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  • MOONCRICKET
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-23-07
    • 239

    #1
    My biggest bet i have made this year
    ok so as of today i am in FIRST PLACE in the Big Unit contest.

    I have been on FIRE ever since march madness.

    2 nights ago I had my first losing night in almost 3 weeks.

    I don't post a lot but when I do, I don't let people down.

    I hate the word "lock".

    I don't use the word, "guarantee".

    We gamble - there is always RISK.


    what I am about to tell you is a move that you can use to get back to even for the week or a move that you can double whatever you are up.

    EVERYTHING from a handicapper's perspective points to the LA/AZ game going over tonight.

    1. Both pitchers suck.
    2. Gonzalez is 1-4 with a 8.48 lifetime vs. LA
    3. Billingsley is 4-2 with a 3.19 lifetime vs. AZ but he is 0-3 with a 6.14 this year.
    4. Both pitchers (Gonzales, Billingsley) have a combined ERA of 10.64 and a combined record of 0-4.
    5. Even though Billingsley "appears" to have had succes vs. AZ Mark Reynolds in 4-4 with 2HR against him.
    6. There are 4 players in LA's starting lineup that have a career BA over .500 vs. Gonzalez with James Loney hitting a robust .833 against him.
    7. These two teams combined for 11 runs on 23 hits against two aces Haren and Lowe last night.
    8. Juan Pierre career .500 vs Gonzalez is back in the lineup tonight.
    9. Rafael Furcal is hitting the @&*^$ out of the ball lately.
    10. Everything that i can see points to an 11-7 ball game.

    And that is why my biggest bet of the year is LA/AZ Under 8!

    I thought a fair total for this game would be 9.5 or 10.

    Not Only was the line set and opened at 8.5. But in the face of all 10 signs listed above the total has gone down to 8.

    I was prepared to bet a dime on the over until i saw the only thing that is worth seeing when it somes to betting a game, and that is where the line is set.

    So long as you have your finger on the pulse of the game and you have a good feel for where lines "should" open at then you will be able from time to time isolate outright line traps like this one. They don't happen that often. You might find 2 or 3 legit line traps per week where all signs point to either one side or an over or an under, and yet the line is nowhere near where you think it should be. In this case not only is the line set at least one run too low, but the heavy early money has gone to the under.

    It wouldn't surprise me to see it flash back up to 8.5 or 9 once the betting public wipes the saliva from their lap and once again bets an "obvious over".

    Different situation but equally as profitable is using this forum to see where everyone is betting. Case in point last night the WORLD LOVED AZ. therefore LA became the correct play. and yes while i woke up yesterday loving az as well once i saw that 95% of everyone else felt the same way i knew it was the wrong side. so i backed off AZ and used Balt +116, Fla +130, and Hou +133 for a 3-0 3 dog night ( and that is documented if you go to page 2 of yesterdays contests posts). today i used over in philly a 3-1 loser which once i saw that the Louisville Kid loved that over as well i knew i was a loser, and i used under in the minn/oak game which i got creamed in as well. my third and final play for the contest is wash +130 which i fully plan to win even though i am currently down 1-0 in that game.


    I am telling you all right now that you can bet the under in the LA/AZ game for whatever you want. this is a move that you will see 2-3 times per week and is as close to a guaranteed winner as humanly possible and the reason it is such an easy money in the bank bet is because you would have to a complete idiot to like the under in this game. you folow me?? Nothing out there suggests that this game has any chance of staying under, and THAT IS WHY IT WILL. do you all understand?

    I am betting the under for 3500 which is the single biggest bet i have made year to date. I am so confident that it is a winner that i am going to be asleep by 10pm this evening. i will wake up to find out what i already know and that is that the line is telling the world that the UNDER IN LA/AZ cannot lose.

    Before you say it...... You are Welcome!
  • rjt721
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-06-07
    • 7929

    #2
    Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
    1. Both pitchers suck.
    This is where you lost me. Billingsley doesn't suck. Far from it.

