "ran out of credits to post the deposit" and have to move BTC around first.

              I am immediately withdrawing most of my deposit... Im sure there is a legit reason for "running out of credits" but, not gonna leave myself too exposed there anymore.
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              • littlekona
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-19-15
                • 5242

                #287
                Originally posted by DroopyDog
                Never heard this before... took 15 hours for my deposit to post.

                Told me they "ran out of credits to post the deposit" and have to move BTC around first.

                I am immediately withdrawing most of my deposit... Im sure there is a legit reason for "running out of credits" but, not gonna leave myself too exposed there anymore.
                From what i here it is a security measure to protect players funds as that is a top priority....Some big deposits where made with the UK soccer starting back...Not sure how that works but no reason not to trust them...They also said they are working on a fix so it so does not happen again...I just made a 20 mbtc deposit and it was credited a few mins after 1 confirmation fyi
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 60873

                  #288
                  Ran across a 4 year old post from a Fairlay founder today talking about how they were surprised their most active markets were soccer world cup related in 2014, as they never planned it as a sports betting exchange.

                  .
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                  • littlekona
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-19-15
                    • 5242

                    #289
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    Ran across a 4 year old post from a Fairlay founder today talking about how they were surprised their most active markets were soccer world cup related in 2014, as they never planned it as a sports betting exchange.

                    http://forum.bitcoinhivemind.com/index.php?topic=126.0
                    haha those guys are brilliant technology guys and the site gets better and better as they are starting to understand the sports side more now...funny bunch brilliant Tech geeks didn't realize that sports gambling was the ticket to success
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                    • icon
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-09-18
                      • 3404

                      #290
                      Originally posted by littlekona
                      I opened account there as I see they have UK horse racing...I played around little and totally confused by the website on how to buy or lay bets...Also can you do parlays? Looks like a good concept the site but I am totally overwhelmed by layout...someone who represents them should or SBR should do a video on how too wager and lay bets ect on the site
                      Ahh the good ole days ! Back before Kona knew anything about Fairlay!
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                      • littlekona
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-19-15
                        • 5242

                        #291
                        best advise I can give is learn exchanges..It is tough at first since as most of us are stuck in typical sportsbook box. But I will say that it has made my wagering options and odds so much better between Fairlay and AC88 (Orbitx/9Wickets/Pinny) I am so glad I found out about them here on SBR
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                        • Darkside Magick
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-28-10
                          • 12638

                          #292
                          Fairlay is the best option for USA bettors and it is not even close
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                          • ping-pong-pop
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 02-15-19
                            • 24

                            #293
                            Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                            Fairlay is the best option for USA bettors and it is not even close
                            Not US-based but it got me thinking, how can they take US bettors as customers without getting busted?
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                            • littlekona
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-19-15
                              • 5242

                              #294
                              Originally posted by ping-pong-pop
                              Not US-based but it got me thinking, how can they take US bettors as customers without getting busted?
                              Same way every other offshore book does...Owners Never visit USA...
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                              • ping-pong-pop
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 02-15-19
                                • 24

                                #295
                                Originally posted by littlekona
                                Same way every other offshore book does...Owners Never visit USA...
                                OK, that was easy
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                                • littlekona
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-19-15
                                  • 5242

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by ping-pong-pop
                                  OK, that was easy
                                  Not sure of site offhand but I do remember reading offshore owner visiting USA and getting arrested
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                                  • icon
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-09-18
                                    • 3404

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by littlekona
                                    Not sure of site offhand but I do remember reading offshore owner visiting USA and getting arrested
                                    Has happened more than once. There are probably lots of outstanding warrants for bookies that would be enforced should they try to enter the USA.

                                    USA is a flyover country for many people these days.
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                                    • eaglesfan371
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-08-19
                                      • 4079

                                      #298
                                      It seems like the majority of bets I make, or at least some, have 0.01 mbtc taken out of my balance with no explanation when making the bet (this is not the after win commission). I am not a market maker, I am taking offered odds. Randomly 0.01 mbtc will disappear. It is not much but it has happened many times and I don't understand why.

                                      Anyone know?
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                                      • Darkside Magick
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-28-10
                                        • 12638

                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                        It seems like the majority of bets I make, or at least some, have 0.01 mbtc taken out of my balance with no explanation when making the bet (this is not the after win commission). I am not a market maker, I am taking offered odds. Randomly 0.01 mbtc will disappear. It is not much but it has happened many times and I don't understand why.

                                        Anyone know?
                                        Is the amount on your statement... The only reason I'm asking is that fees are only taken on a winning bet.
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                                        • mrpapageorgio
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-07-17
                                          • 2974

                                          #300
                                          This is weird, I did decide to give Fairlay a shot again since that had decent odds on the alt total for last night's game, so I made a deposit to strictly bet the over. I now see my bet + winnings on hold which I expected, but now I see my available balance showing a -0.01 mbtc balance. I go to the statement which shows my bet paid that says "Settlement with commission" then another line showing -0.01 with the same comment. Anyone of the Fairlay users knows what that is?
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                                          • danshan11
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-08-17
                                            • 4101

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                            It seems like the majority of bets I make, or at least some, have 0.01 mbtc taken out of my balance with no explanation when making the bet (this is not the after win commission). I am not a market maker, I am taking offered odds. Randomly 0.01 mbtc will disappear. It is not much but it has happened many times and I don't understand why.

