someone help me cap this detroit/white sox game

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  • rnunez91
    SBR MVP
    • 02-27-11
    • 1590

    #1
    someone help me cap this detroit/white sox game
    I have been making tons of money on detroit lately. And today i can get them at +110 vs john danks and the white sox? are u kidding me? Detroits riding a 9 game winning streak, if they win today thats the first 10 game streak since 1984. I see alot of motivation coming from detroit tonight and there bats are hot, porcello has pitched pretty well his last 3 outings.. I hate bcking this guy but forr some reason with that horrable era detroits still managed to win 10 of his last 12 outings. They give this guy a ton of run support. The over actually isnt a bad idea in this game aswell. Im going huge on detroit, see no reason not 2.
  • HoulihansTX
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    • 02-12-09
    • 30566

    #2
    CWS are garbage. If Rios, and or Dunn play double up on Detroit.
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    • rnunez91
      SBR MVP
      • 02-27-11
      • 1590

      #3
      hey houlihans. What else u see on this game? cws are garbage but still happen to pull it off sometimes. ive seen them play only a few times on tv. There defense was atrocious and so were some of the coaches decisions in game.
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      • BigBoi
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        • 04-01-11
        • 1084

        #4
        porcello is 1-4 against CWS in his career with an ERA close to 8, while Danks is 4-6 with a 4.5 ERA. Game is in Chicago. I like the White Sox.
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        • rnunez91
          SBR MVP
          • 02-27-11
          • 1590

          #5
          Originally posted by BigBoi
          porcello is 1-4 against CWS in his career with an ERA close to 8, while Danks is 4-6 with a 4.5 ERA. Game is in Chicago. I like the White Sox.
          I dont believe in those type of statistics, Porcello hasnt pitched against them this year. Those are last year stats. Meanwhile danks has pitched against detroit 3 times this season allowed 24 hits and 12 runs in 16 innings. On top of that detroits as hot as ever right now. Theres HUGE value on them today, if porcello can go atleast 6 strong innings allowing 3 runs or less this game should be in the bag. Still waiting to see how interesting today lineup is though. Hope avila is playing
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          • 815Sox
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            • 09-13-10
            • 1078

            #6
            White Sox are a streaky team. Remember how they lost to Detroit in the last series? Got smoked the third game but gave up a 7 run lead the game before (Closer really screwed it up). Before that, the Sox took the previous two series against Det.

            Nobody is very good in the Central. The Sox are a very disappointing team this year, but they have some very hungry kids playing with them right now. Danks is a very good pitcher. I wouldn't be so callous on this one. Just letting you know. Porcello has been terrible lately, and the Sox have crushed him. It doesn't matter if you believe in those stats or not, they say something and should at least cause you to pause.

            You may very well be right, but bets rarely are as easy as they seem to be.

            There are tons of issues going on with Ozzie and Kenny right now, that is something to take into consideration. Some Sox fans think Ozzie is tanking the season.

            rnunez91 - Actually, statistically the White Sox are one of the best defensive teams in the league. Its the black holes in the lineup that are the problem. Adam Dunn is having his first bad year ever and its really bad. Rios has been terrible but has been playing better recently.
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            • chantrain
              SBR MVP
              • 03-14-11
              • 3244

              #7
              I think it's Tigers or no play, and I'm a Sox fan.
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              • HoulihansTX
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                • 02-12-09
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                #8
                Det has hit Danks the last two times he faced them.

                Detroi has what CWS has lacked this season, a stopper(Velander), and great middle of lineup(Cabrera, Victor, and others).

                Det on huge winning streak. Its like why would people try to find reasons to bet against them?
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                • No coincidences
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-18-10
                  • 76300

                  #9
                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                  Det has hit Danks the last two times he faced them.

                  Detroi has what CWS has lacked this season, a stopper(Velander), and great middle of lineup(Cabrera, Victor, and others).

                  Det on huge winning streak. Its like why would people try to find reasons to bet against them?
                  Porcello's a gascan.
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                  • TR88
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                    • 06-10-10
                    • 9364

                    #10
                    white sox or no bet
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                    • rnunez91
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                      • 02-27-11
                      • 1590

                      #11
                      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                      Det has hit Danks the last two times he faced them.

                      Detroi has what CWS has lacked this season, a stopper(Velander), and great middle of lineup(Cabrera, Victor, and others).

                      Det on huge winning streak. Its like why would people try to find reasons to bet against them?
                      excactly, and i see detroit coming out hard this game. Why wouldnt u wanna be part of history of a team. Miguel victor avila all have an opportunity to make history in detroit
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                      • 815Sox
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-13-10
                        • 1078

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                        Det has hit Danks the last two times he faced them.

                        Detroi has what CWS has lacked this season, a stopper(Velander), and great middle of lineup(Cabrera, Victor, and others).

