1. #106
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    JM disciple you have a gambling problem. Start your own system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine11 View Post
    JM disciple you have a gambling problem. Start your own system.
    Thanks for the contribution to the thread very helpful! Thing is for people who can read, you can see I am not trying to change the system! Just the money management of it, for less risk of ruin.

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    Was a SD loss yesterday??

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    UPDATED for 05/01/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 34-5; Profit: 14.75 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 42-11; Profit: 77.94 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 20-19; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 12-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    (A)
    35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-71.40
    (B) 33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
    (C) 27.14-
    27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14

    REGULAR FOR 05/01/2021

    (B) San Diego -172 to win 3.36U

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  5. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    I thought my post would get a response. The bet sizes seem very reasonable with busting bankroll, but the biggest swing is still going to be 50 units due to the bad stretch the system had. I think on average the bet size is smaller. Would just run one line for regular system and one line for filtered system. Let me know if you have any questions of how I managed it.
    Sorry my friend, just didn't had the time to look at your posts. Will look on monday. Thanks for your feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by MexMamba View Post
    Was a SD loss yesterday??
    Yes, they were -192 so on RL Thanks

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    UPDATED for 05/02/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 36-5; Profit: 11.39 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 44-11; Profit: 74.58 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 21-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    (A)
    35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-71.40
    (B) 33.54-33.54-33.54
    (C) 27.14-
    27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14

    REGULAR FOR 05/02/2021

    No Play

    Filtered

    No Play

    5/2

    No Play

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    UPDATED for 05/03/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 36-5; Profit: 11.39 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 44-11; Profit: 74.58 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 21-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    (A)
    35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66
    (B) 34.09-
    34.09-34.09-34.09
    (C) 27.14-
    27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14

    REGULAR FOR 05/03/2021

    (A) Minnesota -174 to win 3.57U
    (A) San Diego -178 to win 3.57U

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    5/2

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    A 392.26 35.66 x 11
    B 136.36 34.09 x 4
    C 298.54 27.14 x 11


    Labby has $827.16 or 41.36 units on the lines to make up over 26 #s.
    Why not avg out the lines?

    A) 31.81 x 8
    B) 31.81 x 9
    C) 31.81 x 9

    System will eventually prevail given enough units as a bankroll and a small heater. Some times a really bad month just need one good week to come out ahead.

    admire the dedication to keep posting on a bad run. I think the previous years definitely help with the experience of handling the swings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    A 392.26 35.66 x 11
    B 136.36 34.09 x 4
    C 298.54 27.14 x 11

    Labby has $827.16 or 41.36 units on the lines to make up over 26 #s.
    Why not avg out the lines?

    A) 31.81 x 8
    B) 31.81 x 9
    C) 31.81 x 9

    System will eventually prevail given enough units as a bankroll and a small heater. Some times a really bad month just need one good week to come out ahead.

    admire the dedication to keep posting on a bad run. I think the previous years definitely help with the experience of handling the swings.
    That looks good, will do this. Thanks

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    UPDATED for 05/04/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 38-5; Profit: 4.25 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 46-11; Profit: 67.44 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 23-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    (A)
    31.12 X 7
    (B) 31.12 X 4

    (C) 31.12 X 11

    REGULAR FOR 05/04/2021

    (A) Boston -178 to win 3.12U

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    5/2

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  12. #117
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    Likes new format! Thanks!!!

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    UPDATED for 05/06/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 39-5; Profit: 1.13 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 47-11; Profit: 64.32 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 24-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    (A)
    31.12 X 5
    (B) 31.12 X 4

    (C) 31.12 X 11

    REGULAR FOR 05/06/2021

    No Play

    Filtered

    No Play

    5/2

    No Play
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  14. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcmister View Post
    Likes new format! Thanks!!!
    Thanks to JM Disciple
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    UPDATED for 05/07/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 39-5; Profit: 1.13 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 47-11; Profit: 64.32 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 24-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    (A)
    31.12 X 5
    (B) 31.12 X 4

