I'd play these totals if I still played totals

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Now your covering for dexter, too late cats outta the bag. I have nothing against you no coin and you were one of my favs but you take things too personal. Just calm down, blow in a paper bag and relax.

my friend

I just posted what he asked me, word for word.

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How is MLB "easier to beat," LB? If so, of all the top cappers on this site, why are there hardly any who are better at MLB than NBA or NFL?

I'm sorry, but I don't buy that at all.

[shoebox]

How is MLB "easier to beat," LB? If so, of all the top cappers on this site, why are there hardly any who are better at MLB than NBA or NFL?

I'm sorry, but I don't buy that at all.

MLB is statistical, NBA is more situational, and NFL is both, most cappers on this site are only capping games based on what espn or covers has to say.

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MLB is statistical, NBA is more situational, and NFL is both, most cappers on this site are only capping games based on what espn or covers has to say.

So when it comes to NBA or NFL, the cappers on this site don't do that, but with MLB, they do?



If you think MLB is only statistical and not situational as well, we're never going to get anywhere with this conversation.

[2daBank]

I'm not getting riled up -- it's all good.

Not sure why you had to throw me in with DIESEL, though as a "board drunk" -- how did you expect me to react to that?

yea id get a little bent out of shape if someone lumped me together with tha dies....

[lakerboy]

How is MLB "easier to beat," LB? If so, of all the top cappers on this site, why are there hardly any who are better at MLB than NBA or NFL?

I'm sorry, but I don't buy that at all.

You just have to pick the winner , no spreads. Most guys who get burried in bases play too many huge chalky ml plays. Dont forget with so many games on a daily basis its easier to find a spot to beat the oddsmakers. NFL has games on sunday only(except the monday )and linemakers have lots of time to focus on those games. Same with NBA , way less action.

[shoebox]

So when it comes to NBA or NFL, the cappers on this site don't do that, but with MLB, they do?



If you think MLB is only statistical and not situational as well, we're never going to get anywhere with this conversation.

And how many guys on this site actually put a jersey on and have an accurate record? Less than 3% the rest are to busy trying to make themselves famous online

[shari91]

Knew you couldn't resist throwing your two cents in on this. So shari says it and it's OK, but I say it and it's because I'm the "forum drunk." Wonder if LB would agree with you on the NBA vs. MLB, shoe? Or maybe we should take a look at your record -- which sport are you better at capping?

I don't count NoCoin because I'm the first to admit I know jack about capping MLB, especially this year because I've hardly looked at it at all. Tennis - I'm decent. MLB - I'm baaaaad. I just pop in and out at random and I'm lucky if I'll average 3 bets a week for the whole season. I still think the whole sport is screwy but I guess I would think that since I don't bother putting the effort in other than looking at pitchers and past stats once in awhile.

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You just have to pick the winner , no spreads. Most guys who get burried in bases play too many huge chalky ml plays. Dont forget with so many games on a daily basis its easier to find a spot to beat the oddsmakers. NFL has games on sunday only(except the monday )and linemakers have lots of time to focus on those games. Same with NBA , way less action.

But on the flip side, as I pointed out to shoe earlier, players tend to not give 100% to each game because there are so many. So you're not going to get maximum effort from an MLB team every time out -- far from it -- compared to, say, the NFL. I think it goes both ways -- oddsmakers don't have as much time to study and set a line, but it's also hard to know when you're going to get what I like to call "getaway day-ed" by an MLB team who knows it's a 162-game grind and they have to pick and choose their battles.

I also think the injury factor plays a huge role. There are injury reports for the NFL, but in MLB, I think players take the field with a lot more wear and tear than what's reported. That's why you tend to see fluke or flop years from certain guys -- a lot depends on how healthy they truly are, which isn't reported with as much accuracy and disclosure as other sports.

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And how many guys on this site actually put a jersey on and have an accurate record? Less than 3% the rest are to busy trying to make themselves famous online

I'm still trying to figure out how/why that's any different than the NFL or NBA season. I see more people able to maintain a higher level of week in and week out success in the NBA, for instance, than in MLB. Look at LB's record, SJ, you, paco, LC, etc., etc. on the NBA forum alone. There were others. So where are all the MLB standouts?

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I'm still trying to figure out how/why that's any different than the NFL or NBA season. I see more people able to maintain a higher level of week in and week out success in the NBA, for instance, than in MLB. Look at LB's record, SJ, you, LC, etc., etc. on the NBA forum alone. There were others. So where are all the MLB standouts?

NBA is situational your comparing apples and oranges. Pure stats doesnt work in the NBA thats why the transistion from that section is struggling. Im having a better 1h than in the NBA, so I dont understand the comment? Todays action no coin the best and classiest poster here the man is slaying books and goes about his business. An FYI im not one of the sharpest here at all, I just have gotten lucky on a few rolls

[MidgetTossers]

i'll tell u guys one thing i know for sure....none of it is easy in my honest opinion....

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NBA is situational your comparing apples and oranges. Pure stats doesnt work in the NBA thats why the transistion from that section is struggling. Im having a better 1h than in the NBA, so I dont understand the comment? Todays action no coin the best and classiest poster here the man is slaying books and goes about his business. An FYI im not one of the sharpest here at all, I just have gotten lucky on a few rolls

TA and paco are about the only two I can name. RT and LC do well, but not necessarily better than in other sports. "Pure stats" doesn't work solely in any sport -- baseball included. If it did, you would've cleaned up with the Brewers and SD/COL under yesterday (based on Wandy and Francis' numbers). Why is the NBA more "situational" and MLB more "statistical" than vice versa? Please explain. Again, I think it depends on the teams and players you're talking about -- and in MLB, it becomes even more situational based on weather (not an element to consider in NBA games).

[MidgetTossers]

and saying that i have the utmost respect for all of u guys....

[lakerboy]

But on the flip side, as I pointed out to shoe earlier, players tend to not give 100% to each game because there are so many. So you're not going to get maximum effort from an MLB team every time out -- far from it -- compared to, say, the NFL. I think it goes both ways -- oddsmakers don't have as much time to study and set a line, but it's also hard to know when you're going to get what I like to call "getaway day-ed" by an MLB team who knows it's a 162-game grind and they have to pick and choose their battles.

I also think the injury factor plays a huge role. There are injury reports for the NFL, but in MLB, I think players take the field with a lot more wear and tear than what's reported. That's why you tend to see fluke or flop years from certain guys -- a lot depends on how healthy they truly are, which isn't reported with as much accuracy and disclosure as other sports.

So you think NBA players dont mail it in?

What about NFL teams that are up big and let the other off the hook and allow the back door cover. You can make cases for both sides in every sport if you want. Have you been thru a whole NFL and NBA season playing (betting)?

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So you think NBA players dont mail it in?

What about NFL teams that are up big and let the other off the hook and allow the back door cover. You can make cases for both sides in every sport if you want. Have you been thru a whole NFL and NBA season playing (betting)?

NBA players are the worst
Or the texans blowing huge leads to the colts

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So you think NBA players dont mail it in?

What about NFL teams that are up big and let the other off the hook and allow the back door cover. You can make cases for both sides in every sport if you want. Have you been thru a whole NFL and NBA season playing (betting)?

NBA players do mail it in at times, but each game is more important to the end result of their season because there aren't as many (although at 82 games, there are definitely no-show examples). I'm not saying there aren't games like that in the NBA, backdoor covers in the NFL, etc., but in a 162-game season where games are dictated by situation and strategy (managers who eff up like Torre did last Sunday, bullpen flunkies who come in and blow a game, weather changes, etc.), the unusual results tend to pile up much quicker.

I'd ask you the same thing I asked shoe: if it's as simple as picking a winner, why aren't more people successful at it? Why doesn't the public bet baseball more than NFL and NBA? Why doesn't the public win more than in NFL or NBA? (which would support your bookie comment).

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NBA players are the worst
Or the texans blowing huge leads to the colts

You think NBA players are worse than some piece of shit who's asleep in the bullpen when he gets the call to come in and promptly cough up a lead?

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You think NBA players are worse than some piece of shit who's asleep in the bullpen when he gets the call to come in and promptly cough up a lead?

without a doubt, those that have played the game kniow they give it their all each and every night. Pitchers are not going to "give" in and battters are not just going to strike out on purpose cause their lazy. Wouldnt the association be worth watching if the entire league had the intensity of KG. Unless your goat milk of course and playing with Kobe dolls

[2daBank]

each game is far from important in the NBA NC, come on man sure there less games but everyone makes the playoffs, you telling me bos and la were playing regular season games like they really mattered?

[lakerboy]

NBA players do mail it in at times, but each game is more important to the end result of their season because there aren't as many (although at 82 games, there are definitely no-show examples). I'm not saying there aren't games like that in the NBA, backdoor covers in the NFL, etc., but in a 162-game season where games are dictated by situation and strategy (managers who eff up like Torre did last Sunday, bullpen flunkies who come in and blow a game, weather changes, etc.), the unusual results tend to pile up much quicker.

I'd ask you the same thing I asked shoe: if it's as simple as picking a winner, why aren't more people successful at it? Why doesn't the public bet baseball more than NFL and NBA? Why doesn't the public win more than in NFL or NBA? (which would support your bookie comment).

Are you kidding yourself? the public gets burried in the NBA and NFL. Look how many public plays in baseball when on a regular basis. Didnt the public just cash out on yanks rl and ml today? Thruout the NBA season the public loses on huge public plays way more than NFL and NBA. My bookie wants me to bet nfl and nba only cause he doenst have any work to do.


The public doesnt bet it more because its fukkin boring.