                        Det on huge winning streak. Its like why would people try to find reasons to bet against them?
                        Sergio Santos has been a very good closer for the White Sox this year. He set a new record for most appearances without a run. Chicago also has Chris Sale who can close. I am pretty sure that Santos has had a better year than Verlander. The Sox closer controversy was back in April. It has been Santos since.

                        The middle of the lineup has been an issue for the Sox, but Konerko has carried the team for weeks at a time. Pierre, Ramirez, Konerko, Quentin and AJ are not that bad of a 1-5, but the bottom of the lineup has rarely been productive.

                        I am not saying the Sox are going to win or that Detroit is not good. But lots of misinformation is in this thread. The Sox problem has been Dunn, Rios, Beckham and to a lesser extent Morel. You cannot have that many black holes in the lineup and win.

                        People need to look at reasons to not put down a bet, because if you do not you can lose money.
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                        • chantrain
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-14-11
                          • 3244

                          #13
                          I can't bet on the White sox man, they just got done losing a series to the freakin' Indians. They're playing lazy, not scoring Runs, Ozzie is determined to keep putting together terrible line ups....

                          and Detroit is on a 9 game winning streak, and the last series they played against the Sox...they destroyed us.

                          Not to mention that Detroit has shown the ability to come back time and again late in games when they're down a bunch of runs. The White Sox have trouble scoring more than 3 runs a game!

                          Who the **** would bet on the White Sox right now? They're far from peak form.
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                          • HoulihansTX
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                            • 02-12-09
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                            #14
                            Yes Detroit is not that good, I understand. Although in this division, they look like World series contenders.

                            Konerko is the CWS offense, without him they are the Twins. Quentin is awesome also, but where is the help. I'm not trying to trash the CWS, but accessing their season in its current form.

                            CWS bullpen is actually the strength of the team. Its is above average, which is a high rating compared to others in their division.

                            CWS screwed themselves a long time ago, by continually trotting out Dunn, and Rios. When you are a contending team, cutting the fat, and making tough decisions are the norm. Ozzie didnt make moves to play the young guys, and CWS struggled for those reasons. If Dunn and Rios played to their career averages, then we would have a playoff race in the Central.
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                            • 815Sox
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-13-10
                              • 1078

                              #15
                              No, Konerko is not the sole offense. Quentin is out right now, the Sox have De Aza who is hitting very well playing for Rios. The Sox also have Viciedo playing now, who led triple AAA in HRs. The Bullpen is one of the strongest in the mlb.

                              Yes, The Sox did screw themselves, there was massive discontent over the refusal to bring up Viciedo and De Aza. If they would have done so earlier, they very will could have been in first. I think if Dunn hit his usual 35 to 40 HRs and Rios even put up a .250 avg then the Sox would comfortably be in first.

                              The White Sox have been a plus 500 team and played very well overall since the All-Star break. All I am trying to say is that this game is not the lock that the thread creator is making it appear to be.
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                              • God1
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                                • 07-18-11
                                • 848

                                #16
                                white sox -111 is a gift, did not think it would get that low. thanks to all the squares for betting this down
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                                • Raybolts
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 08-18-10
                                  • 131

                                  #17
                                  With Ya Chantrain, though I can't bet on Porcello either though. To me it is a no play.
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                                  • chantrain
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-14-11
                                    • 3244

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 815Sox
                                    No, Konerko is not the sole offense. Quentin is out right now, the Sox have De Aza who is hitting very well playing for Rios. The Sox also have Viciedo playing now, who led triple AAA in HRs. The Bullpen is one of the strongest in the mlb.

                                    Yes, The Sox did screw themselves, there was massive discontent over the refusal to bring up Viciedo and De Aza. If they would have done so earlier, they very will could have been in first. I think if Dunn hit his usual 35 to 40 HRs and Rios even put up a .250 avg then the Sox would comfortably be in first.

                                    The White Sox have been a plus 500 team and played very well overall since the All-Star break. All I am trying to say is that this game is not the lock that the thread creator is making it appear to be.
                                    It's close to a lock, last time out the Tigers had no trouble destroying our best pitchers. And I bet you anything Ozzie is gonna trot out Rios/Dunn again, because he's a dumb ass.

                                    And Viciedo and De Aza did not even play well last series vs detroit.
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                                    • lunchbawks
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                                      • 01-31-10
                                      • 12873

                                      #19
                                      What was CWS thinking singing Rios and Dunn???

                                      They were horrible with their former teams, both on career slides
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                                      • 815Sox
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-13-10
                                        • 1078

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by chantrain
                                        I can't bet on the White sox man, they just got done losing a series to the freakin' Indians. They're playing lazy, not scoring Runs, Ozzie is determined to keep putting together terrible line ups....
                                        No they split the series. They won the season series against Cleveland this year though. They are what they are now, a second place team in a bad division.

