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  • philswin
    SBR MVP
    • 04-18-07
    • 1279

    #1
    Ryan Howard
    Signs 5 year $125 million extension - I think he is worth it pretty consistant power hitter
  • Jiggy Fly
    SBR MVP
    • 05-02-08
    • 1256

    #2
    Awesome!!! Now we need to lock up Werth!!
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    • JVP3122
      SBR MVP
      • 05-02-09
      • 1048

      #3
      Originally posted by philswin
      Signs 5 year $125 million extension - I think he is worth it pretty consistant power hitter
      He just needs to be able to hit a curve ball and he'll be a complete hitter.
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      • Jiggy Fly
        SBR MVP
        • 05-02-08
        • 1256

        #4
        Originally posted by philswin
        Signs 5 year $125 million extension - I think he is worth it pretty consistant power hitter
        You got a source dude? I can't find this anywhere.
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        • AnotherLoan
          SBR MVP
          • 07-21-08
          • 2225

          #5
          Originally posted by Jiggy Fly
          You got a source dude? I can't find this anywhere.
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          • philswin
            SBR MVP
            • 04-18-07
            • 1279

            #6
            CSNPhilly.com
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            • AnotherLoan
              SBR MVP
              • 07-21-08
              • 2225

              #7
              Howard must have a good agent because he's not worth that much.
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              • philswin
                SBR MVP
                • 04-18-07
                • 1279

                #8
                Do not hold your breath waiting for them to sign Werth. Think they have Dominic Brown penciled into RF next year
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                • philswin
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-18-07
                  • 1279

                  #9
                  If he would have gone the Free Agent route he would have got more than 25 mil perseason - Averages 50 HR 140 RBI per year.
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                  • Jiggy Fly
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-02-08
                    • 1256

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AnotherLoan
                    Howard must have a good agent because he's not worth that much.
                    He's only been the best power hitter in the game the last 4 years!!!

                    Originally posted by philswin
                    Do not hold your breath waiting for them to sign Werth. Think they have Dominic Brown penciled into RF next year
                    I would trade Ibanez and let Brown play LF. I believe he can play both.
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                    • philswin
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-18-07
                      • 1279

                      #11
                      I would like to see them do that but unless Ibanez picks it up there will be no market for a 39 year old player making 12 mil. Do not think they are going to sign Werth (or they would have by now) they say they need to stay within 140 mil budget.
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                      • MJFtheGenius
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 05-31-07
                        • 7257

                        #12
                        Howard a tad overrated

                        not a strong fielder by any means

                        can not hit when it matters

                        warm weather hitter
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                        • philswin
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-18-07
                          • 1279

                          #13
                          He strikes out a lot. His fielding was much improved last year. He starts off slow but get hot at the end of the year when it matters. Pujols should use this contract as a starting point, he might get 27 - 29 million.
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                          • cadillac pete
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-15-06
                            • 1675

                            #14
                            I can't wait to see what Albert gets. He certainly has earned it.
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                            • LLXC
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-10-06
                              • 8972

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jiggy Fly
                              I would trade Ibanez and let Brown play LF. I believe he can play both.
                              Nobody wants Ibanez and his contract.

                              Werth will be overpaid somewhere else for hitting in a friendly ballpark.
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                              • gryfyn1
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-30-10
                                • 3285

                                #16
                                this is a ridiculously awful contract. There is no way that Howard should be signed to that level of a deal for that long - there are far to many risks involved --

                                Easily the worst signing since the Zito deal.
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                                • doylfish
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-03-10
                                  • 2484

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by philswin
                                  If he would have gone the Free Agent route he would have got more than 25 mil perseason - Averages 50 HR 140 RBI per year.
                                  he's also 30 going on 31 by the end of the season, he 'might' be worth the money now, doubt it though cause he's not really a complete player with the glove at first base like a teixeira with similar dollars and his gold gloves. he definitely won't be worth that money by the end though. big power hitters have proven it time and time again, and i'm a red sox fan and have experienced it firsthand with mo vaugh and god bless him, but david ortiz's collapse has been awful in the past couple years and he's 34 right now. Howard will be turning 31 the day after Ortiz turns 35, so at the end of this deal when Howard turns 36 and is making $25 million talk about the contract then because i can guarantee it will not look good at all
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                                  • philswin
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-18-07
                                    • 1279

                                    #18
                                    Howard is not a fat lazy guy jacked up on steriods like the other 2
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Hopefully his numbers will not slip too much

                                      He is a high risk at that rice because he strikes out a lot
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                                      • TJHotpicks
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-05-09
                                        • 575

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by philswin
                                        Signs 5 year $125 million extension - I think he is worth it pretty consistant power hitter

                                        Just means Big Albert in St. Louis is gonna get about 30 million per year!!!
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                                        • philswin
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-18-07
                                          • 1279

                                          #21
                                          Prince Fielder may get a similiar deal to Howard he is a Free Agent after this year - There are only a handful of players in MLB that can hit 45+ homers a year
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                                          • BeatTheJerk
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-19-07
                                            • 31794

                                            #22
                                            Nose job candidate with new found funds. The width of his nose is longer than JJ Golds cock.
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                                            • doylfish
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-03-10
                                              • 2484

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by philswin
                                              Howard is not a fat lazy guy jacked up on steriods like the other 2
                                              if mo vaughn was on steroids there would have been even better numbers for him, and howard at one point was very much so fat, so much so that he had to go on a ridiculous weight training program to lose the weight or else he wouldn't have gotten to this point to get this kind of contract