    Good luck.
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    • MOONCRICKET
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-23-07
      • 239

      #3
      ok maybe suck is a strong word for billingsley but 0-3 with a 6.14 era sucks, so maybe billingsley stinks would have been more appropriate. if you dont like that choice of words maybe you can tell me what you call a pitcher who has gone the entire season with giving his team a chance to win. REMEMBER 0-3 with a 6.14. what do you call that? anyways you are missing the point both pitchers have a combined era of 10.64 and the total opens up at 8.5??????? that right there tells you everything you need to know. nothing else is worth talking about, unless of course you wanna argue about how 0-3 with a 6.14 is any better than the word "suck" describes. I'm all ears.
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      • St. Andrew
        SBR MVP
        • 02-23-08
        • 2265

        #4
        Dodgers offense is beyond pathetic. No wonder the line was low.
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        • MOONCRICKET
          SBR High Roller
          • 08-23-07
          • 239

          #5
          yeah but they have been scoring lately and pierre back in the lineup along with hot furcal they should be able to manufacture a few tonight . i like this game 5-0. if pierre/furcal can get on base then its LA 5-0 - if they cant then its AZ 5-0 but for some reason thats the score i am foretelling.
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          • pico
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 04-05-07
            • 27321

            #6
            what is your bet? over 8 or under 8?

            for a dime is it?
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            • ryanXL977
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-24-08
              • 20615

              #7
              totally agree with some of this

              a: billingsley can be very good., not this yr but last
              b: edgar gonzalez SUCks, that is true
              c: la has to start hitting someday, probably will be at home vs a rival and a bad sp.
              d: i am worried az doesnt get 4 runs is the only thing here
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              • MOONCRICKET
                SBR High Roller
                • 08-23-07
                • 239

                #8
                no.no.no. my play is under under under and its back up to 8.5 as all the little guys bet their 100 on the over. all the smart early money pounded this thing down to 8 and it wouldnt surprise me to see it at 9 by game time. what i am saying here us that the over is such an obvious easy bet that it is in fact the wrong side. under is the play because i cant find one good reason to bet under. and that is why under is the play. when you have 2 starters who are a combined 0-4 with a 10.64 and the total opens at 8.5 - afull 2 runs under what the numbers suggest it could open at..... i figured 9.5 over-125 was going to be the opening line, but when it opened at 8.5 then immediately went to 8 despite all signs pointing to over that information dictates the outcome - this under is easily one of the strongest plays ive seen all year and i have my money where my mouth is. i have it bet straight for 3500. i have under 4 for 1000 for the first 5 innings. i have under 4.5 for 500 for the first 5 innings. i have under 8.5 parlayed with nyyunder10 for 200. i have a 100 par with under 8.5, under 10nyy, and tb-105. i have 200 par under 8.5 with wash +130. i have 200 parly with under 8.5/stl/nyy/nyy under. i have 200 parlay under 8.5/wash/stl. i have a 50 par under 8.5/tb/stl/nyy/nyy under, i have 200 par under 8.5/balt +155, i have 200 par under 8.5/wash+130/balt+155. and a slew of little 50 and 100 pars without the az/la total which are currently crushing. so do whatever you want but i know for a fact that this is a LINE TRAP and that because over looks so obvious that the under is the play . period.
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                • ryanXL977
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-24-08
                  • 20615

                  #9
                  i wont bet it, but i say over is the play

                  gl to you
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                  • ryanXL977
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-24-08
                    • 20615

                    #10
                    they have gone over in 3 straight
                    az has gone over 3 of 4

                    top offense in the nl
                    full lad lineup

                    i say over
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                    • MOONCRICKET
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-23-07
                      • 239

                      #11
                      exactly dude you and everyone else and for that matter me too - the over looks like the only playable side which is why under is the move dont you get it? good handicappers dont handicap they read lines. they look for mistakes - traps. the best handicappers ask themselves what the line should be set at and then see waht its actually set at followed by a distant second where the line then moves. given the fact that this line should easily have opened at 9 or 9.5 or really even at 10 and GIVEN THE FACT that it opened at 8.5 and then immediately dropped to 8 has to have everyone scratching their heads right? wrong . it all is spelling it out to you in black and white that the under is the play. i was fully prepared to bet over 9.5 for a dime here. but when i saw it sitting at 8 thats all i needed to see to know that i was on the wrong side and that i not only backed off the over but i hammered the under for the biggest bet ive made yet this year. and as all my other parlays are coming in if they end in time then i will be adding to this bet. you dont get opportunities like this every day - but when you do you must take advantage - and remember im not just some shlep preaching locks here. i am currently as of yesterday the top baseball handicapper in this forum. now i did go 1-2 today in the contest with phi over, minn under and wash for an overall 1 unit loss so wizard of wins and i are about tied right now waiting on his sd play to see who will be in first after today but we are both up about 16 units and no one else out of 100+ entrant are even close. i think the next closest guy is +11 units, so that should be worth something here. wizard is a hell of a handicapper also and i notice we have a similar style of betting games where the world is on the other side. its no coincidence that we cash while others cry. dont be insulted i dont blame you for liking the over - understand here that i like the over also. because on paper i can give you a host of reasons why over is the play. and i cant honestly think of one real good reason why under should be the bet. AND THAT IS PRECISELY WHY THE UNDER IS THE STRONGEST MOVE ON THE ENTIRE BOARD. get it now?
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                      • rjt721
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-06-07
                        • 7929