                                        As for signing Dunn, the guy has been one of the most consistent power hitters of the last decade. He has never had a bad year until now, almost everyone thought the Dunn signing was a good one. All these armchair managers come out from nowhere and say I told ya so. Dunn was declining a little bit, like 3-5 HRs less. Nothing that signaled this. I really think lots of this is mental for Dunn and he just needs to reset. The Sox brought him back from his surgery way to damn fast. He was killing it before than. The Sox were 7-4 before his surgery.

                                        If you predicted Dunn having a historically bad year this year, well than I would like to know what organization you are with. Nobody saw this coming. I think Dunn will be fine next year, everyone has a bad year. Its far more likely that he returns to around career averages.
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                                        • 815Sox
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-13-10
                                          • 1078

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by chantrain

                                          It's close to a lock, last time out the Tigers had no trouble destroying our best pitchers. And I bet you anything Ozzie is gonna trot out Rios/Dunn again, because he's a dumb ass.

                                          And Viciedo and De Aza did not even play well last series vs detroit.
                                          It is not close to a "lock", the fact that its Danks (one of the better pitchers in the AL) vs Porcello makes it an iffy game at best. But its not my money. Not saying that the Tigers will not win, but there is no such thing as easy money when it comes to betting sports.

                                          99.9 percent sure that De Aza at least played against Detroit. Point is, do not bet that Rios and Dunn will be playing. It doesn't matter if they played in the last series. Rios is playing better anyways, he had a grand slam a few games ago. Putting money down on assumptions made about a manager's decisions is not a great idea, especially one who you and I are not happy with right now.
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                                          • 815Sox
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-13-10
                                            • 1078

                                            #22
                                            Pierre 7, Ramirez 6, Konerko 3, Pierzynski 2, Viciedo 9, Rios DH, De Aza 8, Morel 5, Beckham 4, Danks
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                                            • chantrain
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-14-11
                                              • 3244

                                              #23
                                              Not impressed with that Rios grand slam, we had the bases loaded like 5 times in that game and left 15 runners stranded. Rios still sucks, he swings at bad pitches and takes strikes right down the middle.
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                                              • Sawyer
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-01-09
                                                • 7761

                                                #24
                                                Would like to pick White Sox here but Detroit's winning streak makes me stay away.
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                                                • rnunez91
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-27-11
                                                  • 1590

                                                  #25
                                                  looks like a long nitee for tiger backers. Smh porcello sucks, first time watching him pitch and he has no control. He doesnt have that last pitch 2 fool a batter and strike him out.. Big problem
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                                                  • rnunez91
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-27-11
                                                    • 1590

                                                    #26
                                                    well boys, getting one of my fav teams 2 bet on at +100 i took them large along with a small play on a parlay with the over and tampa bay... aboutta go celebrate and head 2 dinner. Honestly though if ANYONE saw any value at all on white sox... You shouldnt be betting
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                                                    • chantrain
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-14-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Well, this game is going exactly like I said it would. Tigers have no trouble putting up points against Sox pitching. and my White Sox have trouble scoring more than 3 runs in a game.
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                                                      • zeusky
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 622

                                                        #28
                                                        12 runs already
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                                                        • 815Sox
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-13-10
                                                          • 1078

                                                          #29
                                                          Holy crap, I just saw the score. Danks rarely gets blown out. I guess the Sox have totally given up. I would fade them the rest of the year. Many of the pitchers are talking about "next season" already.
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                                                          • chantrain
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-14-11
                                                            • 3244

                                                            #30
                                                            ^ you just today realized that the Sox have given up?
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                                                            • 815Sox
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-13-10
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by chantrain
                                                              Not impressed with that Rios grand slam, we had the bases loaded like 5 times in that game and left 15 runners stranded. Rios still sucks, he swings at bad pitches and takes strikes right down the middle.
                                                              I never said he was good, he just isn't as bad as he has been which isn't hard to do.


                                                              Originally posted by chantrain
                                                              Well, this game is going exactly like I said it would. Tigers have no trouble putting up points against Sox pitching. and my White Sox have trouble scoring more than 3 runs in a game.
                                                              If you saw John Danks getting blown out or were able to figure it out than you deserve lots of credit. The guy very rarely gets blown out. He is a very good pitcher.
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                                                              • 815Sox
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-13-10
                                                                • 1078

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by chantrain
                                                                ^ you just today realized that the Sox have given up?
                                                                They have some very hungry players right now. I find it hard to believe that you saw a complete blow out for Danks. If you are a Sox fan you know how good he has been as a White Sox pitcher. I never said the Sox were going to win, I just didn't think that this was a "lock" (nothing ever is).
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                                                                • chantrain
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-14-11
                                                                  • 3244

                                                                  #33
                                                                  so is buerhle and santos, they both got destroyed by the Tigers offense.

                                                                  Really man, the Tigers just destroy us...doesn't matter who's pitching.
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                                                                  • chantrain
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-14-11
                                                                    • 3244

                                                                    #34
                                                                    take them to sweep the series, I'll be surprised if they don't win every game
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