BTC Pros why is this trans taking so long to confirm take look????
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littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#1BTC Pros why is this trans taking so long to confirm take look????Tags: None -
nyyanks773SBR Wise Guy
- 12-26-10
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#2Just wondering what book? Most likely a low miner fee but I'm not an expertComment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#3Nitrogen which is strange as they normally do instant credit for wagering and then after 1 confirmation withdrawals or poker...so there is something weird w. this transComment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#4Size looks normal and fees look right.
You should try a rebroadcast I think
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(dont be put off by all the writing on that page... it's just 2 steps.).Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#5I just did and followed instructions...It says transaction already exists....Originally posted by OptionalSize looks normal and fees look right.
You should try a rebroadcast I think
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(dont be put off by all the writing on that page... it's just 2 steps.)Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#6That means it must have at least 1 confirmation.Originally posted by littlekona
I just did and followed instructions...It says transaction already exists....
Not sure what it could be then. All looks fine to me..Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#7Could the coins you sent not have been fully confirmed before you passed them on maybe?.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#8No they where confirmed...I did send this one though about 10 minutes after initial posted one 18yc37DAKn3bNrWEuHJz8AmPwyPUQPwmiE take a look as its bytes are higher could this be reason But it was sent afterOriginally posted by OptionalCould the coins you sent not have been fully confirmed before you passed them on maybe?Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#9That 'appears' to be right too. bytes about 33% more and tx fee about 33% higher than the other one.Originally posted by littlekona
No they where confirmed...I did send this one though about 10 minutes after initial posted one 18yc37DAKn3bNrWEuHJz8AmPwyPUQPwmiE take a look as its bytes are higher could this be reason But it was sent after
Hopefully someone with more tech knowledge than me will see thread and be able to tell us more.
Maybe try an email to blockchain.info support?.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#10Yea I emailed got standard response they have no control over blockchain miners...strange there has to be something to this why it's not yet confirmrdComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#12Ty raiders...Says 0 balance and 0 unconfirmed amount...both say same what does that meanComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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#13Did you click "View Transactions" then "Pending Transactions"?Originally posted by littlekonaTy raiders...Says 0 balance and 0 unconfirmed amount...both say same what does that mean
Then click "Tx"Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#14Yes 18yc37DAKn3bNrWEuHJz8AmPwyPUQPwmiE says zero and nothing else... Strange as I sent to direct bet and they received it as status on there site says settlement in process they are waiting for the 1 confirmation...The other one I posted does not show either just previous ones as I've sent to that address before...Any ideas?? It's going on 2 daysOriginally posted by raiders72001Did you click "View Transactions" then "Pending Transactions"?
Then click "Tx"Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#15Well it came back To wallet Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.
Wonder what hat will happen to my Directbet winning wager still says settlement in processComment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#16I'd guess they will cancel it if you do nothing.Originally posted by littlekonaWell it came back To wallet Transaction rejected by our node. Reason: Transaction was previously accepted but has been pruned from our database.
Wonder what hat will happen to my Directbet winning wager still says settlement in process
Have you contacted them to say you got an error and ask how to resend it? (if they will let you).Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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#17Hopefully DB will pay the win but in the past they have free rolled players. They keep losers, in situations where the original wager isn't automatically refunded, and just refund winners.Originally posted by OptionalI'd guess they will cancel it if you do nothing.
Have you contacted them to say you got an error and ask how to resend it? (if they will let you)
When there was a problem with Ethereum wallets, DB accepted the wager, 2 of 3 bets won, the third was winning on a 3 team parlay, DB canceled the bet claiming input error.
DB hand money in hand and instead of paying out the winning parlay, they refunded the player.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#18Actually a bit of googling makes it sound not so simple.
That message can appear when someone attacks the network and some random transaction numbers get modified. So your transaction may still be in the memorypool somewhere but under a different ID.
Here is a bit of an explanation I found...
possible that your 2nd TX used the change from your first. Not sure if you are familiar with change, but your bitcoin balance consist of inputs you can use. These are transactions you have received in the past. Similar to bills you have to use them entirely. E.g. if you received 1 BTC in a single transaction in the past and want to spend 0.4 BTC now. You (or your wallet) would create a TX that uses the 1 BTC as input and create two outputs. One output for 0.4 to the address you selected as recipient and one output for 0.6 to an address that belongs to your wallet. Electrum even shows a list of change addresses IIRC. It is possible for you to use the 0.6 send back to yourself in another transaction before the 1st TX is confirmed. If however the 1st TX gets modified and is confirmed with a different ID the 2nd TX links to an input that does no longer exist. This is because the inputs are identified by the transaction id. Usually TX IDs do not change so its not an issue. While the attacker is modifing random transactions this is a problem and would result in what you describe. The 2nd TX essentially vanished from the network as it became invalid the second the modified 1st transaction was confirmed.
Can't see a solution though...
Maybe directbet got your deposit and its just under another ID and all will be ok? (he says hopefully).Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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#19His transaction just went in the rejection pile https://blockchain.info/rejected but DB has also been known to confiscate money claiming double spend attempt.Originally posted by OptionalActually a bit of googling makes it sound not so simple.
That message can appear when someone attacks the network and some random transaction numbers get modified. So your transaction may still be in the memorypool somewhere but under a different ID.
