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  • pat venditto
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-07-07
    • 14347

    #71
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    • Deke101
      SBR MVP
      • 11-15-07
      • 1213

      #72
      Why do you people rip on him? He's picking winners and profiting, which is the reason why we come to this site, to discuss the games and pick winners. Get your priorities straight people, venditto has his straight.
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      • Brady2Moss
        SBR MVP
        • 07-02-08
        • 1500

        #73
        lol picking winners? less than 20 picks is BS, if he is picking winners after 100 picks then I will respect his opinion
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        • Deke101
          SBR MVP
          • 11-15-07
          • 1213

          #74
          Originally posted by Brady2Moss
          lol picking winners? less than 20 picks is BS, if he is picking winners after 100 picks then I will respect his opinion
          Then the same applies to you.
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          • AC1318
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-09-06
            • 6712

            #75
            I have to say many clowns on this site, don't know the reason people break balls
            no matter if you win or lose the peanut gallery always has something to say.

            There was a cat on here last year senator7 he picked 4 dogs a night and won money constantly many nights 4-0 eventually he left for the same BS.

            People always asked why you pick that team there gonna lose and just run their teeth he just got sick of it and split. I still don't think anyone on this forum had won as much as him on a weekly basis and always dogs even those who pick favorites.

            Anyway continue to argue like little cunt's if you like but eventually the people who can pick games fade off.
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            • pat venditto
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-07-07
              • 14347

              #76
              7/23 Chicago Cubs moneyline -115

              risking 2.5 units to win 2.17
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63172

                #77
                cubs need to get the bats going.... I'll be interested to see how Soriano's return affects the club.... despite his stats, he finds ways to mess things up. They seem to roll when he is injured.
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                • pat venditto
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-07-07
                  • 14347

                  #78
                  YTD: 10-4 (+8.69 units) 71.4%
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                  • Kingctb27
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-16-08
                    • 2258

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Brady2Moss
                    lol picking winners? less than 20 picks is BS, if he is picking winners after 100 picks then I will respect his opinion
                    STFU. I'd like to see you do what he has done thus far.

                    Keep it going pat.
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                    • pat venditto
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-07-07
                      • 14347

                      #80
                      1 of those losses is a tilt bet (nyy runline)

                      1 of those losses was a .25 action junkie bet on rockies vs mets

                      You will see in the next few weeks my record will continue to improve.


                      edit sorry for grammar i've been up 26 hours straight bare with me.
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                      • The HOFF
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-02-08
                        • 4847

                        #81
                        Pat you've been doing a nice job, and you've proven it by POSTING your picks. Most of the people who criticize don't post their plays everyday because they would be embarrassed by the huge OVERALL -12000 units.

                        People need to realize it is ok to disagree with picks and then give an explanation or numbers why you think that. But arguments like "they suck" or "you're an idiot" make you look like the idiot.

                        With that said, Cubs are 1-5 in the last 6 games and the bats just haven't been there. But you've been picking winners so good luck.
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                        • pat venditto
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-07-07
                          • 14347

                          #82
                          It's not what the cubs have done in the last 6 thats important. It's what the cubs offense(.278 team avg, which is the highest in the NL) is capable of doing vs a bad pitcher in doug davis.

                          I think ted lilly is a decent pitcher who should be able to throw a quality start vs this weak arizona lineup.

                          I got the line at -115 meaning if this hits 53% of the time I Break even, which I feel will hit at a much higher percentage with these 2 teams matching up with these 2 pitchers listed.
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                          • pat venditto
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-07-07
                            • 14347

                            #83
                            I'll also point out that the current dbacks lineup is batting .125 against ted lilly (3/24)
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                            • woodg8
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-21-08
                              • 1349

                              #84
                              Originally posted by Deke101
                              Why do you people rip on him? He's picking winners and profiting, which is the reason why we come to this site, to discuss the games and pick winners. Get your priorities straight people, venditto has his straight.
                              Forum = serious business
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                              • AC1318
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 10-09-06
                                • 6712

                                #85
                                I like arizona for the sweep
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                                • treece
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-28-07
                                  • 6298

                                  #86
                                  You're doing a great job Venditto, keep up the good work kid. Mariners are a good bet today, I unloaded on them.
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                                  • pat venditto
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-07-07
                                    • 14347

                                    #87
                                    7/24
                                    Tampa Bay Rays -120

                                    Listed Pitchers - Garza/Meche

                                    Risking 2.5 units to win 2.08 units
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                                    • OrionSky
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-21-07
                                      • 939

                                      #88
                                      Nice work with the Cubbies!!

                                      Good luck tomorrow!

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                                      • pat venditto
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 05-07-07
                                        • 14347

                                        #89
                                        YTD: 11-4 (+10.86 units) 73.3%
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                                        • BadBeatBodog
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-05-08
                                          • 1006

                                          #90
                                          It seems odd to me that the line is only -120.

