Are the Texas Rangers a fraud? If they were in the AL East, where do they finish?

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  • Iceman
    SBR Sharp
    • 08-29-08
    • 486

    #1
    Are the Texas Rangers a fraud? If they were in the AL East, where do they finish?
    Let's say they traded divisions with Baltimore, where would they finish?

    I don't have the info in front of me but I know they have a bad record against the AL East this year.

    I say they would finish clearly behind the Red Sox and maybe even behind Toronto.

    Still a good team and one that I have a small wager on to win the World Series at a decent price. I just don't like this team and think its badly overrated.
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    They have gone up against some tough pitchers of late

    They are ok
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    • Patrick McIrish
      SBR MVP
      • 09-15-05
      • 2864

      #3
      Not sure "fraud" is the right word but I agree they might be a bit overrated in the minds of most. To answer the question I believe they'd finish 4th in the AL East if they played in that division. Of course I'm not sure the 3 best teams in baseball aren't playing in the AL East, finishing 4th is probably about the best anyone else could hope for.
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      • tanner40
        SBR MVP
        • 03-24-10
        • 2129

        #4
        They would be ahead of the Birds
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        • Iceman
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          • 08-29-08
          • 486

          #5
          I counted them 7-10 against .500 or above teams in series match-ups. Keep in mind they most likely not only play in the worst division in baseball with only 1 team above .500 (themselves). In fact every other division has at least 2 teams 11 games or more above .500.
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          • nosniboR11
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-02-08
            • 10042

            #6
            first off, a few injuries, resting people, they have a big lead, they will be fine, not a fraud and its not logical to comment to much on your statement since the rangers are not in the east and never have been and never will be
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            • EmpireMaker
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 06-18-09
              • 15581

              #7
              I think that they are overrated. They are not nearly as bad as the O's, who actually are playing a little better lately.
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              • Iceman
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                • 08-29-08
                • 486

                #8
                Originally posted by nosniboR11
                first off, a few injuries, resting people, they have a big lead, they will be fine, not a fraud and its not logical to comment to much on your statement since the rangers are not in the east and never have been and never will be

                the point is all the talk about them being a great team is kind of a joke, IMO. They are above average is about it. If they were faced with the sked of the east teams we would have never heard of them being mentioned in any of this tals. The reason for this is when they have had their chance to play the "big boys" they have failed against them. This is not a great team at all, above average but I think will be clearly the worst team of the AL playoff teams.
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                • nosniboR11
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-02-08
                  • 10042

                  #9
                  we will see in the playoffs when it matters ice, but yes lately been an average team, all the trades have sucked except cliff lee, but i think when all healthy and the correct lineup in play will be ok, a decent playoff team that can compete and win, I think the manager cokehead Ron Washington is what sucks, he does so many stupid things

                  take care and good luck
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                  • donkdown
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                    • 07-09-09
                    • 4423

                    #10
                    they finish 2nd
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                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                      • 06-10-10
                      • 13024

                      #11
                      far from a fraud. they can score in bunches and lee piching 2 times in a series is a good thing.
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                      • Iceman
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 08-29-08
                        • 486

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nosniboR11
                        we will see in the playoffs when it matters ice, but yes lately been an average team, all the trades have sucked except cliff lee, but i think when all healthy and the correct lineup in play will be ok, a decent playoff team that can compete and win, I think the manager cokehead Ron Washington is what sucks, he does so many stupid things

                        take care and good luck

                        Let me state again, I think they are good just not great like most people feel. In fact I think its abvious they are a level or two below the top teams in the AL.

                        I think there is some good money to be made fading them the rest of the year when they face the upper teams as there seems to be this feeling amongst most people that they are lumped in with the upper teams and I just don't see it.

                        Good luck to you also.
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                        • Mybologne
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-20-09
                          • 13507

                          #13
                          texas is just like any other team there in a slump... just like the yankees, but once they come out of it watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                          • linedrivr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-04-10
                            • 2223

                            #14
                            they have injuries all over the roster. alot different than being in a slump. Look at their injury list. They can play with anybody when their starters are healthy. you will see them losing quite a few games the next couple weeks until they start healing up. they will be lucky to split the 4 games with balty starting tomorrow.
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                            • Pokerjoe
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 04-17-09
                              • 704

                              #15
                              I think they're the most overrated team in the league, fwiw. By a lot. Braves the most underrated.
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                              • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-17-09
                                • 11939

                                #16
                                Good point out. Definitely a team I'll consider come playoff time.
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                                • lakerboy
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 94379

                                  #17
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                                  • nosniboR11
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-02-08
                                    • 10042

                                    #18
                                    favorite to win the world series
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                                    • l7ustin
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-09-08
                                      • 3914

                                      #19
                                      hey iceman hows that fade the rangers strat working?? post some pics of that bankroll of yours
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                                      • zigomanisinsider
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                                        • 07-28-09
                                        • 4007

                                        #20
                                        rangers world series
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                                        • Iceman
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 08-29-08
                                          • 486

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by l7ustin
                                          hey iceman hows that fade the rangers strat working?? post some pics of that bankroll of yours

                                          On August 17th when I posted this thread this team was struggling against top competition and I made a very nice profit off them during that time. Also if you read my first line it says I have a nice world series future price with them also, so good to go there. Would love to see them win it all.

                                          Point is things change all the time in betting and at this time the rangers were a money burner when facing top teams. The Rangers going 6-4 in the playoffs so far hasn't effected my bankroll either good or bad, thats like two units or so. In fact it would take a lot to lose the profit I made off of fading them at times mid summer this year. Thanks!!
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                                          • Rixsaw
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-23-08
                                            • 4532

                                            #22
                                            I remember the Rangers beating Tampa Bay who has the best record in the AL. That should answer any question you may have.
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                                            • txmagnolia2
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 10-01-10
                                              • 179

                                              #23
                                              I think the Rangers have proven themselves to be good team. They lack quality middle relief though.
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                                              • chaseutleyfan26
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 06-16-10
                                                • 218

                                                #24
                                                hey, they're winning their series right now and they won their series against the rays, both of which are in the AL East. Maybe that proves that they may actually be for real?
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                                                • Willie Bee
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-14-06
                                                  • 15726

                                                  #25
                                                  Texas played, I think, 44 games against AL East this season. Without checking I think they were right at .500, maybe 21-23, and closed with an over-.500 mark against those teams in the second half.

                                                  Not sure how the division would finish, would definitely have been the strongest group this season. But I also believe y'all are assuming the Yankees and Rays would still be collecting their wins against the O's while the Rangers would only be adding up losses against NYY-TAM-BOS-TOR. If you're taking Baltimore out, you have to also subtract the winning marks the others had against the Orioles (Texas might prefer not playing the O's, remember the 4-game set in Baltimore just before the break?).
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                                                  • rickbo528
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-22-08
                                                    • 1842

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by txmagnolia2
                                                    I think the Rangers have proven themselves to be good team. They lack quality middle relief though.

                                                    And the Yankees have had quality middle relief in this series? Other than the game 1 meltdown Texas bullpen has more than held their own.
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                                                    • VicVega91
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                                                      • 10-05-09
                                                      • 519

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Pokerjoe
                                                      I think they're the most overrated team in the league, fwiw. By a lot. Braves the most underrated.
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                                                      • VicVega91
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                                                        • 10-05-09
                                                        • 519

                                                        #28
                                                        Rangers would contend for first with Yanks, TB and Boston
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