                                              hence now that he has the dollars, he might not be as motivated anymore, and even if he doesn't get fat again, he still strikes out a TON and will lose bat speed as he ages meaning his average will drop even more and he'll strike out even more just like every other aging hitter steroids or not

                                              and regardless if there is no positive test yet for howard, doesn't mean he's still not doing it, same with pujols, because of the steroid era everyone has to be suspected now whether it's fair or not and until the baseball union allows hgh testing and an accurate enough test is made then who knows how many guys are using that right now

                                              here's a sample from an article last year
                                              "Howard was getting fat. Not just a wee plump, either. Between the long 2008 season and the celebrations for Philadelphia’s championship, Howard was carrying around 275 pounds on his 6-foot-4 frame. He knew the history of fat hitters, too. Mo Vaughn and Cecil Fielder and countless others faded in their early 30s, waistlines expanding and hitting zones contracting. Howard turns 30 in November. He refused to peter out like the others. So Ryan Howard, the one legitimate threat to the single-season home run record, the man who hit 200 faster than anyone in history, did something drastic.

                                              And it might just save his career."


                                              i love ryan howard, drafted him on my Fantasy team, i don't want to see him decline either, just like i didn't want to see ortiz go down, but i'm stating facts, and it happens

                                              steroids aren't all that, arod is presumably not on them anymore and his numbers are still just as good as ever at the end of the year, maybe a couple less homers, but overall, not that big of a deal, steroids or not it still won't help you from striking out
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                                              • philswin
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-18-07
                                                • 1279

                                                #24
                                                Ortiz was a platoon player got on the roids and became a feared hitter after he is off the roids is a platoon player again. Arod 35 HR and 100 RBIS still a great player but not what he once was. You are blind if you dont think steroids affected baseball in a major way. HGH may be the only thing out there now but does not have the same affect as the multi-steroid cocktails taken by the Bonds, McGwire and the rest. Howard is in great shape the last 2 years. he may tail off the final year or 2 but that is the price you pay if you want to contend for championships. If Howard would go to Free Agency he would have made more.
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                                                • philswin
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-18-07
                                                  • 1279

                                                  #25
                                                  It was revealed on December 13, 2007 in the report by Senator George J. Mitchell that Vaughn had purchased steroids or other performance-enhancing drugs from Kirk Radomski, who said he delivered the drugs to him personally. Radomski produced three checks, one for $2,200 and two more for $3,200, from Vaughn, one of the latter dated 6-1-2001, and another dated 6-19-2001. Radomski said that the higher checks were for two kits of HGH, while the lower one was for one and a half kits.
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                                                  • tblues2005
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 07-30-06
                                                    • 9235

                                                    #26
                                                    That is a big contract no doubt!!
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                                                    • Brocc
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-25-09
                                                      • 1660

                                                      #27
                                                      Ryan's a beast & he won't get lazy. These guys are hungry!
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                                                      • whatsgood5
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 10-13-09
                                                        • 15359

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by philswin
                                                        If he would have gone the Free Agent route he would have got more than 25 mil perseason - Averages 50 HR 140 RBI per year.
                                                        Let's not forget 1000's of K's per season.

                                                        I won't lie though, he's a helluva player and I'm not looking forward to seeing him in the same division for the next 6+ years.
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                                                        • doylfish
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-03-10
                                                          • 2484

                                                          #29
                                                          bottom line, howard is not worth the 2nd highest dollars per annual average in the league. there's no way you can argue that he is. not now, and definitely not when he's 34/35/36. i don't really care about this year or the next year, i'm saying the contract as a whole is a terrible amount of money for how his career will likely go. in 750 games he has 892 strikeouts, albert pujols has twice as many games almost at 1417 with 1/3 less strikeouts at 584..none of the regarded big sluggers in this league have an average of more than 1 strikeout per game; a-rod, braun, fielder, teixeira, adrian gonzalez, and historically ones that do have the quickest declining careers
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                                                          • Zou_fan
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 08-17-09
                                                            • 246

                                                            #30
                                                            I agree with fish that Howard should not command the second highest salary in baseball. Does this contract serve as further proof that the market is beginning to rebound?
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                                                            • philswin
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-18-07
                                                              • 1279

                                                              #31
                                                              Baseball is about scoring runs and you need a big run producer in the middle of the lineup, when they start deducting runs for strikeouts you might have a point. 50 bombs 140 RBIS in the drug testing era is not something that many players not named Pujols or Howard can accomplish. The Red Sox will not be serious contenders again until they get that middle of the lineup run producer. When they unload 1/2 their minor league system and back up the brinks truck for Adrian Gonzalez you will see that, and he averages about 35 Hrs and 100 RBIS and he is considered a star.
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                                                              • mitote
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-29-10
                                                                • 588

                                                                #32
                                                                Now he can get fat again!
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                                                                • FrozenMAN
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-23-09
                                                                  • 4334

                                                                  #33
                                                                  you are all NUTS...NO WAY IS HE WORTH 25 mill a year...TOTAL JOKE!

                                                                  $125 to howard, $112 to holliday then big poo-daddy better get $200 million for 6 years
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                                                                  • Andy117
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-07-10
                                                                    • 9511

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I don't think Howard is gonna age well. They won't like the end years of this contract.
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                                                                    • in2thethickofit
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-26-09
                                                                      • 2622

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Andy117
                                                                      I don't think Howard is gonna age well. They won't like the end years of this contract.
                                                                      I agree, "ouch, those splinters hurt"!
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