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  • lyon804
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 11-02-09
    • 6526

    #1
    Washington -115 -130
    Can anybody tell me why Washington is favored on the road to Marlins? I see Strasburg is pitching is that all?
  • $Burm$
    Restricted User
    • 12-03-09
    • 3019

    #2
    there is no other reason....great value with the marlins
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    • chibears
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-08-09
      • 786

      #3
      going with the value.
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      • make$take$
        SBR Sharp
        • 06-15-10
        • 333

        #4
        Nolasco got beat up by Wash earlier this year, Strasburg's era is half of Nolasco's, Wash pen is better, and hitting is pretty even w/ edge to Wash in power. The only thing going for FLA is they r at home
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        • jennahazeplays
          Restricted User
          • 03-15-10
          • 474

          #5
          yyes good pitcher
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          • HoulihansTX
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-12-09
            • 30566

            #6
            Two below average teams. has coin flip written all over it.
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            • jennahazeplays
              Restricted User
              • 03-15-10
              • 474

              #7
              ooverated a bit
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              • jennahazeplays
                Restricted User
                • 03-15-10
                • 474

                #8
                decent value tho
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                • lyon804
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-02-09
                  • 6526

                  #9
                  IMO, Strasburg is a once in a generation talent but at the same time the hype machine is a little bit overdone. His numbers have changed once he quit pitching to Pirates and Indians. I can tell you right now the Marlins will not back down from the challenge. He might strike out double digits against the Marlins today, but there is not a guy in that lineup that will be overly impressed by his fastball. Marlins are a young group and you can't throw it past them.


                  Thanks for any and all opinions.
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                  • make$take$
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-15-10
                    • 333

                    #10
                    Strasburg gets so much hate on this forum but the most he has given up is 3 runs as a rookie w/ all this hype around him and he will only get better. I don't see how he is overrated
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                    • make$take$
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 06-15-10
                      • 333

                      #11
                      And he has faced more than the pirates and indians, like chisox, braves, kc has the best avg in the league last I checked
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                      • lyon804
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-02-09
                        • 6526

                        #12
                        Originally posted by make$take$
                        Strasburg gets so much hate on this forum but the most he has given up is 3 runs as a rookie w/ all this hype around him and he will only get better. I don't see how he is overrated

                        No hate my brother.. Just stating my opinion. He is very good, but consider some of the competettion he has dominated. He has not been near as dominant pitching against the NL East. I can't give the winner of todays game but I see value in the Marlins in this spot considering that Strasburg will most likely max out at 6in pitched today so he only figures into part of todays equation. I expect him to strikeout many Marlins today but they will take him to many deep counts with strikeouts and some occasional hits which makes him getting out of the 6th inning a 50/50 prop imo and then you are competing bullpens with the Strasburg price on the ML.. get my opinion? Not hate just my opinion.
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                        • tonyp0387
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-11-10
                          • 617

                          #13
                          the line looks low every moron in the world will have nats.
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            Originally posted by make$take$
                            Strasburg gets so much hate on this forum but the most he has given up is 3 runs as a rookie w/ all this hype around him and he will only get better. I don't see how he is overrated
                            Originally posted by make$take$
                            And he has faced more than the pirates and indians, like chisox, braves, kc has the best avg in the league last I checked


                            its not hate my friend, we are gamblers and the fact is as great as Stas is he is overpriced in every start he makes, go look at how much money you would be up/down betting against him in his starts (it that simple)...you will not find anyone here that doesnt think he is a once in a lifetime type talent, that doesnt change the fact it has been a good bet going against him...look at today a team that is 14-29 on the road has no business being a road fav, PERIOD.......
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                            • lyon804
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-02-09
                              • 6526

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 2daBank
                              its not hate my friend, we are gamblers and the fact is as great as Stas is he is overpriced in every start he makes, go look at how much money you would be up/down betting against him in his starts (it that simple)...you will not find anyone here that doesnt think he is a once in a lifetime type talent, that doesnt change the fact it has been a good bet going against him...look at today a team that is 14-29 on the road has no business being a road fav, PERIOD.......


