CUBS LOCK with Ryan Dempster tonight

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  • nobs
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    • 08-31-09
    • 4216

    #1
    CUBS LOCK with Ryan Dempster tonight
    To me, Everything about this Cubs game tonight points to the fact that the Cubs should be a pretty nice favorite here, yet this game is a pick em at -110 both ways.

    I dont get that at all. The Cubs should be -170 or higher, and I am telling you right now the Cubs are going to win this game.

    The Cubs start Ryan Dempster tonight. His numbers are better than his opponents in every category. Dempster comes in with a 3.54 ERA. He has 17 starts for 117 innings pitched. In those 117 innings, Dempster has allowed 95 hits, 50 runs, 42 walks, and recorded 114 strikeouts.

    By comparison, Edwin jackson also has 17 starts. He has a 4.74 ERA, 112 innings pitched, has allowed 110 hits for almost 1 hit per inning which is really bad. He has also allowed 60 runs, 48 walks and only recorded 89 strikeouts.

    Dempster - 17 starts- 117 innings - 95 hits - 50 runs - 42 walks - 114 K
    Jackson - 17 starts- 112 innings - 110 hits-60 runs - 48 walks - 89 K

    Clearly, the price of this game is faded toward Jackson because of his no hitter, which of course got a lot of attention and therefore a lot of people just bet him blindly now.

    But since his no hitter, Jackson has been hit hard every time out and has an ERA of almost 6.75 since that game. I expect more of that tonight as I think this Cubs lineup will get to Jackson early and often.

    I think the Cubs also have the advantage looking at the lineups. With the exception of Aramis Ramirez, the Cubs entire lineup is batting .270 or better. Not counting the pitcher of course. So while the Cubs may not have a lot of big .350 hitters, they do bring a consistent lineup where any spot can kill you.

    Even Ramirez, who is only hitting .184 is a serious threat. We all know what he is capable of, and he was 2 for 4 with 4 RBI last night. Ramirez is certainly not a .184 hitter. So really, Jackson will not have a break at any point going through teh Cub lineup.

    While the Cubs dont have a true under .270 batter in the lineup, EVERY Diamondback in the lineup is hitting under .270 except Montero. The Dbacks just have no punch at all.

    Young .265
    Johnson .268
    Upton .260
    Montero .377
    Reynolds .217
    LaRoche .251
    Drew .265
    Parra .258


    The Cubs also used 2 relievers last night, while the DBacks had to use 5. so if this game goes to the bullpens close ( which it wont ) the Cubs have more fresh relievers to turn to.

    I just think this is a game to good to pass up. Without a doubt the Cubs shouyld be a nice size favorite here. They have the better record, better pitcher, better batting, and more rested bullpen. yet because Jackson through that no hitter, his prices will be inflated for a while until bettors realize it was a fluke.

    The Cubs can be found for +100 in some places and thats a great deal on a team that should be a big favorite. Thats a really great price on a team that is a *** LOCK *** tonight.




    Good Luck on all plays
  • thebayareabeast
    SBR MVP
    • 04-22-10
    • 1475

    #2
    Im on the other side... I like the way Edwin Jackson has been tossing. I'm gonna roll with the slight home dog.
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    • Rixsaw
      SBR MVP
      • 10-23-08
      • 4532

      #3
      CUBS & DUMPSTER are never a lock. Thanks for the play, DBAG it is.
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      • jagaf22
        SBR MVP
        • 01-22-08
        • 2932

        #4
        I like the D-backs to get it done at home.
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        • Patrick McIrish
          SBR MVP
          • 09-15-05
          • 2864

          #5
          Originally posted by Rixsaw
          CUBS & DUMPSTER are never a lock.


          Yeah, that's for sure. I won't go as far to say they can't win but no chance this is a sure thing, not even close. In fact if Jackson brings his A stuff of late he might shut the Cubbies completely down. I'm calling an Arizona 6-2 victory. Good luck all.
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          • nobs
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            • 08-31-09
            • 4216

            #6
            Is that you saying that Patrick, or did your nephew steal your password again ?
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            • Duby
              SBR MVP
              • 01-26-09
              • 3608

              #7
              I have been burnt by Cubs too many times this year...They are officially the first team on my NO BET list!

              GL
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              • chrisharvard01
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                • 10-24-08
                • 2943

                #8
                DEMPSTER is unreliable. Both teams are horrible. Maybe the CUBS latest hitting efforts continue tonight but I don't trust them to win.

                ARZ with the worst pen in the majors, could allow 9 alone!


