What do you look at when comparing pitchers ?

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  • dom75
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-11-10
    • 779

    #1
    What do you look at when comparing pitchers ?
    Just like the title says, what do you look at when comparing pitchers ?
  • Ice House
    Restricted User
    • 07-21-10
    • 4060

    #2
    I look at "stuff" as well if they are pitching well as of late.

    Tim Lincecum was money everytime he pitched in the playoffs but there was a period of time in July/August he was serious fade material.

    Look for these guys to be lights out to start the season
    1. Roy Halladay
    2. Cliff Lee
    3. Mark Burhlee
    4. Ubaldo Jimenez
    5. Chris Carpenter
    6. Josh Johnson
    7. Brandon Morrow
    8. Ricky Romero
    9. Matt Garza
    10. Clayton Kershaw
    11. David Price
    12. Phil Hughes
    13. Brett Anderson
    14.Tim Hudson
    15. Matt Cain
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    • ebbearsfb1
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-07-08
      • 18815

      #3
      Why do you think those particular guys will be great to start? I know cc is a slow starter so he could be a good early fade... be careful with josh and his elbow, and love garza in a new stadium until that chicago wind starts blowing out
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      • ebbearsfb1
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-07-08
        • 18815

        #4
        Also to answer the op, see how long guys goes into games cause the bullpen then becomes a big factor, how they did the last 3 starts is important, number of pitches number of days rest, sure I'm missing stuff. O yeah groundballs is a good one also
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        • rdo37
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-27-09
          • 651

          #5
          For Totals... Groundball/Flyball ratio, WHIP, and recent performance of both clubs offenses

          For RL/ML... WHIP, Innings pitched per start, strength of bullpens, history against the opposing team(some teams have a certain pitcher figured out or vice versa)
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          • goblue1988
            SBR Hustler
            • 02-13-11
            • 75

            #6
            Originally posted by Ice House

            Look for these guys to be lights out to start the season
            1. Roy Halladay
            2. Cliff Lee
            3. Mark Burhlee
            4. Ubaldo Jimenez
            5. Chris Carpenter
            6. Josh Johnson
            7. Brandon Morrow
            8. Ricky Romero
            9. Matt Garza
            10. Clayton Kershaw
            11. David Price
            12. Phil Hughes
            13. Brett Anderson
            14.Tim Hudson
            15. Matt Cain
            Justin Verlander has better "stuff" than all but maybe 3 of the pitchers on that entire list. So the fact that he's not on it, REALLY baffles me.
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            • Whippit
              Restricted User
              • 04-29-10
              • 3065

              #7
              penis size
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              • Ice House
                Restricted User
                • 07-21-10
                • 4060

                #8
                forgot about Verlander.... he is good.

                He matches up against CC and the Yankees opening day... that is a tough call right there
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                • Ice House
                  Restricted User
                  • 07-21-10
                  • 4060

                  #9
                  I like Phil Hughes b/c if he is the 3rd starter in the Yankees rotation he should get some favorable matchups as far as who is pitching for the other team.

                  Hughes is better than most #3 starters and the Yankees line-up is pretty consistent. I don't know if I would take CC and AJ vs teams #1 and #2 pitchers until they prove what kind of form they are in to start the season.

                  Everybody is going to be on the Redsox this year but I don't know if you can trust Josh Beckett or Lester to come out sharp to start the season.

                  I'd probably go with the Redsox and Lackey against pretty much anybodys #3 starter
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                  • smitch124
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-19-08
                    • 12566

                    #10
                    one stat I give a lot of credence to for pitchers is OPS against.
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                    • BRAVES1985
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-23-10
                      • 4250

                      #11
                      i think morrow will have a monster year
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                      • Ice House
                        Restricted User
                        • 07-21-10
                        • 4060

                        #12
                        Yeah Morrow has as good of stuff as anyone in the game.

                        He should get decent run support as well. Some scouts seem to question his ability to take on a full season's work load and stay healthy.

                        Yankees Mitre is probably good fade material.
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                        • Crayzee
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 4945

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ice House
                          forgot about Verlander.... he is good.

                          He matches up against CC and the Yankees opening day... that is a tough call right there
                          when number 1's face each other its either the dog or no play for me
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                          • Sawyer
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-01-09
                            • 7761

                            #14
                            Recent form and history vs opposing lineup.

                            I suggest to look in hitting lineups as well. They're important as Starting Pitcher. If you can't score runs, you can't win.
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                            • Whippit
                              Restricted User
                              • 04-29-10
                              • 3065

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ice House
                              I look at "stuff" as well if they are pitching well as of late.

                              Tim Lincecum was money everytime he pitched in the playoffs but there was a period of time in July/August he was serious fade material.

                              Look for these guys to be lights out to start the season
                              1. Roy Halladay
                              2. Cliff Lee
                              3. Mark Burhlee
                              4. Ubaldo Jimenez
                              5. Chris Carpenter
                              6. Josh Johnson
                              7. Brandon Morrow
                              8. Ricky Romero
                              9. Matt Garza
                              10. Clayton Kershaw
                              11. David Price
                              12. Phil Hughes
                              13. Brett Anderson
                              14.Tim Hudson
                              15. Matt Cain

                              there's no value in any of these guys, you'd be better off fading them
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                              • 8ArIvd5
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-24-10
                                • 3175

                                #16
                                groundball/flyball. K/BB. K/IP. WHIP. % of pitch-types thrown. Height.
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