                              TY Banker. I couldn't have said it better myself. I tried to explain the same thing above. We ain't got time for hate in this game. You have to be objective as you possibly can. Probably why I only have one team I pull for in any professional sports. I grew up a gambler, not a fan.
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                              • whatsgood5
                                Restricted User
                                • 10-13-09
                                • 15359

                                #16
                                Originally posted by make$take$
                                Nolasco got beat up by Wash earlier this year, Strasburg's era is half of Nolasco's, Wash pen is better, and hitting is pretty even w/ edge to Wash in power. The only thing going for FLA is they r at home
                                Marlins actually have identical road/home records, not too big of an advantage.

                                I like the Nats here.
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                                • make$take$
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 06-15-10
                                  • 333

                                  #17
                                  I just think he is being undervalued in this start. -130 is way more value for Nats with him on the mound imo
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by lyon804
                                    TY Banker. I couldn't have said it better myself. I tried to explain the same thing above. We ain't got time for hate in this game. You have to be objective as you possibly can. Probably why I only have one team I pull for in any professional sports. I grew up a gambler, not a fan.

                                    yea i saw you pretty much had the same thing put up after i posted (great minds think alike)...always been more of a gambler than a fan (some say i have no soul)...Cardinals are the only team in any sport i have any loyalty to and the fact is there certain spots where i will bet against them in a heartbeat as i got a few stl situational spots that are money to fade them.....
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                                    • SRBI
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-20-09
                                      • 8393

                                      #19
                                      I'd be all over him if this game was at Washington. But it's not. So if anything I'm with you on the Fish.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by make$take$
                                        I just think he is being undervalued in this start. -130 is way more value for Nats with him on the mound imo

                                        14-29 on the road and they are -130, that is not "value" (honestly hate that word, probably the most overused word on this site)......
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                                        • thebestthereis
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-01-09
                                          • 11459

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                          its not hate my friend, we are gamblers and the fact is as great as Stas is he is overpriced in every start he makes, go look at how much money you would be up/down betting against him in his starts (it that simple)...you will not find anyone here that doesnt think he is a once in a lifetime type talent, that doesnt change the fact it has been a good bet going against him...look at today a team that is 14-29 on the road has no business being a road fav, PERIOD.......
                                          couldn't of said it better myself, teams win pitchers do not. if you can cap burg boy (or any pitcher) hitting 2 homeruns in games they start then you have a an argument.
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                                          • lyon804
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-02-09
                                            • 6526

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by make$take$
                                            I just think he is being undervalued in this start. -130 is way more value for Nats with him on the mound imo


                                            In this game of handicapping we have to make assumptions based on many criteria and have a long term focus and outlook.


                                            Let's look at this on a very reasonable level.

                                            Wash -130 give you implied odds of 56.52%
                                            Florida Marlins +110 give you implied odds of 47.42%



                                            So in fact you are telling me that playing Washington on the road in this scenario is going to win long term more than 57% of the time?? Because that's exactly what has to happen for this to be a +EV scenario. Are you playing for what just happens today or do you have a long term focus? Because I won't mince words when I tell you that the Washington is a -EV proposistion all day long. Can they win today? Well sure. I have not the slightest idea who wins today, but long term... The Marlins is the only play here.
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                                            • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-17-09
                                              • 11939

                                              #23
                                              I like the Nats,
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                                              • 2daBank
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-26-09
                                                • 88966

                                                #24
                                                Nolasco has been hot as of late and we all have seen how pitchers step there game up against Stras....hell the line dropping should tell ppl all they need to know.....
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                                                • SRBI
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-20-09
                                                  • 8393

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                  I like the Nats,
                                                  I like whatever you don't like - and I dislike anything you like

                                                  How about a 'friendly gentlemens bet' - I'll give you Nats at EVEN money for 25. Nats win, I pay 25, Fish win, you pay 25.

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                                                  • Muddy
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-16-09
                                                    • 621

                                                    #26
                                                    Coin flip. I see a 3-1 type of game, on the under.
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                                                    • 2daBank
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-26-09
                                                      • 88966

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Muddy
                                                      Coin flip. I see a 3-1 type of game, on the under.

                                                      do think under is a solid play..
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                                                      • thebestthereis
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-01-09
                                                        • 11459

                                                        #28
                                                        for anyone wanting to back burgboy now is the time. at -115 u likely won't see it again this year, maybe. burg boy will only pitch until early september then they will shut him down.
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