    (C) 31.12 X 11

    REGULAR FOR 05/07/2021

    (A) Atlanta -147 to win 3.12U

    (A) Chicago Cubs -145 to win 3.12U
    (A) NY Yankees -168 to win 3.12U
    (A) St Louis RL -102 to win 3.12U

    watching CLE, HOU and MIA, if they go over -145, they become a play wo tin 3.12U

    Filtered

    watching HOU, if they go over -145, they become a play wo tin 3.12U

    5/2

    No Play
    Last edited by grecycle99; 05-07-21 at 01:22 PM.
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  16. #121
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    I think regular system is in the black now. Idk if ATL qualified yesterday. What link are using to check pin's closing lines? 2-1 if ATL didn't qualify?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    I think regular system is in the black now. Idk if ATL qualified yesterday. What link are using to check pin's closing lines? 2-1 if ATL didn't qualify?
    Atlanta didn't qualify, closed at -140! I use Pinnacle to determine the lines!

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    UPDATED for 05/08/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 39-5; Profit: 1.13 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 47-11; Profit: 64.32 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 24-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    35.43 X 17
    REGULAR FOR 05/08/2021

    (B) NY Yankees -113 to win 3.55U

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    5/2

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  19. #124
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    How come regular system stayed at 1.13 units? Thought the system would be in the black after a 2-1 day.

  20. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    How come regular system stayed at 1.13 units? Thought the system would be in the black after a 2-1 day.
    It's just that the unit wasn't updated. But wasn't in the black either, was -1.13 + 3.12 + 3.12 - 5.24 (1.68*3.12) = -0.13U

  21. #126
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    UPDATED for 05/09/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 42-5; Profit: 3.42 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 50-11; Profit: 59.77 units (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 24-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    35.43 X 15

    REGULAR FOR 05/09/2021

    No Play

    Filtered

    No Play

    5/2

    No Play
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    UPDATED for 05/10/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 42-5; Profit: 3.42 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 50-11; Profit: 59.77 units (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 24-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    35.43 X 15

    REGULAR FOR 05/10/2021

    G1 - Houston -158 to win 3.55U

    Filtered

    G1 - Houston -158 to win 3.55U

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  23. #128
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    UPDATED for 05/11/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 42-5; Profit: 3.42 units
    Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
    5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 50-11; Profit: 59.77 units (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 24-20; 6-4; 1-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 13-7; 1-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    45.97 X 17

    REGULAR FOR 05/11/2021

    G2 - Houston -153 to win 4.6U

    Filtered

    G2 - Houston -153 to win 4.6U

    5/2

    G1 - Houston -153 to win 5U
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  24. #129
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    Not sure I would do 45 x 17. Line will get very big unless you hit a hot streak and win 8-9 games in a row. The bet size will never get smaller unless you clear entire line. Also when you go 4-0 and clear 8#s. The next day if you go 0-3 becomes almost a martingale.

    What I would do is bucket part of the line to recover later. Similar to how you add 3 lines before. Would keep them at 3 lines or even 4 lines and just try and clear part of the line at a time.

    Lets say you do two lines. Work on clearing the 45 x 4 first so on a bad run then a sweep line gets cleared, then you have a sense of accomplishment when you go back to a smaller size.
    A) 45 x4
    B) 45 x 13

    For example if bets are to win 90 and you go 0-2 as example use -150 juice

    A) 45 -45 -45 -45 - 135 - 135
    B) 45 x 13

    New lines:
    A) 75 x 6
    B) 45 x 13

    Now next day go 3-0 and clear line A. Bring another 4#s up from line B or however many games you have. If you have one game bring 2#s up, 3 games bring 6 #s up etc. Where your bet size before was 150, now your back to 90.

    The way this is going with one line, even on a winning day you will have increased bet size the next day if it's not a sweep. Leads to wrecking the boat. For example if you go 3-1 on your current 45 x 17 line with all games -150. What is the bet size the next day? (52.5 x 12). Don't think bets should increase on a winning day. Trying to help you not back yourself into a corner.

    Best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    Not sure I would do 45 x 17. Line will get very big unless you hit a hot streak and win 8-9 games in a row. The bet size will never get smaller unless you clear entire line. Also when you go 4-0 and clear 8#s. The next day if you go 0-3 becomes almost a martingale.