                OVER 9 (EV)
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                • BiffTFinancial
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-29-09
                  • 22670

                  #9
                  BOL.
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                  • freddues
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-29-08
                    • 591

                    #10
                    How can you say Cubs and Lock in the same sentence?

                    Really?

                    I wish you good luck with this, however I believe Dempster's golden days are over!

                    Ariz has bats, BIG BATS!
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                    • WvGambler
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-19-10
                      • 11618

                      #11
                      Gotta roll Cubs here, and the over. Edwin is still prone to walks, and we all know what that Dback bullpen can do. Dempster keeps it close and the cubs get 3-4 runs off the dback bullpen.
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                      • goldengreek
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-25-07
                        • 8340

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nobs
                        to me, everything about this cubs game tonight points to the fact that the cubs should be a pretty nice favorite here, yet this game is a pick em at -110 both ways.

                        I dont get that at all. The cubs should be -170 or higher, and i am telling you right now the cubs are going to win this game.

                        The cubs start ryan dempster tonight. His numbers are better than his opponents in every category. Dempster comes in with a 3.54 era. He has 17 starts for 117 innings pitched. In those 117 innings, dempster has allowed 95 hits, 50 runs, 42 walks, and recorded 114 strikeouts.

                        By comparison, edwin jackson also has 17 starts. He has a 4.74 era, 112 innings pitched, has allowed 110 hits for almost 1 hit per inning which is really bad. He has also allowed 60 runs, 48 walks and only recorded 89 strikeouts.

                        Dempster - 17 starts- 117 innings - 95 hits - 50 runs - 42 walks - 114 k
                        jackson - 17 starts- 112 innings - 110 hits-60 runs - 48 walks - 89 k

                        clearly, the price of this game is faded toward jackson because of his no hitter, which of course got a lot of attention and therefore a lot of people just bet him blindly now.

                        But since his no hitter, jackson has been hit hard every time out and has an era of almost 6.75 since that game. I expect more of that tonight as i think this cubs lineup will get to jackson early and often.

                        I think the cubs also have the advantage looking at the lineups. With the exception of aramis ramirez, the cubs entire lineup is batting .270 or better. Not counting the pitcher of course. So while the cubs may not have a lot of big .350 hitters, they do bring a consistent lineup where any spot can kill you.

                        Even ramirez, who is only hitting .184 is a serious threat. We all know what he is capable of, and he was 2 for 4 with 4 rbi last night. Ramirez is certainly not a .184 hitter. So really, jackson will not have a break at any point going through teh cub lineup.

                        While the cubs dont have a true under .270 batter in the lineup, every diamondback in the lineup is hitting under .270 except montero. The dbacks just have no punch at all.

                        Young .265
                        johnson .268
                        upton .260
                        montero .377
                        reynolds .217
                        laroche .251
                        drew .265
                        parra .258


                        the cubs also used 2 relievers last night, while the dbacks had to use 5. So if this game goes to the bullpens close ( which it wont ) the cubs have more fresh relievers to turn to.

                        I just think this is a game to good to pass up. Without a doubt the cubs shouyld be a nice size favorite here. They have the better record, better pitcher, better batting, and more rested bullpen. Yet because jackson through that no hitter, his prices will be inflated for a while until bettors realize it was a fluke.

                        The cubs can be found for +100 in some places and thats a great deal on a team that should be a big favorite. Thats a really great price on a team that is a *** lock *** tonight.




                        Good luck on all plays

                        why the fuk did u use the "l" word

                        dont do that..its a jinx...save that for the service touts
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                        • rthoughton
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-27-09
                          • 1992

                          #13
                          everything lines up... except the fact that the cubs are in your bet. Never bet the Cubs for two reasons: They are the gayest team, no contest...annnd they suck ass. The Cubs are never a lock.
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                          • nobs
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                            • 08-31-09
                            • 4216

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Patrick McIrish
                            In fact if Jackson brings his A stuff of late


                            Last Start

                            5 innings pitched
                            4 runs given up
                            7 hits given up
                            4 walks allowed

                            7.20 ERA


                            A STUFF ?
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                            • nobs
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                              • 08-31-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by freddues

                              Ariz has bats, BIG BATS!
                              You must mean their are big bats in Arizona. That sucks, I hate those ******* things, they look like flying mice.
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                              • nobs
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                                • 08-31-09
                                • 4216

                                #16
                                Originally posted by rthoughton
                                everything lines up... except the fact that the cubs are in your bet. Never bet the Cubs for two reasons: They are the gayest team, no contest...annnd they suck ass. The Cubs are never a lock.

                                Nothing lines up. the only thing going for Dbacks is they are home. Who cares ?

                                Dempster has better ERA, More K's, Fewer walks, Less runs allowed, More innings pitched, higher average innings per start.

