One of the worst pitchers in MLB. As out of shape as ever. Pound reds -130 today boys.
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Miraculously, after allowing a leadoff triple and a run, he fails to allow another run. However, Silva's suckiness rubs off on the pen, as Cincy hits a grand slam to win 5-4.
So, all plays are to win 1 unit: Cubs are 0-1 so far in Silva's starts, for +1 unit. Gonna get great juice next start out fading the fat man.Comment -
Good luck, hope it works out for you.Comment -
I agree, no way this guy has under a 5.00 (and probably not under 6.00) era unless his sinker has miraclously returned after like a 5-6 year absence. When he pitched for the twins, he was the most worthless motherfukker alive. His first year with the twins he was solid and ever since then...........Steep, steep decline. I'll probably join you in fading him, honestly I'm shocked he is still in a major league starting rotation.
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Okay, he won today. NOW IS THE TIME TO FADE. There will be great odds against. Silva last year:
First four starts, 2008: 3-0, 2.79.
Final 24 starts: 1-15, 7.20.Comment -
he looks real good so far this year, Fade FREDDY GARCIAComment -
Fading them both Brockie. Thank me later.Comment -
I rather fade certain teams over certain pitchers.Comment -
Dude, Silva has changed things and is a different pitcher this year. You may be on the wrong side of this here.Comment -
I watched that SOB for two years in seattle. Trust me he's not changed.Comment -
You guys still think he's on the of the worst pitchers in MLB? 3 great starts and he now leads MLB in WHIP (0.63) by a pretty wide margin.Comment -
Silva's 5-0 and the Cubs are 7-1 when Silva starts (won last 7); 11-21 when he doesn't. Silva and Lincecum are the only unbeaten NL starters with at least 5 wins. Maybe not such a good fade after all?Comment -
I still believe he regresses quite a bit. Can't say I've faded him much, as he has had alot of favorable matchups. We shall see.Comment -
Come on man. When you're wrong, you're wrong. Look back at your first few posts. Saying now that you haven't faded him much rings hollow. I'm sure he regresses, and he's not going win another 8 in a row, but he's gone from being "one the worst pitchers in MLB" to being well on the radar for the AS Game and probably the frontrunner for comeback player of the year. Obviously he's not one of the worst pitchers in MLB.Comment -
I'll be fading him from here on out.... guy has been very fortunate so far this season, he won't keep it up...
same for Livan HernandezComment -
Livan Hernandez is going to be great fade material as the season goes on, especially once the Nationals hit the basement and probably finish 35 games outta first place. God bless all the people who look at ERA and nothing else when making a bet, that should ensure some good lines against Livan
ERA this year of 1.62 but his FIP is 5.04 .. as lucky as lucky can be I guess.Comment -
Livan's Babip is a ridiculous .193 alsoComment -
what is FIP?Comment -
Silva 6-0 and possible Comeback Player of the Year material!Comment -
He will be back to his old self in no time at allComment -
FIP=fielding independent pitching
it is an attempt to project what a pitcher's era is without taking good or bad fielding into account... so it isolates the things that a pitcher is specifically responsisble for..... ie walks, hit by pitches, strike outs, homeruns.
Livan has one of the highest (worst) FIP's and the lowest (sorta bad) Babips (batting avg of balls hit in play) meaning he has been very lucky and the beneficiary of a lot of good fielding in all likelyhood.
all this to say that Livan puts too many aboard easily (walks,hbp's) and gives up too many homers, doesn't strike too many guys out.
most pitchers give up a babip of around .300 over time regardless of how good or bad they are. regression to the mean on this stat is pretty much garunteed...Comment -
good gosh, if Silva and Livan both make the All Star team, that will be pretty ridiculousComment -
Not the same Silva who pitched for the Twins and Seattle, this guy went 4-15 with Seattle in 08' 6.46 era..Comment -
Thanks for the info on FIP
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wow if you did this up to this point you really should have watched him pitch a game this year! Hopefully this was just another one of those theads that was made and you realized you came out looking clueless and stopped!Comment -
Carlos Silva #52 SP
2010 STATSERA W-LSOWHIP 2010 FANTASY STATS% OWNWK +/-AVG DRAFT30.1%+15.2%260.0
................3.52 6-0 31 1.21 2010Comment -
the point of the thread I think is that.... there are a handful of pitchers out there that have started out way way way way beyond their career stat indications. and we plan to take advantage of the inevitable regression to the mean... focusing on specific pitchers that have horrible periphery stats but outstanding "public" non essential stats....
eveyone square jumps on their bandwagon because they say...oh wow this guy is 6-0 with a low ERA he MUST be good.....
meanwhile, they don't realize that he's due for a major turn for the worseComment -
The point of the thread was to fade Silva since day one...and if a 6-0 record does not indicate this idea was a fail and now would require at least 7 more losses than wins just to probably break even...how much would you be down right now on this?Comment -
Arch...the thread might of made sense if it started now...with Silva being 6-0...but obviously not at the beginning of the season....now the goal for anyone doing this would have to be to try to recover their losses...which may be possible...who knows...Comment
