Will the Phillies break the record for wins in the NL?

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  • BettingWizard
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-28-09
    • 6522

    #1
    Will the Phillies break the record for wins in the NL?
    think it's a lock if their bullpen improves from last year
  • Brocc
    SBR MVP
    • 12-25-09
    • 1660

    #2
    First of all, the Phils bullpen will now become the most underused BP in the majors. They have a rotation that can go 8 or 9 innings every game! Think about what you just said... The BP will be robbing money next year as they sit back and watch the 2011 Phillies go on their World Series run...Done Deal...Book it!




    Already locked in Over 96 wins for $1000
    Phils to win NLCS -150 (10X)
    Phils to win WS +160 (10X)
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    • simplydusty
      SBR High Roller
      • 12-18-08
      • 229

      #3
      This has to be the best rotation ever. Their 4th is better than some team's 1st
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      • BettingWizard
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-28-09
        • 6522

        #4
        no doubt they will be underused, just saying if their setup guy and closer have terrible years, that's still about 10 wins lost.
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        • Brocc
          SBR MVP
          • 12-25-09
          • 1660

          #5
          Originally posted by BettingWizard
          no doubt they will be underused, just saying if their setup guy and closer have terrible years, that's still about 10 wins lost.
          Madson is really coming around & Lidge looks to have regained his 2009 form...Plus they picked up that lefty closer ...This rotation will add years to the BP pitchers lives!
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          • Jrod124
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-31-09
            • 5622

            #6
            Originally posted by Brocc
            First of all, the Phils bullpen will now become the most underused BP in the majors. They have a rotation that can go 8 or 9 innings every game! Think about what you just said... The BP will be robbing money next year as they sit back and watch the 2011 Phillies go on their World Series run...Done Deal...Book it!




            Already locked in Over 96 wins for $1000
            Phils to win NLCS -150 (10X)
            Phils to win WS +160 (10X)

            Are u kidding me? Where can I bet the field at -200? +160 to win a championship in Baseball is a joke. They got a good team but its "baseball" horrible line.
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            • pizzaboyrick
              SBR Rookie
              • 07-09-09
              • 12

              #7
              But can they all stay healthy???
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              • JMobile
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-21-10
                • 19074

                #8
                The offense will screw them over.
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                • smitch124
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-19-08
                  • 12566

                  #9
                  What is the record for wins in the NL?
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                  • Wiggums5
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-05-10
                    • 2409

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JMobile
                    The offense will screw them over.
                    This exactly. People aren't realizing that the Phillies have real problems in the OF. Brown hasn't proved himself on the MLB level yet and Ibanez is going downhill.
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                    • Willie Bee
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-14-06
                      • 15726

                      #11
                      Originally posted by smitch124
                      What is the record for wins in the NL?
                      116, 1906 Cubs. Did it in a shorter season, completing only 152 games that year.

                      The most since moving to a 162-game slate is 108, accomplished twice (1975 Reds, 1986 Mets).
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                      • Willie Bee
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-14-06
                        • 15726

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brocc
                        Already locked in Over 96 wins for $1000
                        Phils to win NLCS -150 (10X)
                        Phils to win WS +160 (10X)
                        Brocc, where are you playing these? I'd love to get locked in on some season win totals right now.
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                        • smitch124
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-19-08
                          • 12566

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Willie Bee
                          116, 1906 Cubs. Did it in a shorter season, completing only 152 games that year.

                          The most since moving to a 162-game slate is 108, accomplished twice (1975 Reds, 1986 Mets).
                          Interesting, Reds did it mostly with hitting. The Mets, though, look like they had a comparable top 4:

                          Gooden 17-6 2.84
                          Darling 15-6 2.81
                          Ojeda 18-5 2.57
                          Fernandez 16-6 3.52
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                          • Willie Bee
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-14-06
                            • 15726

                            #14
                            Yep, '86 Mets had a solid rotation, but they also had a very, very potent offense and very good bullpen. They led NL in scoring and had some pop in the order. Remember, the '86 season was one year before the infamous 1987 "rabbit ball" explosion. The '75 Reds also had a very balanced and deep bullpen in addition to their bats.
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                            • benjy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-19-09
                              • 2158

                              #15
                              Prop lines already? I'm curious too. Where are you getting these?
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                              • BrigadierPudding
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-07-09
                                • 617

                                #16
                                No, they're not winning 116 games. Weak offense and a shaky bullpen. The Braves teams with Maddux/Glavine/Smoltz/Avery never came close to 116.
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                                • BettingWizard
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-28-09
                                  • 6522

                                  #17
                                  Phillies rotation blows away that Braves rotation
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                                  • mvp123
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-24-06
                                    • 1736

                                    #18
                                    the current o/u win line in vegas is only 96 thats way to easy , hell they won 97 last yr with all those injuries and long spells with no hitting for 6 weeks straight . that line tells me to bet the under or pass but i dont know ....i mean 96 90 fricken 6 with that lineup is crazy they should top 102 easy you would think
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                                    • Terrapin Station
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-05-10
                                      • 2583

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Brocc
                                      First of all, the Phils bullpen will now become the most underused BP in the majors. They have a rotation that can go 8 or 9 innings every game! Think about what you just said... The BP will be robbing money next year as they sit back and watch the 2011 Phillies go on their World Series run...Done Deal...Book it!




                                      Already locked in Over 96 wins for $1000
                                      Phils to win NLCS -150 (10X)
                                      Phils to win WS +160 (10X)
                                      Where did you get these lines? Very interested.
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                                      • yisman
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-01-08
                                        • 75682

                                        #20
                                        I'm pretty certain they won't.
                                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                        [/quote]

                                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                        • jollyoscars
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 04-25-10
                                          • 470

                                          #21
                                          they probably will!
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                                          • BRAVES1985
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-23-10
                                            • 4250

                                            #22
                                            116 wins hell no they will be atleast 10 wins short of the record
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                                            • sq764
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-17-07
                                              • 1026

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BettingWizard
                                              think it's a lock if their bullpen improves from last year
                                              you have to assume no injuries... the danger here is that you have halladay, oswalt, lee all over 30 and more prone to injury
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                                              • Chris7mccabe
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 08-13-10
                                                • 188

                                                #24
                                                How about the chance of injuries and we don't just anoint this team the same way people were anointing the Miami Heat. This team will take time to mesh again and don't count out the loss of Jayson Werth in the middle of that lineup. In regards to "the most underused bullpen in the MLB" well have to wait and see just how well all four of these guys do. Not saying this isn't a good or even great team with an unreal rotation but lets not kid ourselves saying this team even as chance of breaking the NL record.
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                                                • mlb
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-04-09
                                                  • 10509

                                                  #25
                                                  I would not wager that kind of money on something so uncertain. injuries, suspensions, chemistry problems, fatigue can all ruin those win total chances but with all of that said if everything holds up it would be hard to bet against that pitching staff. I don't really know about the win total but as for the post season, they will be tough to handle.
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                                                  • CrimsonQueen
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-12-09
                                                    • 1068

                                                    #26
                                                    Their offense last year won a couple game 1-0.... IE. the PERFECT game was 1-0... if the offense doesn't step up (and they lost Werth), then I don't know how many perfect games they have up their sleeves, but they'll need some.
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