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
                        what i am saying here us that the over is such an obvious easy bet that it is in fact the wrong side. under is the play because i cant find one good reason to bet under. and that is why under is the play.
                        Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
                        because on paper i can give you a host of reasons why over is the play. and i cant honestly think of one real good reason why under should be the bet. AND THAT IS PRECISELY WHY THE UNDER IS THE STRONGEST MOVE ON THE ENTIRE BOARD. get it now?
                        Wow. I'm speechless.

                        Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
                        and remember im not just some shlep preaching locks here. i am currently as of yesterday the top baseball handicapper in this forum. now i did go 1-2 today in the contest with phi over, minn under and wash for an overall 1 unit loss so wizard of wins and i are about tied right now waiting on his sd play to see who will be in first after today but we are both up about 16 units and no one else out of 100+ entrant are even close.
                        So you're the best baseball handicapper on this forum because you can take advantage of 17+ hour stale lines?
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                        • freeVICK
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-21-08
                          • 7114

                          #13
                          3-1 top of the 2nd... why did i follow
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                          • jtuck
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-18-08
                            • 2051

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hawaii04
                            3-1 top of the 2nd... why did i follow
                            I second that
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                            • MOONCRICKET
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 08-23-07
                              • 239

                              #15
                              ok maybe its a matter of opinion which i could easily be wrong about - dont really know what you mean about the lines seeing as well have the to deal with the same stale lines. i would think that given the lines dont move it would give evryone a bit more of an advantage to see where the lines are moving and be able to take advantage of the stale lines, but apparently everyone is not able to do so. with half the pool in the negative and most anyone doing well is up betwenn 3 and 8 units having used over 40 plays. the real proof is in the bank wires that i have been pulling for the past 4 weeks but no one sees that so i dont bring that up- the only thing people see and can judge ability on is the contest - it stands to reason that if i am betting money on 3 games that i would also use the same 3 plays in the contest. seriously i could care less about the 200 clams inmy account. the only reason anyone posts their season totals or emters these contests is for some good-natured braggin rights. now i hardly ever psot like this, but i wanted everyone to get on this under, which by the way is a 1-1 game in the 2nd. i could very well be destroyed here. and i have for me what amounts to a lot of money on the under, but i still feel that i will cash these tickets. and honestly if i dont then i will man up to it. i didntpost this to rub anyone the wrong way but i do think the play should be respected because i have proven without barking out loud that i know what im doin in baseball, thats all, good luck to you all.
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                              • rake922
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-23-07
                                • 11692

                                #16
                                Win or lose this guy deserves come credit. Barely anybody gives detailed reasons for picking a game.

                                Pretty much every poster gives no reason at all actually; just a list of picks
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                                • OrionSky
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 07-21-07
                                  • 939

                                  #17
                                  You still feel the same way Cricket? Under? Did you really play that much?
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                                  • rjt721
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-06-07
                                    • 7929

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
                                    ok maybe its a matter of opinion which i could easily be wrong about - dont really know what you mean about the lines seeing as well have the to deal with the same stale lines. i would think that given the lines dont move it would give evryone a bit more of an advantage to see where the lines are moving and be able to take advantage of the stale lines, but apparently everyone is not able to do so. with half the pool in the negative and most anyone doing well is up betwenn 3 and 8 units having used over 40 plays. the real proof is in the bank wires that i have been pulling for the past 4 weeks but no one sees that so i dont bring that up- the only thing people see and can judge ability on is the contest - it stands to reason that if i am betting money on 3 games that i would also use the same 3 plays in the contest. seriously i could care less about the 200 clams inmy account. the only reason anyone posts their season totals or emters these contests is for some good-natured braggin rights. now i hardly ever psot like this, but i wanted everyone to get on this under, which by the way is a 1-1 game in the 2nd. i could very well be destroyed here. and i have for me what amounts to a lot of money on the under, but i still feel that i will cash these tickets. and honestly if i dont then i will man up to it. i didntpost this to rub anyone the wrong way but i do think the play should be respected because i have proven without barking out loud that i know what im doin in baseball, thats all, good luck to you all.
                                    I wasn't trying to be a dick. I just find it peculiar that a total you capped at 9.5 or 10, and thus opened 8.5, you would bet the under. That's all.