                                            Anyone know?
                                            the thing usually is that, the line they show is only a few decimals displayed on the screen but in reality, it may be a few more .
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                                            • Darkside Magick
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 05-28-10
                                              • 12638

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                              This is weird, I did decide to give Fairlay a shot again since that had decent odds on the alt total for last night's game, so I made a deposit to strictly bet the over. I now see my bet + winnings on hold which I expected, but now I see my available balance showing a -0.01 mbtc balance. I go to the statement which shows my bet paid that says "Settlement with commission" then another line showing -0.01 with the same comment. Anyone of the Fairlay users knows what that is?

                                              The first line should be the amount that you won

                                              The second line is the actual commission
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                                              • mrpapageorgio
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-07-17
                                                • 2974

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                The first line should be the amount that you won

                                                The second line is the actual commission
                                                So shouldn’t it come out of my reserve balance then? Why make my actual balance negative?
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                                                • Darkside Magick
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-28-10
                                                  • 12638

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                                  So shouldn’t it come out of my reserve balance then? Why make my actual balance negative?
                                                  One would think that... But if you look at your statement... Winning are paid first then commissions are taken second

                                                  So your winnings was paid and put on hold and then your commission is taken as a negative

                                                  When your hold is over then the winnings will be added to the negative balance
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                                                  • littlekona
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-19-15
                                                    • 5242

                                                    #305
                                                    Originally posted by danshan11
                                                    the thing usually is that, the line they show is only a few decimals displayed on the screen but in reality, it may be a few more .

                                                    I think your correct. I will get a message like 9.99 matched out of 10mbtc yet matched bet shows 10 on occasions....
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                                                    • danshan11
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-08-17
                                                      • 4101

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by littlekona
                                                      I think your correct. I will get a message like 9.99 matched out of 10mbtc yet matched bet shows 10 on occasions....
                                                      I concur LOL, anyway fairlay is still the absolute best, I guess the only reason people dont use it is because of the no parlays but man on lines you cant even come close, my profits have doubled since I switched, literally doubled!
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                                                      • eaglesfan371
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-08-19
                                                        • 4079

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by littlekona
                                                        I think your correct. I will get a message like 9.99 matched out of 10mbtc yet matched bet shows 10 on occasions....
                                                        I will go over the statement and take a look, it might be this. But its basically that, 9.99 matched yet shows up as 10 gone and the total balance in ( ) reflect minus 0.01.
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                                                        • littlekona
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-19-15
                                                          • 5242

                                                          #308
                                                          Fairlay is turning into SBR exchange....every time i log into and check chat it’s all sbr guys lol
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                                                          • danshan11
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-08-17
                                                            • 4101

                                                            #309
                                                            I think me and you harping about it all the time helped it! Fairlay should pay me a finders fee! LOL
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                                                            • Darkside Magick
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-28-10
                                                              • 12638

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by littlekona
                                                              Fairlay is turning into SBR exchange....every time i log into and check chat it’s all sbr guys lol
                                                              Maybe I should join chat....i love the place
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                                                              • danshan11
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-08-17
                                                                • 4101

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                                Maybe I should join chat....i love the place
                                                                I am on the chat 24 7 same username there
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                                                                • eaglesfan371
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-08-19
                                                                  • 4079

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Always said the commission was so small

                                                                  Then I saw that total commission taken was 0.064 BTC ~$330 USD.

                                                                  Damn, it adds up lol. By far the best lines available though, worth it.
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                                                                  • Optional
                                                                    Administrator
                                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                                    • 60873

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                                                    Always said the commission was so small

                                                                    Then I saw that total commission taken was 0.064 BTC ~$330 USD.

                                                                    Damn, it adds up lol. By far the best lines available though, worth it.
                                                                    as a percentage of bets it's probably hardly any vig.

                                                                    Imagine the tally if we kept track of the vig in normal book bets
                                                                    .
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                                                                    • eaglesfan371
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-08-19
                                                                      • 4079

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      as a percentage of bets it's probably hardly any vig.

                                                                      Imagine the tally if we kept track of the vig in normal book bets
                                                                      Oh I know, I've done the math. It doesn't even add a cent to the line in american odds. Nitrogen adds 2-5 cents to each side of fairlay/pinnacle odds, so still by far the best price.
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                                                                      • eaglesfan371
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-08-19
                                                                        • 4079

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Hey guys,

                                                                        Check your statements if you make any live bets, a settlement tonight took too much commission. My commission rate after deductions is 0.081%. I won 86.2 mbtc in a live bet tonight and 0.16 mbtc was taken when 0.07 mbtc should have been.

                                                                        I have "on hold" balance enabled so I am not subject to the extra 0.1% commission for that.

                                                                        Not a huge deal but it can add up so tomorrow I will go through my history and make sure other bets have been settled correctly. Will update with Fairlay's response.

                                                                        Edit: Very strange. Looks like a one-off type issue. My other live bet just graded +28.52 mbtc and they only took 0.02 mbtc commission (which would be correct at 0.081%). Definitely an error on their part for the +86.2 bet (which was in tennis).
                                                                        Last edited by eaglesfan371; 04-18-19, 12:57 AM.
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