    What I would do is bucket part of the line to recover later. Similar to how you add 3 lines before. Would keep them at 3 lines or even 4 lines and just try and clear part of the line at a time.

    Lets say you do two lines. Work on clearing the 45 x 4 first so on a bad run then a sweep line gets cleared, then you have a sense of accomplishment when you go back to a smaller size.
    A) 45 x4
    B) 45 x 13

    For example if bets are to win 90 and you go 0-2 as example use -150 juice

    A) 45 -45 -45 -45 - 135 - 135
    B) 45 x 13

    New lines:
    A) 75 x 6
    B) 45 x 13

    Now next day go 3-0 and clear line A. Bring another 4#s up from line B or however many games you have. If you have one game bring 2#s up, 3 games bring 6 #s up etc. Where your bet size before was 150, now your back to 90.

    The way this is going with one line, even on a winning day you will have increased bet size the next day if it's not a sweep. Leads to wrecking the boat. For example if you go 3-1 on your current 45 x 17 line with all games -150. What is the bet size the next day? (52.5 x 12). Don't think bets should increase on a winning day. Trying to help you not back yourself into a corner.

    Best of luck
    Thanks will try that. I was wondering how to handle this thing.

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    UPDATED for 05/12/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 43-5; Profit: 1.77 units
    Filtered System: 8-3; Profit: 8.63 units
    5/2 chase: 2-3; profit: 51.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 53-11; Profit: 58.07 units (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 26-22; 6-5; 2-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 15-7; 2-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    45.97 X 13

    REGULAR FOR 05/12/2021

    No Play

    Filtered

    No Play

    5/2

    No Play
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  27. #132
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    Quote Originally Posted by grecycle99 View Post
    Thanks will try that. I was wondering how to handle this thing.
    The other way of going about this is running 30 labby lines, one for each team. Can start with $10-$10 each time and when their chase series comes up, just manage the labby as you have always done. This is something I want to test for betting every game and every team. Dogs take +1.5 RL and favorites take ML. but do one line for each team and I think I would do probably a 10 unit max bet as a "stop loss" for the labby line before resetting it. More likely just move #s around though. For back testing reasons I think the 10 unit max bet makes a lot of sense though.

    Don't want to get too off topic from system your running in the thread, but let me know your thoughts on this. If you check +1.5 RL historically hitting like 55-66% based on some data I saw. Where the -1.5 RL actually lose more money if you were to flat bet compared to betting ML flat betting. So I know for sure ML for favorites and RL for dogs are the best bets, just need to test a 30 line labby with it.

    I did test this for other sports like NBA and NFL where I bet either all favorites or all dogs, since it's roughly 50/50 on the spread long run. Usually have 1-2 good seasons and then a very brutal season that is just not possible to win at. I think getting that 55%+ win rate for ML / RL is the key to a successful sports labby long term though. When I finish testing it, I'll share my results. Best site to back test odds on? I usually use covers . com for nba / nfl testing but not sure how good it is for MLB. On3's system was back tested on scoresandodds . com right?

    Thanks for any feed back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    The other way of going about this is running 30 labby lines, one for each team. Can start with $10-$10 each time and when their chase series comes up, just manage the labby as you have always done. This is something I want to test for betting every game and every team. Dogs take +1.5 RL and favorites take ML. but do one line for each team and I think I would do probably a 10 unit max bet as a "stop loss" for the labby line before resetting it. More likely just move #s around though. For back testing reasons I think the 10 unit max bet makes a lot of sense though.

    Don't want to get too off topic from system your running in the thread, but let me know your thoughts on this. If you check +1.5 RL historically hitting like 55-66% based on some data I saw. Where the -1.5 RL actually lose more money if you were to flat bet compared to betting ML flat betting. So I know for sure ML for favorites and RL for dogs are the best bets, just need to test a 30 line labby with it.