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without a doubt, those that have played the game kniow they give it their all each and every night. Pitchers are not going to "give" in and battters are not just going to strike out on purpose cause their lazy. Wouldnt the association be worth watching if the entire league had the intensity of KG. Unless your goat milk of course and playing with Kobe dolls

"Those that have played the game"? Did you? Because I did through college and had a few buddies get into the minor league system -- or were you just assuming I'm some fat geek loser who never picked up a ball in my life?

They give their all each and every night? Come on. I never said they do any of it on purpose to tank/throw games, necessarily, but you can sign a multi-million dollar contract guaranteed just for being a decent relief pitcher. All MLB salaries are guaranteed. These guys pick and choose their spots for maximum effort because, with 162 games in six months, they have to.

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Are you kidding yourself? the public gets burried in the NBA and NFL. Look how many public plays in baseball when on a regular basis. Didnt the public just cash out on yanks rl and ml today? Thruout the NBA season the public loses on huge public plays way more than NFL and NBA. My bookie wants me to bet nfl and nba only cause he doenst have any work to do.


The public doesnt bet it more because its fukkin boring.

How is taking the Yankees today any different than taking the Lakers ML against some crappy last-place team at -300?

If there is proof out there that Joe Square makes more money betting MLB than NFL or NBA, I'd like to see it. You assume the public isn't betting MLB because it's boring, but with nothing else to bet on, I'm saying they would be if they could regularly make $$$ doing it. Why would fantasy baseball be so popular, but betting on baseball not be?

Maybe I'm wrong.

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"Those that have played the game"? Did you? Because I did through college and had a few buddies get into the minor league system -- or were you just assuming I'm some fat geek loser who never picked up a ball in my life?


OMG I dont even know what to say, you act like im always coming at you. I also know some MLB players right now and I have talked to them about the long season.

They give their all each and every night? Come on. I never said they do any of it on purpose to tank/throw games, necessarily, but you can sign a multi-million dollar contract guaranteed just for being a decent relief pitcher. All MLB salaries are guaranteed. These guys pick and choose their spots for maximum effort because, with 162 games in six months, they have to.

no coin stop taking everything so personal

[lakerboy]

How is taking the Yankees today any different than taking the Lakers ML against some crappy last-place team at -300?

If there is proof out there that Joe Square makes more money betting MLB than NFL or NBA, I'd like to see it. You assume the public isn't betting MLB because it's boring, but with nothing else to bet on, I'm saying they would be if they could regularly make $$$ doing it. Why would Fantasy baseball be so popular, but betting on baseball not be?

Maybe I'm wrong.

Would you ever get LAkers ML at only -300 against the 76ers at home?

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Would you ever get LAkers ML at only -300 against the 76ers at home?

Wouldn't you?

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Would you ever get LAkers ML at only -300 against the 76ers at home?

I will also say this: there's a better chance that the Yankees get beat by the M's at home than the Lakers losing in a similar situation. Not to say that they both don't happen, but in MLB, if you win at a .590 clip you're the best team in baseball. In the NBA, that's more like .700-750.

[lakerboy]

I will also say this: there's a better chance that the Yankees get beat by the M's at home than the Lakers losing in a similar situation. Not to say that they both don't happen, but in MLB, if you win at a .590 clip you're the best team in baseball. In the NBA, that's more like .700-750.

you are making my point all by yourself. thats why bases is better to bet on. you cant take lakers because its gonna be -1000 at least and you know they wont lose so you cant take philly either. since the bases teams have more dogs winning why wouldnt you spot bet dogs with a higher chance of winning?

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you are making my point all by yourself. thats why bases is better to bet on. you cant take lakers because its gonna be -1000 at least and you know they wont lose so you cant take philly either. since the bases teams have more dogs winning why wouldnt you spot bet dogs with a higher chance of winning?

A Lakers-Sixers regular season ML (or a game to that effect) is -1000 at least?



Guess I don't pay enough attention to ML's.

[2daBank]

so you playing any totals NC? min und and tex ov for me, to go with tor und earlier

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so you playing any totals NC? min und and tex ov for me, to go with tor und earlier

I like the Minnesota under and am leaning Texas under, but not sure if I play either.

I haven't been on a total in a month, and it's been kind of nice.

May just go with Oakland and Philly. I'm up a little from the afternoon, so I don't want to get too far ahead of myself.

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I just saw the Philly line opened at +187 for PIT and is now down to +168 -- might just pass on that one as well.

[2daBank]

I just saw the Philly line opened at +187 for PIT and is now down to +168 -- might just pass on that one as well.

yea i considered pit last night but decided just to pass, i see diesel is on phi so maybe i should have pulled the trigger...all my plays are in the thread you started asking bout stl.......gl tonight

[2daBank]

mlb tonight guy just compared target field to Safco, that makes me feel good about the under i guess

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mlb tonight guy just compared target field to Safco, that makes me feel good about the under i guess

You too, buddy -- I like your plays.