John Morrison 2011 MLB

[J.M. Disciple]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/baseball-handicapping/1141021-jmd-labby-method-system.html

So here is the link to my new thread.

You are correct, the method of adding a new # to a line as a unit only works with 3 and 4 strike method, not traditional.

My system may be a little confusing cause im not as organized as some other people make their spread sheets, but it will still make money.

I'm sure I am not getting ahead of myself on this system cause its basically already been tested and has made massive amount of units. I have just improved it as you will read in the thread. Thats all im going to discuss about it on this thread. If anyone has questions, just post them on my thread and ill do my best to answer as always.

--jmd

[GGPLAYER]

Wow I'm so glad the only labby I deal with is my dog. This is me after reading all these posts

[SUPEREAGLE43]

Ggplayer, learn it. I promise u it will be the best tool in your arsenal.

[thelimit0310]

Yeah GGPlayer, it will be worth it to learn.

Thanks for the response Pagodo, JMD, I think for all new series starting I can add .3 units or something of that nature. I planned on having a very low unit size to start with, knowing how many times this system goes down means I will have a lot of money in play.

My labby as I showed was a mix of 4 strike and traditional. For example, I use the 2 strike method where my bets are the 1st and last number of my line, but when I lose I add a number slot to the end and divide my loss through. for instance 5-5-5-5 would be to win 10, if that loses my new line would be 6-6-6-6-6, 1 number has been added to the end of the line, but the loss was also averaged on the individual line. My next bet on that line would be the 1st and last number or to win/risk 12.

Now that I know to add a fraction of a unit for each new series and divide it through the lines. If there's another A bet the next day, I would add .5 of a unit to my lines making that first line 7-7-7-7-7.

Unless anything I've stated is incorrect (let me know if it is!), then I will be running my new labby the way I stated, 2 lines. Adding a number and average the individual line with every loss, and adding a fraction of a unit to the lines with each new series. Thanks guys! This is what this forum is all about!

[SUPEREAGLE43]

Be careful running only 2 lines. Would be better to have
4 lines for this.one for each step of the progression. Lines will get big fast with only 2 with all the losses.

[J.M. Disciple]

Sounds like you got it down TheLimit0310. I'm just going to refer to pages 174 - 176 for now on if anyone wants to understand the labby.

So little games today, i was hoping for some more action. Alright i guess thats it for today be back tomorrow morning.

If anyone wants a little action who uses labby check out my forum. Im officially up 1 unit so far today with 2 bets pending. unoficially im up a little more cause i didn't include the Oak game in the forum. Thats was one of my own bets before I made the thread.

--JMD

Wallco will you have 3 D bets tomorrow? Looking forward to it

[thelimit0310]

Thanks for the confirmation JMD. Now that I got my method down pat, Im going to start running it tomorrow or when there are new series starting. I'll update you all from time to time, and I'll let you all know if the method falls flat. If it does, then I think 4 lines as Supereagle said is the only way to properly labby this system. Still, as long as I start low so I can handle deep series, I think things should be okay.

Thanks again guys!

[J.M. Disciple]

Be careful running only 2 lines. Would be better to have
4 lines for this.one for each step of the progression. Lines will get big fast with only 2 with all the losses.

he is running traditional, so running 2 lines will be ok. Basically what he would have to do is this:

Labby line 1: 5 5 5 5
Labby line 2: 5 5 5 5

If Wallco has 4 bets on the day
Game1: first 2 #s on labby line 1
game 2: last 2 #s on labby line 1
game 3: 1st 2 #s labby line 2
game 4: last 2 #s labby line 2.

If you win all 4 bets both lines are clear. If you lose game 1 and game 2 your new line would be
5 5 5 5 10 10, then average it out. A more agressive method would be to do 5 5 5 5 20 and average it out.
Both ways work.

In essence running traditional labby method (2 strike) betting the way i stated above is the same as running 4 lines at
5 5
5 5
5 5
5 5

with 2 starting #s.

Since your starting with a smaller unit size I would prefer doing the more agressive method where i listed the 20 at the end of the line.

If you won game 1 and lost game 2 your line would be
5 5 10 then average it out.

ok i think this is my last post for today... starting to annoy myself actually.

--jmd

[thelimit0310]

he is running traditional, so running 2 lines will be ok. Basically what he would have to do is this:

Labby line 1: 5 5 5 5
Labby line 2: 5 5 5 5

If Wallco has 4 bets on the day
Game1: first 2 #s on labby line 1
game 2: last 2 #s on labby line 1
game 3: 1st 2 #s labby line 2
game 4: last 2 #s labby line 2.