                                          Garza has better surface stats (3.68 ERA 1.20 WHIP 2.25K/BB vs. 4.55 ERA 1.35 WHIP 2.16 K/BB)

                                          TB is six games under on the road but KC is five under at home.

                                          - TB team GPA .254 vs. .238 for KC (.254 is league average)
                                          - TB is better versus righties .755 vs. .723 OPS
                                          - KC is much worse versus righties .689 vs. .731 OPS
                                          - TB is worse on the road .727 vs. .761 OPS but their BAbip on the road is .283 vs. .315 at home
                                          - KC is better at home .711 vs. .691 OPS but their BAbip at home is .315 vs. .286 on the road
                                          - TB has the much better pen 7.15 vs. 2.46 WPA
                                          - TB has a much better defense +9 vs. -34 for KC
                                          - TB is a flat out much better team 8.5 vs. -5.5 WPA

                                          I don't get it?
                                          "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                          "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                          • pat venditto
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-07-07
                                            • 14347

                                            #91
                                            It's called value.
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                                            • BadBeatBodog
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-05-08
                                              • 1006

                                              #92
                                              Thanks for that post which told me nothing. Should I rephrase the question? Considering all of the readily apparent and obvious stats that most people look at, doesn't it seem like the line should be HIGHER than -120? I realize you like this line and believe it has value - you are betting it afterall, so I figured that out for myself, thank you. I am merely wondering why it isn't higher, because I can't see a reason it should be -120.
                                              "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                              "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                              • pat venditto
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-07-07
                                                • 14347

                                                #93
                                                I don't care why it isn't any higher as I'd like it as low as possible. Obviously the bookies are giving the royals (a bad team) too much credit.

                                                correct odds imo should be like

                                                -175
                                                +165
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                                                • BadBeatBodog
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 06-05-08
                                                  • 1006

                                                  #94
                                                  I think it's because of Garza's road numbers. Then again Meche has been just as bad at home....

                                                  Regardless, I'm not touching this game because Garza is a fade pitcher IMO. 4.46 xFIP
                                                  "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                  "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                  • rake922
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-23-07
                                                    • 11692

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                                                    Regardless, I'm not touching this game because Garza is a fade pitcher IMO. 4.46 xFIP
                                                    what's that mean
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                                                    • pat venditto
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-07-07
                                                      • 14347

                                                      #96
                                                      YTD: 11-5 (+8.36 units) 68.7%

                                                      Right side wrong result.
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                                                      • pat venditto
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-07-07
                                                        • 14347

                                                        #97
                                                        7/25 Boston Redsox Moneyline -120

                                                        Risking 2.5 units to win 2.08 units
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                                                        • pat venditto
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-07-07
                                                          • 14347

                                                          #98
                                                          YTD: 11-6 (+5.86 units) 64.7%

                                                          another rough loss
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                                                          • BadBeatBodog
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 06-05-08
                                                            • 1006

                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by rake922
                                                            what's that mean
                                                            His ERA is not indicative of how he's truly pitched; his FIP is 4.11 (not that much higher than his ERA and not a bad number) but his xFIP is 4.57, indicating he is going to pitch worse than he has going forwards. It doesn't mean I will always bet against him, and he's going to suck from here on out, but it makes him overvalued, if only slightly, IMO.
                                                            "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

                                                            "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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                                                            • Kingctb27
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 07-16-08
                                                              • 2258

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by BadBeatBodog
                                                              His ERA is not indicative of how he's truly pitched; his FIP is 4.11 (not that much higher than his ERA and not a bad number) but his xFIP is 4.57, indicating he is going to pitch worse than he has going forwards. It doesn't mean I will always bet against him, and he's going to suck from here on out, but it makes him overvalued, if only slightly, IMO.
                                                              Agh, I love statistics.
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                                                              • fifawcs
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-14-07
                                                                • 2888

                                                                #101
                                                                Yo Pat, what do you think of the Dodgers tomorrow?
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                                                                • pat venditto
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-07-07
                                                                  • 14347

                                                                  #102
                                                                  think it has small value. dodgers should win 75% of the time since perez is awful.
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                                                                  • pat venditto
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-07-07
                                                                    • 14347

                                                                    #103
                                                                    rockies/reds under 10 +100

                                                                    risking 2.5 units to win 2.5 units
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                                                                    • AC1318
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 10-09-06
                                                                      • 6712

                                                                      #104
                                                                      both undefeated perez 3-0 lowe 4-0

                                                                      LAD have them at home

                                                                      never see you play totals

                                                                      what numbers you crunch for the games

                                                                      SEN7 made a worksheet should pitchers true era whip for bullpens and all
                                                                      other spreadsheets for offen and defen stats

                                                                      no others compare they were great last year

                                                                      GL on the total
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                                                                      • pat venditto
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-07-07
                                                                        • 14347

                                                                        #105
                                                                        YTD: 12-6 (+8.36 units) 66.6%
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