Gavin Floyd and the White Sux (-101) Wednesday

bigballer891 · 08-03-11, 01:15 AM

Take the under.

BigDan · 08-03-11, 02:32 AM

no idea...wouldnt back Burnett. at same time wouldnt play against nyy w/o some incentive +++

jlee · 08-03-11, 09:39 AM

no konerko = no offense. can't see dunn doing any damage

HoulihansTX · 08-03-11, 09:44 AM

White Sox are trash. Yanks just won with Phil Hughes throwing a 2 hitter.

Pass

No coincidences · 08-03-11, 09:54 AM

I'm just trying to figure out how Ozzie keeps his job, given the Central is trash and this team isn't taking advantage.

If they don't win the Central, he should be fired immediately.

HoulihansTX · 08-03-11, 10:07 AM

Its not ozzies fault that the Adam Dunn signing is a total albatross, and he only has one competent bat, Konerko.

He handles his bullpen well, and the starting pitching is is playing winning baseball.

HoulihansTX · 08-03-11, 10:09 AM

The front office will not let Ozzie bring up their best hitting prospect either. Dunn needs to be shown mercy, b/c its not going to get any better for him. No longer should he play, and they need to bring up a guy to hit in his place.

I/O · 08-03-11, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I'm just trying to figure out how Ozzie keeps his job, given the Central is trash and this team isn't taking advantage.

If they don't win the Central, he should be fired immediately.

Ozzie's act has gotten very old, but imo, Kenny should get launched 1st. Ozzie is working with what he was given. Team is loaded with dead weight veterans set in their ways and not open to outside help.

fwiw, neither is going anywhere

I/O · 08-03-11, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Sox desperately need this one to avoid the sweep vs. NYY. Floyd has been lights-out recently and, for whatever reason, pitches very well vs. the Yankees (7 ER last 29.1 IP).

AJB's given up 16 ER over his last two starts (8 IP) at U.S. Cellular. He did shut the White Sox down earlier this year at home, though.

Thoughts?

not only is Konerko possibly still out, but Floyd (who has a ton of talent) doesn't have it upstairs and is way over due for a stupid attack

cadillac pete · 08-03-11, 11:25 AM

The White Sox are just too inconsistent offensivly to back right now.

gangeriver · 08-03-11, 11:54 AM

Floyd better than AJ novadays and definitely more reliable pitcher but if you wanna win, should make some runs
Also Konerko still out, Adam Dunn is another story

Cappinpicks · 08-03-11, 11:55 AM

The astros could out slug the the white sux

No coincidences · 08-03-11, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Its not ozzies fault that the Adam Dunn signing is a total albatross, and he only has one competent bat, Konerko.

He handles his bullpen well, and the starting pitching is is playing winning baseball.

Originally posted by I/O

Ozzie's act has gotten very old, but imo, Kenny should get launched 1st. Ozzie is working with what he was given. Team is loaded with dead weight veterans set in their ways and not open to outside help.

fwiw, neither is going anywhere

True.

Blind Monkey · 08-03-11, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Sox desperately need this one to avoid the sweep vs. NYY. Floyd has been lights-out recently and, for whatever reason, pitches very well vs. the Yankees (7 ER last 29.1 IP).

AJB's given up 16 ER over his last two starts (8 IP) at U.S. Cellular. He did shut the White Sox down earlier this year at home, though.

Thoughts?

CHW by the smallest of margins and the Under looks very good. BOL

Cappinpicks · 08-03-11, 12:11 PM

scary bet but may win at close to pick

lesterdymond · 08-03-11, 12:41 PM

Under 9 would be the safest bet.

I/O · 08-03-11, 04:34 PM

just a note

Konerko to play tomorrow

Bob Loblaw · 08-03-11, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Its not ozzies fault that the Adam Dunn signing is a total albatross, and he only has one competent bat, Konerko.

He handles his bullpen well, and the starting pitching is is playing winning baseball.

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

The front office will not let Ozzie bring up their best hitting prospect either. Dunn needs to be shown mercy, b/c its not going to get any better for him. No longer should he play, and they need to bring up a guy to hit in his place.

Originally posted by No coincidences

True.