                                DBacks Bullpen Blows, Cubs Bullpen ERA much better.

                                EVERY batter in the Cubs Starting lineup has a higher BA than EVERY batter in the Dbacks starting lineup except Montero ( not counting pitchers ).

                                Line some places is Zona -110 Cubs +100

                                I dont see evrything lining up
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                                • freddues
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                                  • 02-29-08
                                  • 591

                                  #17
                                  NICE!
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                                  • nobs
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                                    • 08-31-09
                                    • 4216

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by goldengreek
                                    why the fuk did u use the "l" word

                                    dont do that..its a jinx...save that for the service touts
                                    So why dont you ** me $5000 for this play right now then it will be OK for me to say LOCK.
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                                    • nobs
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                                      • 08-31-09
                                      • 4216

                                      #19
                                      Why did my ** change to **
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                                      • nobs
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                                        • 08-31-09
                                        • 4216

                                        #20
                                        Wow if you type in West*ern Union it changes to **
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                                        • freddues
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                                          • 02-29-08
                                          • 591

                                          #21
                                          GL with those cubs.

                                          May they enjoy their dinner tonight---BATS!
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                                          • nobs
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                                            • 08-31-09
                                            • 4216

                                            #22
                                            Thanks man.

                                            Go CUBS
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                                            • nobs
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                                              • 08-31-09
                                              • 4216

                                              #23
                                              This is horse Shit. My team gets down by 1 run, its over. But In dont care how much my team is ahead by, the other team comes right back.

                                              Fking Horse SHIT
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                                              • nobs
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                                                • 08-31-09
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by WvGambler
                                                Gotta roll Cubs here, and the over. Edwin is still prone to walks, and we all know what that Dback bullpen can do. Dempster keeps it close and the cubs get 3-4 runs off the dback bullpen.

                                                Yeah and we should see that Dback bullpen soon. Jackson nearing 80 pitches through 4 innings. Some "A" game.
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                                                • nobs
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                                                  • 08-31-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Im done with this baseball bull shit
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                                                  • nobs
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                                                    • 08-31-09
                                                    • 4216

                                                    #26
                                                    Some "A" game Jackson has.

                                                    he has sucked tonight. Only down 5-3 but he could have easily given up 10 so far. keeps getting lucky that every time Cubs have bases loaded its Dempsters at bat.
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                                                    • nobs
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                                                      • 08-31-09
                                                      • 4216

                                                      #27
                                                      But he has to be done. 100 pitches, 7 hits, 5 runs, 4 walks, and only 5 innings pitched
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                                                      • nobs
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                                                        • 08-31-09
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Rixsaw
                                                        CUBS & DUMPSTER are never a lock. Thanks for the play, DBAG it is.


                                                        Hope you enjoyed fading me --- and LOSING.

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                                                        • chrisharvard01
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                                                          • 10-24-08
                                                          • 2943

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by chrisharvard01
                                                          DEMPSTER is unreliable. Both teams are horrible. Maybe the CUBS latest hitting efforts continue tonight but I don't trust them to win. ARZ with the worst pen in the majors, could allow 9 alone! OVER 9 (EV)





                                                          hey good job on the CHC ML nobs
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                                                          • thebayareabeast
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-22-10
                                                            • 1475

                                                            #30
                                                            Nice call NOBS

                                                            This was my only loss today out of 8 games, great pick man.
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                                                            • bozeman
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                                                              • 11-11-09
                                                              • 2162

                                                              #31
                                                              congrats nobs your preview are logical, I would better read you instead of plenty Covers scamdicappers
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                                                              • Glitch
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                                                                • 07-08-09
                                                                • 11795

                                                                #32
                                                                good call.
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                                                                • nobs
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                                                                  • 08-31-09
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by chrisharvard01




                                                                  hey good job on the CHC ML nobs

                                                                  Nice hit on the over 9 too. We both win.
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                                                                  • nobs
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                                                                    • 08-31-09
                                                                    • 4216

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                                                    Nice call NOBS

                                                                    This was my only loss today out of 8 games, great pick man.

                                                                    Thanks man, and nice day for you too. 7-1 is good anytime
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                                                                    • nobs
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                                                                      • 08-31-09
                                                                      • 4216

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Glitch
                                                                      good call.
                                                                      Originally posted by bozeman
                                                                      congrats nobs your preview are logical, I would better read you instead of plenty Covers scamdicappers
                                                                      Thanks you guys. I just got a little angry there. The Cubs went up 3-0 then I got a quick phone call. I come back 3 minutes later and its 3-3. I was like FUK that.
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