Here is a bit of an explanation I found...
possible that your 2nd TX used the change from your first. Not sure if you are familiar with change, but your bitcoin balance consist of inputs you can use. These are transactions you have received in the past. Similar to bills you have to use them entirely. E.g. if you received 1 BTC in a single transaction in the past and want to spend 0.4 BTC now. You (or your wallet) would create a TX that uses the 1 BTC as input and create two outputs. One output for 0.4 to the address you selected as recipient and one output for 0.6 to an address that belongs to your wallet. Electrum even shows a list of change addresses IIRC. It is possible for you to use the 0.6 send back to yourself in another transaction before the 1st TX is confirmed. If however the 1st TX gets modified and is confirmed with a different ID the 2nd TX links to an input that does no longer exist. This is because the inputs are identified by the transaction id. Usually TX IDs do not change so its not an issue. While the attacker is modifing random transactions this is a problem and would result in what you describe. The 2nd TX essentially vanished from the network as it became invalid the second the modified 1st transaction was confirmed.
Can't see a solution though...
Maybe directbet got your deposit and its just under another ID and all will be ok? (he says hopefully)Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#20I emailed them I'll update when I get an answer...so far my expirerence with them has been good so we will see it's a small wager only about $20 or so payout we will see...it's not like it was my fault or intentionalComment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#21Thanks for betting at DirectBet.
If the initial bet transfer will not confirm by the Bitcoin network, the bet
will be canceled regardless of the result. In this case no payout will be
issued. Similarly, if your bet is lost, your account will not be charged for
it.
I apology for the inconvenience caused, but we can't pay out bets in such
cases because no wager was ever at risk. Otherwise players could abuse it
and only pay for their bets when they win.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#22Did you at least get your deposit back in your bitcoin wallet?.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
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#23its still listed as settlement in process....what's strange is that it was confirmed bet on there end it was not rejected...I'm sure I'll get it back as there cs support has been good just strange at least it was only like 20$ or so profit not bigger betOriginally posted by OptionalDid you at least get your deposit back in your bitcoin wallet?Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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#24Their CS is very good but they do have a flaw in their system.Originally posted by littlekonaits still listed as settlement in process....what's strange is that it was confirmed bet on there end it was not rejected...I'm sure I'll get it back as there cs support has been good just strange at least it was only like 20$ or so profit not bigger bet
If the bet slip says, "wager accepted" , then the bet should be good. In the past, DB has accepted wagers and then later canceled.
The other problem is if there is some type of hangup in the blockchain, caused by a wallet on either end, you won't know if you have a bet or not with DB until the problem is fixed.
It's conceivable that they can accept or reject the bet with only 5 minutes remaining in the game.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#25My sent transaction was credited back to my wallet...I asked if they would credit winning minus the wager amount but they wont..here is ticket that won https://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtm...8AmPwyPUQPwmiE
They sent this message with info on there wallet...Anyone have info or used?
We confirm bets instantly with 0 confirmation, but require 1 confirmation
before issuing payouts. This is required to ensure that we actually receive
the coins that you send.
In this case your bet transfer failed to confirm by the Bitcoin network due
to an error in your wallet. As a result we have not received the coins for
this wager and consequently the bet was canceled.
We can not issue any refund or payout because we have not received any wager
for this bet, as you can see here in the blockchain :
You need to contact your wallet provider and ask them why they sent out a
transfer that failed to confirm.
To prevent this from happening again in the future we recommend that you use
our Playing Wallet to fund your Sport bets. This will ensure that all your
bet transfers will confirm. It's also free, we cover the transactional fees.
Check it out :
If you need any further assistance, please contact your wallet provider
first and forward us their explanation as to the reason for their wallet
error.
Best Regards,
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DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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#261. It doesn't have anything to do with your wallet provider. There's a flaw with DB.Originally posted by littlekonaMy sent transaction was credited back to my wallet...I asked if they would credit winning minus the wager amount but they wont..They sent this message with info on there wallet...Anyone have info or used?
We confirm bets instantly with 0 confirmation, but require 1 confirmation
before issuing payouts. This is required to ensure that we actually receive
the coins that you send.
In this case your bet transfer failed to confirm by the Bitcoin network due
to an error in your wallet. As a result we have not received the coins for
this wager and consequently the bet was canceled.
We can not issue any refund or payout because we have not received any wager
for this bet, as you can see here in the blockchain :
You need to contact your wallet provider and ask them why they sent out a
transfer that failed to confirm.
To prevent this from happening again in the future we recommend that you use
our Playing Wallet to fund your Sport bets. This will ensure that all your
bet transfers will confirm. It's also free, we cover the transactional fees.
Check it out :
If you need any further assistance, please contact your wallet provider
first and forward us their explanation as to the reason for their wallet
error.
Best Regards,
--
DirectBet - LIVE Sports Betting with Bitcoins !
2. The money was returned to your wallet because it was rejected. DB did not return the money
3. If you bet with DB, their wallet does work. It's the same as depositing with any other book.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#27I'll try there wallet as I do many small horse plays and that might help..they did give me a 10mbtc free play for trouble FYI ty guys for replysComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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#28DB uses Betfair lines adding a lot more take.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#29yea I wish I could use bet fair or another similar book but in USA only new jersey can use betfair...The direct bet juice is very high sometimes sick in many cases but during some live games, underdogs and Horse bets there is some value to be found...Plus it allows for live parlays and horse parlays which i likeOriginally posted by raiders72001DB uses Betfair lines adding a lot more take.Comment -
OptionalAdministrator
- 06-10-10
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#30Live parlays.
That sounds like it might be challenging to get on in time every time.
Interesting though.Comment -
littlekonaSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-19-15
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#31Yea they offer but you do have to watch scores carefully and they do have a no more bets accepted notification and reject some if a goal scores as I do mostly soccer...the one hit that caused this posting was a live parlay soccer wager.Comment
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