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  • allabout the $$$
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 04-17-10
    • 9843

    #113436
    ok y was the game fixed? is it not easier to try for a 55 yard field goal for the win or a 45 yard pass for a td once they got inside the 30 they had to go for the td if they would have had time and onside kicked then a 15 yard out baronas could make that with a better % than a hail mary sorry you guys lost but it wasnt fixed
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    • hawley
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-10-10
      • 14270

      #113437
      Originally posted by forloveofthegame
      you guys are COMPLETELY missing the point. the only chance titans had of winning was kicking with 40 seconds left. announcers even said. either way you need an onside.
      i heard it boss, maybe fisher wanted to play it differently

      either way people are pissed off right now and these fixed BS arguments wont get us anywhere

      it was a terrible beat for all
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      • forloveofthegame
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 06-01-09
        • 5288

        #113438
        Originally posted by lakerboy

        okay guy. You guys are all right. I hope you can convince your books to give you the money back after you make it clear the game was rigged. Im sure they will agree. