I know nothing about Baseball but it looks like they are a way better team than the braves? So can someone explain? Thanks
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Braves are in a must win game with their "ace" on the mound. The Phillies will have an assortment of pitchers on the mound tonight starting with plumpy joe blantonComment -
Braves are a must win situation and Blanton is a gascan. I am still gonna pound the Phils at +178Comment -
They will lay down so that they either face the Braves in the playoffs or force a playoff between them and the Cards to fatigue them even more.Comment -
Good point. I was thinking this would be a good time for the Phils to take a dive. I think the would rather face the Braves instead of the Cardinals based on the season records or at least make the Cards earn their spot against the Phillies for a wildcard. Maybe I will reconsider the Phillies tonight.Originally posted by MrShrinkComment -
So would be bad to bet on Philly today?Comment -
Value is on the Phillies but either way. Don't go overboard on it.Comment -
All part of Charlie's masterplan which began with them forfeitting the last 2 games against the Cards as soon as they clinched. Atlanta and StL sportswriters should be creating him a shrine right now.Originally posted by MikailComment -
Whoa you're giving Charlie too much credit there. I don't think he's smart enough to think of a plan like thatOriginally posted by MrShrink
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I could see the Phillies throwing a curve tonight and put a beating on the Braves though. The way they last few games of the season go. It wouldn't shock me at all. Just look at the way these games have gone lately.Comment -
You don't think he's smart enough to allow the Cards to exit the series against them only 2.5 games back from the Braves and force both clubs to use up their players to the last pitch of the regular season, and possibly more? When his club has already clinched the division? I think you're judging his intelligence by his appearance and the way he talks. I'm sure he'd love to sit at a poker table with you.Originally posted by solid152Whoa you're giving Charlie too much credit there. I don't think he's smart enough to think of a plan like thatComment -
Well yeah today would be a good game to "lay down" to force the playoff. But you were saying he pre conceived this since the cardinal series which I don't think is the case. Charlie doesn't like to lose games. It's not like he can predict the the braves losing for the past 2 weeks or the cardinals winning.Originally posted by MrShrinkComment -
I gave phils a shot tonight parlayed with orioles pays 6:1
and FYI hamels is pitching a couple innings tonight after blanton goes about 4 inn.Comment -
Atlanta cant score runs period....Comment -
The wild card team cannot face the division winner in the first round. Therefore, if the Braves were to win the wild card, the Phillies would play whoever ends up having the worse record between the Brewers and Diamondbacks by the end of tonight (Diamondbacks are considered having the better record in a tie since they won the season series).Originally posted by Mikail
If the Cardinals win the wild card, the Phillies will play the Cardinals while the Brewers and Diamondbacks face each other.
Check the twisty twurvy infographic on the front page of http://www.mlb.com .Comment -
never lay -180 on a game unless you can confirm with indisputable inside information that your grandmother is pitching for the the team you are betting against. good luck!Comment -
thanx.Originally posted by Oakland A's HatComment -
Yeah... They probably lost about 10 games in a row, in which they were playing tons of minor leaguers, after having already clinched the division, and having not lost HALF that many in a row alllll year, and against crappy teams... By accident.... And THEN.... Charlie recovered from the stroke he had that caused him to forget how to manage a baseball club... Just in time for the playoffs! Phew! That was a close one!Originally posted by solid152Comment -
I think this notion that a baseball team is in a must win situation equates to an edge...is entirely the wrong way to approach a game. In other sports, I think it factors in, but not in baseball. The objective of teams...winning teams...is to keep loose. Pressure doesn't amount to an improved performance, in fact I would argue that it hurts a baseball players success at the plate or on the mound. Certain players will be as aggressive as they have been in this series and in the previous series. In the minds of the Braves, each of the games against the phillies has been a must win situation...but it has not changed must. If you want to fade Blanton...because, well he's Blanton, that's somewhat understandable. I'm taking a shot at the over...we'll see what happens
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Well put. Although, following that train of thought, the braves should make it easier on blanton as they should continue to struggle at the plate. And if charlie wants toOriginally posted by High3rEl3m3ntI think this notion that a baseball team is in a must win situation equates to an edge...is entirely the wrong way to approach a game. In other sports, I think it factors in, but not in baseball. The objective of teams...winning teams...is to keep loose. Pressure doesn't amount to an improved performance, in fact I would argue that it hurts a baseball players success at the plate or on the mound. Certain players will be as aggressive as they have been in this series and in the previous series. In the minds of the Braves, each Ooooooof the games against the phillies has been a must win situation...but it has not changed must. If you want to fade Blanton...because, well he's Blanton, that's somewhat understandable. I'm taking a shot at the over...we'll see what happens
Trot out a lineup that he knows shouldn't be a problem for hudson, he will.Comment -
Do you like wasting money?Originally posted by bringdownthehousComment -
Cards have a winning record against them. They don't want them in the playoffs. If they are there, I'm sure thief like them to be as tired as possible by the time they play them.Originally posted by Oakland A's HatComment -
If it was any pitcher but Blanton, I would agree. Atlanta has had some recent success against Blanton and I believe that will help them to have a healthier approach offensively. Pitching-wise...both pitchers have added pressure on themselves tonight. One is hoping to carry the team on his shoulders and the other is unsure where he stands with his team and his role in the playoffs. I honestly can't tell you who is going to win this game, but I do see both teams scoring.Comment -
:Fair enough. I do believe that theres a chance that they will be salivating for hits against a guy that's never been in a cy young discussion. Perhaps that thought alone will loosen them up enough and give them the confidence they need as they step into the box. Your always going to put less pressure on yourself if you are viewing a task as"doable" from the start.Originally posted by High3rEl3m3ntComment -
Originally posted by Mikail
Both teams can't face each other in the first round because they are in the same division. So this is a moot point.Comment