If you win all 4 bets both lines are clear. If you lose game 1 and game 2 your new line would be
5 5 5 5 10 10, then average it out. A more agressive method would be to do 5 5 5 5 20 and average it out.
Both ways work.

--jmd

At best the A bet will perform at 50%, so at BEST I will still be losing half my A bets, so if those 4 plays are all A bets, I would most likely assign 1 number to each bet and play the games that way. If there are more than 4, I will total the line and divide it by how many bets there are per day. Yes, this will cost me units in the long term, but it will also give me less to recover on losses, which as I said, will happen more than wins at the A level. Dividing units into the line with each new series will help with that as well.

Just my way of keeping the lines frosty and keeping my losses down. Don't see any problems with it.

[pagodo]

Thanks for the confirmation JMD. Now that I got my method down pat, Im going to start running it tomorrow or when there are new series starting. I'll update you all from time to time, and I'll let you all know if the method falls flat. If it does, then I think 4 lines as Supereagle said is the only way to properly labby this system. Still, as long as I start low so I can handle deep series, I think things should be okay.

Thanks again guys!

Best of luck

I'm running six lines (on a 4-strike) and will be updating from time to time as well. I use other system plays with these lines as well, so I may be clearing them faster than with just Wallco's plays, but we'll see.

Now, let's get those D's tomorrow!

Wow I'm so glad the only labby I deal with is my dog. This is me after reading all these posts.

How do you manage the shutout games with the martingale, GGPlayer?

[Andy3568]

Wow I'm so glad the only labby I deal with is my dog. This is me after reading all these posts

You and me both! I thought I was somewhat proficient in math until now.

I need to look for a Labby 101 class.

[thelimit0310]

You and me both! I thought I was somewhat proficient in math until now.

I need to look for a Labby 101 class.

http://platinumsportsinvesting.com/labourchere.aspx

[G's pks]

Just a thought...seeing this system is having around 20% of its games go to a dangerous level...a "D" game...maybe make sure your labby is adjusted to that...good stuff boys!

[Wallco99]

Wow I'm so glad the only labby I deal with is my dog. This is me after reading all these posts

Hopefully this part will help you understand it better, they forgot to mention this:

我眼红？我才没那么幼稚呢。我只是说，现在的股市过热。作为投资人，一定要有心理准备 才行。我还得提醒你一句，炒股就跟赌博差不多。

[Wallco99]

Does anybody know why Florida has three consecutive home games at 10:10 pm EDT? I have never before seen this for an east coast team.

[Wallco99]

Does anybody know why Florida has three consecutive home games at 10:10 pm EDT? I have never before seen this for an east coast team.

Nevermind, I found it. U2 is playing at the Marlins home field so the games are being played in Seattle, Marlins will wear white, bat last, and they will play by N.L. rules. Who got fired for that scheduling screwup?

[mikey360]

Does anybody know why Florida has three consecutive home games at 10:10 pm EDT? I have never before seen this for an east coast team.

Think I heard the commentators today during the Mariners/Nationals game mention something about Floridas next series being away from home due to some concert being held in their stadium, so even though the next three games are home games, they really are on the road.

[SUPEREAGLE43]

[quote=thelimit0310;10542753]At best the A bet will perform at 50%, so at BEST I will still be losing half my A bets, so if those 4 plays are all A bets, I would most likely assign 1 number to each bet and play the games that way. If there are more than 4, I will total the line and divide it by how many bets there are per day. Yes, this will cost me units in the long term, but it will also give me less to recover on losses, which as I said, will happen more than wins at the A level. Dividing units into the line with each new series will help with that as well.

Just my way of keeping the lines frosty and keeping my losses down. Don't see any problems with it.[/quote

Limit, after thinking about it, Im not sure changing bet sizes based on how many plays there are is a good idea. What happens when you hit a run of winning small bets and losing large bets. It just doesnt seem like it will add up in your favor. Its already tough enough with the lower win percentage. What do you think?

[thelimit0310]

Limit, after thinking about it, Im not sure changing bet sizes based on how many plays there are is a good idea. What happens when you hit a run of winning small bets and losing large bets. It just doesnt seem like it will add up in your favor. Its already tough enough with the lower win percentage. What do you think?

It would only be for A and B bets that exceed 4 series, ie 5 A bets in a single day, not C and D, and both C and D are on the same lines as A and B (A/C, B/D). What happens when there are 7 A bets in a day and 6 of them lose and you bet a starting unit on each? All of a sudden you have 6 units to recover. It happens, it happened a few days ago.

I don't quite understand what you mean by hitting a run of winning small bets and losing large bets? I average my lines individually daily so every bet is the same size, none will be smaller than the other unless its a day where there are more than 4 A or B bets.