                                    Good luck with the play. I hope it cashes for you.
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                                    • MOONCRICKET
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 08-23-07
                                      • 239

                                      #19
                                      for all you doubters out there gonzales has settled won and is rolling and by the way nomar was out at the plate but the ump blew the call and az #8 hitter hit a 2run homer. no excuses here, but all the main run producers in this game havent done squat, and billingsley has 7 k's thru 3 innings. i have 1000 on the under 4 for 5 innings wish is a push so far and 500 on under 4.5 when it popped back up and that will cash - you watch. these pitchers are in a zone right now. this game will be 3-1 in the 7th and then i'll be askin all you haters to chime in then. anyone who followed me on this will get paid. just have a little faith.
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                                      • MOONCRICKET
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 08-23-07
                                        • 239

                                        #20
                                        theres no bad vibes here y'all. listen im watching this game and both pitchers are in complete control right now. i have close to 6 grand bet total on this game. and yes i still like the play. but lets get back in touch around the 7th inning when the score is still 3-1, ok?
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                                        • The_Kid
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-09-08
                                          • 5049

                                          #21
                                          The game is 9 innings, not 4 innings.
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                                          • MOONCRICKET
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 08-23-07
                                            • 239

                                            #22
                                            hey kid i know you are watching this thing - billingsley 9 k's thru 4 pitcher leads off the 5th and gonzo is in cruise control against the batless dodger lineup. there hasnt been a basreunner since the top of the second - where did all the haters go? come out come out wherever you are? lol. you dont even need to watch it the line already told you the outcome, i'm tellin ya.
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                                            • diogee
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-11-08
                                              • 19477

                                              #23
                                              Good luck Mooncricket...hope you cash it.
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                                              • ChuteBoxe
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-21-07
                                                • 6885

                                                #24
                                                Hope you cash as well. Good luck man.
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                                                • The_Kid
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-09-08
                                                  • 5049

                                                  #25
                                                  Damn, there goes the UNDER for the 1st 5 innings.
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                                                  • freeVICK
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-21-08
                                                    • 7114

                                                    #26
                                                    6-6 top of the 5th...
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                                                    • MOONCRICKET
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 08-23-07
                                                      • 239

                                                      #27
                                                      well there goes 1500 on the first 5 under, but the pars with wash, stl, and tb are still live the par with yankee under is dead.each team has 4 hits in 4 innuings but 3 runs a piece they reall are making the most of every opportunity, i deally we can get this 3-3 thru 6 then get la to score in the 7th thereby opening up the possiblity of a 8 1/2 ininng game- this is still very doable as long as billingsley continues to mow az hitters down. were on a tight rope here with 4-4 being a loser. i still believe.
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                                                      • MOONCRICKET
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 08-23-07
                                                        • 239

                                                        #28
                                                        6-6 huh?
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                                                        • freeVICK
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-21-08
                                                          • 7114

                                                          #29
                                                          lol my bad 3-3, gotta pray now
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                                                          • OrionSky
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-21-07
                                                            • 939

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
                                                            ...where did all the haters go? come out come out wherever you are? lol. you dont even need to watch it the line already told you the outcome, i'm tellin ya.
                                                            Why don't you come on over cricket - my turtles would love you!
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                                                            • St. Andrew
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-23-08
                                                              • 2265

                                                              #31
                                                              Here's another classic thread about "traps". WTF...how many times will we cover the same ground. Looks like this dude had the game capped correctly, then changed his mind and started capping the lines instead of the baseball game.

                                                              I take baseball betting seriously and devote alot of my time, probably too much, to handicapping. To read some of the shit in this thread, I swear, made me feel sick like I needed to throw up.
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                                                              • chipski
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-16-07
                                                                • 1745

                                                                #32
                                                                oddmakers are human , not supernatural beings , get serious