Untrue

Kenny's admitted to making bad signings and has given Ozzie the go ahead to sit their overpaid asses on the bench. He refuses to do so. If he still wants Dunn in there then fine. Does that mean he has to put him in the cleanup spot every damn game? Putting him in the cleanup vs CC 2 games ago is just an atrocious managing move. Everybody but him knew Dunn stood zero chance against him. Rios should be a full time bench player at this point regardless if his backup might not be anything special. Because guess what? His backups are still better than Rios. But nope Rios is once again trotted out there tonight so he can go 0-4 with bad defense and no effort.

If Ozzie wanted Viciedo up, he would be up. But Ozzie basically laughed in reporters faces when asked about him.

‘‘Well, if Viciedo is going to be the White Sox’ savior, we will be in deep s---,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘And you can quote me on that. . . . We’re in deep s--- if we wait for a Triple-A kid to come here and be the savior. Can he help? Yes. Is he going to be the savior? I like the talent we have here.’’

Maybe he won't be the savior Ozzie but it can't hurt. Keep watching your team free fall in the standings instead. Seems like the better plan

Bob Loblaw · 08-03-11, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Its not ozzies fault that the Adam Dunn signing is a total albatross, and he only has one competent bat, Konerko.

He handles his bullpen well, and the starting pitching is is playing winning baseball.

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

The front office will not let Ozzie bring up their best hitting prospect either. Dunn needs to be shown mercy, b/c its not going to get any better for him. No longer should he play, and they need to bring up a guy to hit in his place.

Originally posted by No coincidences

True.

Untrue

Kenny's admitted to making bad signings and has given Ozzie the go ahead to sit their overpaid asses on the bench. He refuses to do so. If he still wants Dunn in there then fine. Does that mean he has to put him in the cleanup spot every damn game? Putting him in the cleanup spot vs CC two games ago is just an atrocious managing move. Everybody but Ozzie knew Dunn stood zero chance against CC. Rios should be a full time bench player at this point regardless if his backup might not be anything special. Because guess what? His backups are still better than Rios. But nope Rios is once again trotted out there tonight so he can go 0-4 with bad defense and no effort.

If Ozzie wanted Viciedo up, he would be up. But Ozzie basically laughed in reporters faces when asked about him.

‘‘Well, if Viciedo is going to be the White Sox’ savior, we will be in deep s---,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘And you can quote me on that. . . . We’re in deep s--- if we wait for a Triple-A kid to come here and be the savior. Can he help? Yes. Is he going to be the savior? I like the talent we have here.’’

Maybe he won't be the savior Ozzie but it can't hurt. Keep watching your team free fall in the standings instead. Seems like the better plan

mngambler · 08-03-11, 05:16 PM

@ -105 i'll take the Yanks, white sox are imploding and have no offense

I/O · 08-03-11, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by I/O

not only is Konerko possibly still out, but Floyd (who has a ton of talent) doesn't have it upstairs and is way over due for a stupid attack

2.1 innings

10 earned

LockPickMaster · 08-03-11, 08:40 PM

just bet against CWS the rest of the season, should be profitable

KnowingNothing · 08-03-11, 08:41 PM

Floyd can't handle pressure.

I was on the Unders too.

chantrain · 08-03-11, 08:44 PM

Ozzie is a moron. Forget Dunn, Ozzie keeps playing Rios when he can't bat and can't defend either. Ozzie must be trying to get fired.

LockPickMaster · 08-03-11, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by chantrain

Ozzie is a moron. Forget Dunn, Ozzie keeps playing Rios when he can't bat and can't defend either. Ozzie must be trying to get fired.

He can't really do anything, everybody on that team sux

chantrain · 08-03-11, 08:54 PM

Rios has been responsible for a lot of defensive lapses in the past few games. Ozzie does have the power to bench that twat and play someone who can defend at least. But he won't do it.

Dexter · 08-03-11, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I'm just trying to figure out how Ozzie keeps his job, given the Central is trash and this team isn't taking advantage.

If they don't win the Central, he should be fired immediately.

you're gonna fire a championship manager? he actually managed the whitesox to a world series that year.

i dont understand why he keeps sticking dunn in the middle of the lineup though

No coincidences · 08-03-11, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Dexter

you're gonna fire a championship manager? he actually managed the whitesox to a world series that year.

i dont understand why he keeps sticking dunn in the middle of the lineup though

A championship manager gets a free pass forever? Because they've underachieved ever since.

chantrain · 08-03-11, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by bigballer891

Take the under.

good call