    I did test this for other sports like NBA and NFL where I bet either all favorites or all dogs, since it's roughly 50/50 on the spread long run. Usually have 1-2 good seasons and then a very brutal season that is just not possible to win at. I think getting that 55%+ win rate for ML / RL is the key to a successful sports labby long term though. When I finish testing it, I'll share my results. Best site to back test odds on? I usually use covers . com for nba / nfl testing but not sure how good it is for MLB. On3's system was back tested on scoresandodds . com right?

    Thanks for any feed back.
    On this system, a 30 labby wouldn't work because some of the teams would not be able to be a -145 home fav all season but if you play only fav or dogs would work well. But as you say, a bad season would kill the system but it's the way in all systems. For all the other systems that I posts, I use ML on fav and RL on dogs and it works really well. I'm interested in seeing your backtesting results on this.

    I like better pinnacle than scoresandodds for backtesting. I don't know where on3 backtested his system.

    Thanks
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    UPDATED for 05/13/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 43-5; Profit: 1.77 units
    Filtered System: 8-3; Profit: 8.63 units
    5/2 chase: 2-3; profit: 51.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 53-11; Profit: 58.07 units (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 26-22; 6-5; 2-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 15-7; 2-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    L1 - 45.97 X 4
    L2 - 45.97 X 9

    REGULAR FOR 05/12/2021

    G1 - Houston RL -101 to win 4.6U

    Filtered

    G1 - Houston RL -101 to win 4.6U

    5/2

    No Play
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    First two teams I tested using scoresandodds were LAD and CIN. Using a 10 unit max bet (to win) so upwards of 20+ units at risk on some of the heavy juice plays (-235) both teams showed a loss this year for a pretty staggering amount. Cinci had a bad stretch of just 8 wins and 12 losses (40%) and still managed to reach max bet with traditional labby method. I am not sure if any single line labby would win long run other wise we could use it in Roulette or other table games with even odds that hit 48%.

    I'm still shocked how this system system showed so much profit last 3 seasons or so. I've been through all the seasons looking for tips to improve my own methods. One hell of a job managing those labby lines!

    I will say something I pointed out in this thread earlier, where I questioned

    "why do you add 10-10-10-10 to the already heavy line of 35-35-35-35 whenever you have 4 games."
    It's not an exact quote but I'm sure you remember me questioning it. I will admit I was wrong on this and it actually is best to add $ to the line as a "place holder" rather than just keep splitting the line. What happens is if you split $35 x 4 into $17.50 x 8 you need a full sweep of 4-0 to clear the line. Sounds obvious but when you split the line so many times to reduce the wager amount what ends up happening is you never reach peak profit unless you get a sweep. By adding those extra 2 units to the line (10 x 4) I think eventually you can reach peak profit without fully clearing the line. I don't want to get too in-depth into because it would take a lot to write out. I just wanted to chime in and say my previous question was incorrect and you were doing it right even though wagers got pretty big.

    Currently going to start with April 1st and test all +1.5 RL games, so bet every game RL with the labby and manage it over one line how you were doing previously. Going to test it using $10 unit size though. Whenever I reach peak profit will reset the line. I suggest you do something similar to this. It might not maximize your profits and recover 100% of your losses, but it will help with wagers from getting too big. Even if I go 7-4 with the high juice and make small profit, I will start fresh line the next day.

    Will keep you updated on the progress.

    Do you mind sharing the links to the other systems you run? Chase110 and Wallco's gold are the two or do you have others?


    Thank you
    AB

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    I only tested April 1st - 20th so far as there is a lot of data to go through for 248 games. I used single line labby with cross two for each win and add one for each loss to the line. Because I am betting every game some of the lines look like $5 x 30, so when you win 10 games and lose 5 there are only 15 numbers left on the line ( $$ x 15) then the next day say there are 10 games on the schedule, well, I am 5 numbers short, so I add $25 to the line to make it ($$ x 20) [5 for each # added to the line]. Very similar to how you are running this system but I am just using one line and resetting the line if I'm at peak profit. First 2 weeks or so was very shaky before a couple of good days to bounce the system back on track. Will link a screen shot to what the graph looks like currently so you can see the variance.

