Question for those of you on BOS +114, StL +122 and/or NYY +121

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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Question for those of you on BOS +114, StL +122 and/or NYY +121
    Don't you find it odd that you're getting such good prices on teams that have typically owned their opponents tonight?

    Red Sox are dogs, despite Dice-K's track record vs. TOR and RR's vs. BOS.

    Cardinals are dogs, despite Garcia's #'s vs. CIN and Cueto's #'s vs. StL this year and the fact that the Cardinals won big last night on the Reds' turf.

    Yankees are dogs, despite owning the AL West this year and having won 23 of 32 in Arlington.

    Shouldn't all of these games be virtual pick 'ems, all things considered? Why are three high-profile public teams at + money?
  • Darkside Magick
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-28-10
    • 12638

    #2
    the yankess is a square play... burnett back still hurt and that means nothing but breaking balls
    reds should beat the cards!
    i like the sox over the jays
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    • dodger33
      SBR MVP
      • 08-14-09
      • 3962

      #3
      Very interesting... Burnett has been crappy at best lately. Cincy is getting a lot of backing from the public tonight so that line must be just right and boston toronto has just about 50 50 betting.
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      • MrTwiz
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-26-10
        • 913

        #4
        Big games/Div races, edge goes to home team. But yes i did figure them to be more of a -115/+105 type of line

        Still I'll take tor, cin, and the yanks
        God hates cowards
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        • No coincidences
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-18-10
          • 76300

          #5
          StL, for instance, was what -135 last night?

          Now they're +122 coming off a convincing win?

          Even though the pitching matchups are more "equal," doesn't that say something?
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          • MrTwiz
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-26-10
            • 913

            #6
            Their bullpen is in shambles right now, even though they got to rest last night, still the reds have more 9th inning wins than anyone, if its a close game, id want to have the reds
            God hates cowards
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            • tatddy
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-02-10
              • 10779

              #7
              Originally posted by No coincidences
              StL, for instance, was what -135 last night?

              Now they're +122 coming off a convincing win?

              Even though the pitching matchups are more "equal," doesn't that say something?
              Leake v Carpenter was a mismatch right from the start. Today CIN should be favored, even more so coming off that loss. Garcia is ready to regress at any time and Cueto is in a good spot despite his mediocre showings against STL. Books don't want people pounding CIN.
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              • No coincidences
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-18-10
                • 76300

                #8
                Originally posted by tatddy
                Leake v Carpenter was a mismatch right from the start. Today CIN should be favored, even more so coming off that loss. Garcia is ready to regress at any time and Cueto is in a good spot despite his mediocre showings against STL. Books don't want people pounding CIN.
                Honestly, I figured CIN would be -115 at best today. I thought TOR would be about -105 or -110, and TEX about the same.

                The books want action first and foremost. Oddsmakers want to set a line that will draw the interest of both sides equally. By giving StL, BOS and NYY at + money, I think they've done that. IMHO, all three are a trap.
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                • THE PROFIT
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-27-09
                  • 17701

                  #9
                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                  StL, for instance, was what -135 last night?

                  Now they're +122 coming off a convincing win?

                  Even though the pitching matchups are more "equal," doesn't that say something?
                  I wouldnt call that a convincing win. All 7 of their runs were in one inning from a meltdown just like Leake had against Pitt. They scored no more while Cincy scored 3. Just like Pitt scored 1 more while Cincy scored 6.

                  1 bad inning from a pitcher giving up 7 and then nothing else from the offense is far from convincing
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                  • No coincidences
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-18-10
                    • 76300

                    #10
                    Originally posted by THE PROFIT
                    I wouldnt call that a convincing win. All 7 of their runs were in one inning from a meltdown just like Leake had against Pitt. They scored no more while Cincy scored 3. Just like Pitt scored 1 more while Cincy scored 6.

                    1 bad inning from a pitcher giving up 7 and then nothing else from the offense is far from convincing
                    No matter how you slice it, it's a 4-run win in a game that was never in doubt after that inning. Cards are now 8-5 vs. the Reds this year.

                    Another interesting fact: in the 13 games head-to-head, you know how many times CIN has been favored this season? Once.
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                    • PAYTON20
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-02-10
                      • 5217

                      #11
                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                      Another interesting fact: in the 13 games head-to-head, you know how many times CIN has been favored this season? Once.
                      Did they win?

                      You also have to take into consideration that St. Louis has been the outright favorite to win the division since pre-season. The books probably didn't know if Cincy was for real or not earlier in the year
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                      • dodger33
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-14-09
                        • 3962

                        #12
                        Originally posted by No coincidences
                        Another interesting fact: in the 13 games head-to-head, you know how many times CIN has been favored this season? Once.
                        Did they win?
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                        • PAYTON20
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-02-10
                          • 5217

                          #13
                          BTW NoCoin, thanks for trying to back me off the A's last night Good hunch on Seattle. Even better hit on your SF play!
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                          • og4667
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-17-09
                            • 2438

                            #14
                            don't read too much into the lines it will give you a headache. This isn't basketball/football with inflated pointspreads, just pick a winner. You also may be right that all three are a trap but all 3 won't win. I will comment on the red sox game and even the players that are still on that team and not on the DL have great numbers vs ricky. Books can only set the line and blue jays should be favorites in based on the recent play but it doesn't mean the Red Sox won't tee off on ricky like they have done in the past.
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                            • I.L.S
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 05-09-10
                              • 400

                              #15
                              Im on BLUE JAYS and RANGERS ,and not because the "wierd" odds...
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                              • $Burm$
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-03-09
                                • 3019

                                #16
                                i like the cards 2 win 2night.
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                                • Joe_Shabadoo
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-17-09
                                  • 607

                                  #17
                                  How I perceive it, is that public perception, though being commonplace, is expected to be more of a factor in the aforementioned games.

                                  Boston:
                                  • The itinerary of players on the DL, and what one would think seeing the injury list on a match-up preview
                                  • Toronto's recent bashing of Tampa, and the allure of the slugging that they offer
                                  • The collective sentiment of Matsuzaka's season performance
                                  New York:
                                  • Um --- A.J. Burnett.
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                                  • No coincidences
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-18-10
                                    • 76300

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                    BTW NoCoin, thanks for trying to back me off the A's last night Good hunch on Seattle. Even better hit on your SF play!
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                                    • Rixsaw
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-23-08
                                      • 4532

                                      #19
                                      Jays just swept TB. I can see why Jays is fav.
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