[gofightingirish]

cant wait for the three D bets tomorrow....ready to make some money

[dlunc3]

Wallco has already said that tomorrows play will be on boston... I have a feeling that the public may pound them tomorrow, so may be a good idea to get that bet in early

[Bugs Bunny]

Always average all numbers on the line for best results. I have tested this with many different datasets and it is always the best.

IceBet

Thanks IceBet

[19th Hole]

I realize that this is a John Morrison thread.

Wallco 99 and Hagball52 do a great service for
system players.

But I would like to find out if anyone has information
or an opinion on Tony Cross and his 2 and 3 Tiered systems.
Thank you for any opinions that you may have.

[Andy3568]

Wallco has already said that tomorrows play will be on boston... I have a feeling that the public may pound them tomorrow, so may be a good idea to get that bet in early

Red Sox ML: -165
Red Sox -1.5 RL: +100

No positive money with this one.

[eyeball]

Red Sox ML: -165
Red Sox -1.5 RL: +100

No positive money with this one.

I need to wait till he makes it official

Those are the rules

[Wallco99]

Red Sox ML: -165
Red Sox -1.5 RL: +100

No positive money with this one.

That one will be official, if you want to jump on it early.

[GGPLAYER]

Red Sox ML: -165
Red Sox -1.5 RL: +100

No positive money with this one.

I would rather get the win than worry about + money on this one!

[GGPLAYER]

Hopefully this part will help you understand it better, they forgot to mention this:

我眼红？我才没那么幼稚呢。我只是说，现在的股市过热。作为投资人，一定要有心理准备 才行。我还得提醒你一句，炒股就跟赌博差不多。

Thanks for clearing things up.

[GGPLAYER]

Best of luck





How do you manage the shutout games with the martingale, GGPlayer?

I have a $100k bankroll I don't bet till the 4th or 5th game. I could never chase all those if I did it any other way.

[hagball52]

JM MLB System

2011 Official season series record 11-1 (v1)
(A) 8-4
(B) 2-2
(C) 1-1
V2 plays 2-1
V3 system 2-1
Unofficial series 8-0

Upcoming Plays
(7/01/2011) Cincinnati v Cleveland
(7/01/2011) San Diego @ Seattle

Notes: There was one sweep yesterday with no future play. A little over a week of interleague play left and then we can get back to normal. July is loaded with Morrison plays (18) and the list could grow. I'm a little disappointed in JM. Usually when things are slow like this he is pounding the sales pitches to try and get us to send him all our money. I wonder how his "chumpselections" are doing ? Any bilionaires ?
GL all and have a great weekend.

[thelimit0310]

I have a $100k bankroll I don't bet till the 4th or 5th game. I could never chase all those if I did it any other way.

Christ man, how long did that take you?

[GGPLAYER]

It was a joke. I'm not sure if you follow the shut-out system but you can have 5-12 chase bets going on at once. If you don't labby you would need a $100k roll. I jump in when it hits the 4th or 5th game because it is a 6 game chase.

[thelimit0310]

It was a joke. I'm not sure if you follow the shut-out system but you can have 5-12 chase bets going on at once. If you don't labby you would need a $100k roll. I jump in when it hits the 4th or 5th game because it is a 6 game chase.

Ah, I see, I have looked in that thread and it may be much easier if you don't play both systems at once. Would at least cut the number of bets in half! Hah! But I guess this conversation is for a different thread :P

Can't wait for Wallco's plays, hopefully I see some "A"s in there so I can start my new method!

[Wallco99]

Wallco MLB PLU$$$
2011 System to date: 106-7
System profit/loss: +25.07 units (finished series)
Since my first post: +4.80 units (91-7) (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-22.04 units)


(A) 58-58
(B) 25-33
(C) 14-19
(D) 9-7


Games for (6/24/11):
Seattle (-1½) @ Florida (D) *Official* (10:10 pm EDT)
Boston (M/L) @ Pittsburgh (D) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
Boston (-1½) @ Pittsburgh (D) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
Atlanta (M/L) @ San Diego (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
Washington (M/L) @ Chicago White Sox (A) (8:10 pm EDT)

NOTE: Florida is the home team, however, the game is being played in Seattle.


** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1½) on the (-1½) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1½) on the team I have listed at (-1½), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1½) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
System backtest can be found in post #3446.

[thelimit0310]

Good luck on the D bets tonight guys, they look solid especially Boston. Hopefully we can pick up the pace soon, we're already at 22 D bets out of an average of 28 per season. I have faith though, best of luck guys on the plays guys