                                                                Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
                                                                ok maybe suck is a strong word for billingsley but 0-3 with a 6.14 era sucks, so maybe billingsley stinks would have been more appropriate. if you dont like that choice of words maybe you can tell me what you call a pitcher who has gone the entire season with giving his team a chance to win. REMEMBER 0-3 with a 6.14. what do you call that? anyways you are missing the point both pitchers have a combined era of 10.64 and the total opens up at 8.5??????? that right there tells you everything you need to know. nothing else is worth talking about, unless of course you wanna argue about how 0-3 with a 6.14 is any better than the word "suck" describes. I'm all ears.
                                                                o/u totals are blasted every day , sometimes they hit 4 or 5 runs over the posted total , sometimes the game is 3 - 2 ... so what . keeping it simple would save some brain cells .
                                                                really not as complicated as twisting theory and past results every which way but loose .
                                                                IS ALL ABOUT GETTING IT DONE WITH RUNNERS ON , THEY DO OR THEY DONT , WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS NOT IN THE LINEMAKERS CRYSTAL BALL . THOSE GUYS THAT MAKE THE LINES AND PLAY WITH THE LINES ALL DAY ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ME OR ALOT OF GUYS ON HERE .

                                                                THEY ARE RIGHT ON JUST LIKE THEY ARE WAAAY OFF ... is no crystal ball paid oddmakers have beside their beds , or their notes ......nothing anyone possessess on this earth that allows any source to know if one team will break the posted total by themselves or go scoreless through 11 innings ... come on man .
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                                                                • MOONCRICKET
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 08-23-07
                                                                  • 239

                                                                  #33
                                                                  well so much for that idea - back to th effin drawing board - i really have been on quite the run , but all good things come to a screeching halt i guess, well they did in my case abyhow. i really did love the play i really did hammer the play, and i really did have stl, tb, atl, wash, and baltimore. but all in all i think i lost around 3k tonight even with all those other winners cuz i had em hooked up with this under - to all you guys who played the move with i wish we coulda hit - we dont apologize in this game as each and every one of us has lost over 1000 games in our career -the line felt like a trap it looked like a trap and if ihad to do it over again i probably would have bet more on it. keep an eye out for the final results of the contest - unless i go on tilt i should be near the top when the smoke clears. im not hiding - im reallypissed off right now. its a tough loss for me, but i will bounce back - to all you guys who were cool with me about it i thank you for pullin for me. best of luck to you all and i'll be back some time soon when theres something big that i believe in i'll be sure to let you know. otherwise i love this forum i think its awesome and i love bein a part of it. it would be an error that led to me losing this bet - wouldnt be surprised if it ends 5-4 - a half run loser with any number of runs that could have been prevented but t hats why its called gambling and yeah im pissed about it but but im not gonna quit gambling any time soon. catch yall later.
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                                                                  • St. Andrew
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-23-08
                                                                    • 2265

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by MOONCRICKET
                                                                    well so much for that idea - back to th effin drawing board - i really have been on quite the run , but all good things come to a screeching halt i guess, well they did in my case abyhow. i really did love the play i really did hammer the play, and i really did have stl, tb, atl, wash, and baltimore. but all in all i think i lost around 3k tonight even with all those other winners cuz i had em hooked up with this under - to all you guys who played the move with i wish we coulda hit - we dont apologize in this game as each and every one of us has lost over 1000 games in our career -the line felt like a trap it looked like a trap and if ihad to do it over again i probably would have bet more on it. keep an eye out for the final results of the contest - unless i go on tilt i should be near the top when the smoke clears. im not hiding - im reallypissed off right now. its a tough loss for me, but i will bounce back - to all you guys who were cool with me about it i thank you for pullin for me. best of luck to you all and i'll be back some time soon when theres something big that i believe in i'll be sure to let you know. otherwise i love this forum i think its awesome and i love bein a part of it. it would be an error that led to me losing this bet - wouldnt be surprised if it ends 5-4 - a half run loser with any number of runs that could have been prevented but t hats why its called gambling and yeah im pissed about it but but im not gonna quit gambling any time soon. catch yall later.
                                                                    You're an intelligent guy, and I apologize for sounding rude earlier. I'm not telling anyone how to gamble. Good luck. Don't understand it, but good luck.
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                                                                    • pokernut9999
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-25-07
                                                                      • 12757

                                                                      #35


                                                                      Like I told you before the obvious plays do win as much as they lose.

                                                                      Money mangement is as important to gambling as handicapping.


                                                                      Even if it was a lock , why parlay with so many other games

                                                                      Just because you are ahead in the contest does not mean you are the best capper. Hell I finished 12th in the BTP contest for football, have been in the top 10 in this contest for weeks , and I am in the top 10 in the basketball contest.
                                                                      That is all 3 of the major sports and no one has ever said I was worth a shit. So quit bragging how damn good you are. You did this when you were 10-0 in the contest and then went on a 8-10 run. Win 6 in a row and here you go again.
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