Why is Arizona Only - 180 vs Houston Tomorrow???

[brahmabull117]

the astros are like 2-14 their last 16 games on the road



how the hell is this line so low???? (relatively speaking low)

[pacocn]

Wandy Rodriguez

[borednaz]

Yup Wandy on any other team would be an ace. Guy should give Az fits, the real question here is can Az last lonh enough without blowing it to get to houstons pen.

[brahmabull117]

Yup Wandy on any other team would be an ace. Guy should give Az fits, the real question here is can Az last lonh enough without blowing it to get to houstons pen.

wandy is 0-4 his last 4 starts vs Arizona with a monstrous era of nearly 10

[HoulihansTX]

it is not low. Relatively, or in reality.

What yo are going to have to do is find ut waht the #'s for the ML's represent. Once you do that, you will have your answer.

[tonyp0387]

Houston is a joke, line should be +300. Just chase the Rl at plus odds every game its free money.

[HoulihansTX]

Use the odds converter on the SBR tools page.

[Extra Innings]

wandy is 0-4 his last 4 starts vs Arizona with a monstrous era of nearly 10

Is that how you cap games....when is the last time he pitched against Arizona, did you get that figure off of statfox

[jboy4]

Seems about right on to me...

[brahmabull117]

Is that how you cap games....when is the last time he pitched against Arizona, did you get that figure off of statfox

he pitched against them last june I believe and got annihilated

[Extra Innings]

he pitched against them last june I believe and got annihilated

and the other three games...I'm sure it's the same Arizona and the same Wandy from 13 months ago

[brahmabull117]

and the other three games...I'm sure it's the same Arizona and the same Wandy from 13 months ago

arizona has a fantastic offense at home where they average about 5 runs a game, they just got 4 runs off one of the best pitchers in the game (clayton kershaw), why would they struggle against a guy with a 4+ career era???



not to mention Arizona swept the astros in houston when houston had their main players (Pence, Bourn, etc...), now I'm supposed to believe the AA version of the same team that couldn't manage a victory at home has any real chance to beat Arizona's ace IN Arizona???

[HoulihansTX]

Astros are worse, and D-bags are improved since these teams have last met.

Also Wandy has always been a worse road pitcher. He is infamous for his road/home splits.

[brahmabull117]

Astros are worse, and D-bags are improved since these teams have last met. Also Wandy has always been a worse road pitcher. He is infamous for his road/home splits.

the astros are basically a double A team at this point, outside of maybe Carlos Lee



I expect them to lose 115 games this year

[DemoralizdDreamr]

Martingale the D backs RL

[TGHMak]

I wouldn't take Arizona with a line higher than -160

[LovetoSpooge]

i'll be playing the dbacks rl this whole series. If I lose today double up tomorrow!

[I/O]

very dangerous time of the year to be taking (let alone chasing) mediocre teams that are monster favs

[brahmabull117]

very dangerous time of the year to be taking (let alone chasing) mediocre teams that are monster favs

Arizona is 10 games over .500 and has already swept Houston this year, how are they mediocre???

[korbal29]

houston might wake up for this game thats what the line is trying to say. I guess

[thebestthereis]

Dog days of summer

[TrapperDapper]

180 low? What exactly were you expecting the line to be.

[I/O]

Arizona is 10 games over .500 and has already swept Houston this year, how are they mediocre???

There are 9 or 10 teams with better records. 10 games over .500 in the NL is mediocre in my book.

The fact that they swept Houston weeks ago has nothing to do with today's game.

[CHAZ]

Also Wandy has always been a worse road pitcher. He is infamous for his road/home splits.

[brahmabull117]

There are 9 or 10 teams with better records. 10 games over .500 in the NL is mediocre in my book. The fact that they swept Houston weeks ago has nothing to do with today's game.

you realize they're facing a double AA caliber team that has lost 12 of 14 on the road right???


-180 is a steal

[I/O]

You go get'em bud

A week or two back this shit team beat the Cards on the road two straight games as bigger dogs than this.

I'll look for better fish.

bol

[BigDan]

"only -180" ? this is the biggest fav d-bags have been all year, so not exactly sure what you would make this line but -180 does not seem all that appealing to me. If it wasnt the stros i would look at zona sweeping them last time as a negative for d-bags this gm but its hou so not sure how much pride is involved here. bottom line is that line on the high side if anything and just dont get how anyone could be excited about laying that much juice. chances are if i get involved in this game it will be on hou tt un if the number and juice are reasonable.....

[brahmabull117]

YouA week or two back this shit team beat the Cards on the road two straight games as bigger dogs than this.

so those 2 wins are more impressive in your head than the 12 losses they have had on the road recently???



you realize all you need to be profitable on a - 180 line is a 2-1 chance for the favorite to win the game right???



in this case, I would give the D backs about 6-1 odds of winning....that's a massively profitable angle

[I/O]

Line is flying

You better get that move in or you'll be laying 2+ very shortly

[BigDan]

problem is 6 to 1 chance of d-bags winning is incredibly inaccurate. As i doubt any teams chances of winning a baseball gm is that high and the line certainly wouldn't be -180 if smarter ppl thought hou only had a 1 in 6 chance of winning this gm.

like i said i wouldnt play hou but what you are saying doesnt hold water.

[brahmabull117]

problem is 6 to 1 chance of d-bags winning is incredibly inaccurate. .

based on what???? The Astros are 2-12 last 14 on the road, 0-3 against Arizona this year and Wandy is 0-4 his last 4 starts against Arizona with nearly a 10 era



what makes you think those numbers won't continue???




and before you start your "past performance doesnt' guarantee future performance" crap, there's still nothing indicating that the astros have any chance in hell of winning this game. I would play this line 10 times out of 10

[BigDan]

based on the fact books dont give out -180 on a team you are saying should be -600....im not gonna argue about it with you with my "CRAP" as you say. Hell i damn sure not gonna sit here and say i like hou in this spot. worst case as someone suggested you could prob chase zona on the rl all series and id be shocked if you didnt get a W.

D-bags should win and probably will but once again all im saying is you are not getting -180 on a game that you have a 6 to 1 edge in, that is all.

[Hall2Collie]

No baseball team is ever -600 worthy in any game

Line seems correct to me but I do agree that Zona should roll.

[HoulihansTX]

I really hope this brahmabull guy is not "the cooler", because I want to fade the 'Lastros on the road.

[stevenash]

Line is -182 right now, pretty much what it should be.
Matter of fact, that line is pretty sharp.

1) Wandy is a better than average starter, would be a #2 stater on most teams.
Good K ratio, can get the best hitters out, when sharp can throw a 4 hit shutout versus any team.
Too bad he gets no run support, pitches for a crap team.

2) 'Zona's line up doesn't really scare anybody, except Chris Young, no Steven Drew, -182 is right