    Biggest bet was $143.91 to win $73.80 (-195).
    Record: 150 - 98. (60.4%)
    Profit: 41.7 units ($417)

    so does look promising long run, but I think any of these systems need a strong stomach for variance when dealing with the labby. Only testing underdogs at the moment. I'm sure favorites would work in a similar fashion. Would be curious to see what percentage favorites win at compared to +1.5 RL percentage being around 60% this season.

    Done testing for the night. Just wanted to share that little bit. Before I dive into these deep waters with actual money.

    https://gyazo.com/ff6b6aaa4e0441135e6758966c9f5df7

    edit: Finished testing this season for all games +1.5 RL. Just took a small bad run at the end with high juice to destroy the system.

    wish you all the best. Hard to get out of this hole without having some massive bets down the road. Going to jump ship for now and just lurk until I discover something new.

    https://gyazo.com/7845b4d20bf0b3f43d57eb1be982db33
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    UPDATED for 05/14/2021

    System(s) record Chase :

    Regular system: 43-5; Profit: 1.77 units
    Filtered System: 8-3; Profit: 8.63 units
    5/2 chase: 2-3; profit: 51.21 units

    Total (3 systems) : 53-11; Profit: 58.07 units (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

    Game 1 (A) win = 26-22; 6-5; 2-3
    Game 2 (B) win = 15-7; 2-3; 0-3
    Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

    Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

    L1 - 61.62 X 6
    L2 - 45.97 X 9

    REGULAR FOR 05/14/2021

    G1 - White Sox -181 to win 4.6U
    G1 - LA Dodgers RL -104 to win 4.6U
    G1 - San Diego -175 to win 4.6U
    G1 - Tampa Bay -151 to win 4.6U
    G2 - Houston RL -114 to win 6.17U

    Filtered

    G2 - Houston RL -114 to win 6.17U

    5/2

    G1 - Houston RL -114 to win 5U
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    Well done

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    Well done indeed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.M. Disciple View Post
    First two teams I tested using scoresandodds were LAD and CIN. Using a 10 unit max bet (to win) so upwards of 20+ units at risk on some of the heavy juice plays (-235) both teams showed a loss this year for a pretty staggering amount. Cinci had a bad stretch of just 8 wins and 12 losses (40%) and still managed to reach max bet with traditional labby method. I am not sure if any single line labby would win long run other wise we could use it in Roulette or other table games with even odds that hit 48%.

    I'm still shocked how this system system showed so much profit last 3 seasons or so. I've been through all the seasons looking for tips to improve my own methods. One hell of a job managing those labby lines!

    I will say something I pointed out in this thread earlier, where I questioned



    It's not an exact quote but I'm sure you remember me questioning it. I will admit I was wrong on this and it actually is best to add $ to the line as a "place holder" rather than just keep splitting the line. What happens is if you split $35 x 4 into $17.50 x 8 you need a full sweep of 4-0 to clear the line. Sounds obvious but when you split the line so many times to reduce the wager amount what ends up happening is you never reach peak profit unless you get a sweep. By adding those extra 2 units to the line (10 x 4) I think eventually you can reach peak profit without fully clearing the line. I don't want to get too in-depth into because it would take a lot to write out. I just wanted to chime in and say my previous question was incorrect and you were doing it right even though wagers got pretty big.

    Currently going to start with April 1st and test all +1.5 RL games, so bet every game RL with the labby and manage it over one line how you were doing previously. Going to test it using $10 unit size though. Whenever I reach peak profit will reset the line. I suggest you do something similar to this. It might not maximize your profits and recover 100% of your losses, but it will help with wagers from getting too big. Even if I go 7-4 with the high juice and make small profit, I will start fresh line the next day.

    Will keep you updated on the progress.

    Do you mind sharing the links to the other systems you run? Chase110 and Wallco's gold are the two or do you have others?


    Thank you
    AB
    Here's the link for Cisco systems that I post
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=845622098



    I don't run the chase110 and wallcos, but the JM plays for hockey, baseball, football and basketball



    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...2021-a-p4.html



    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...2021-a-p7.html



    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/for...2021-a-p2.html
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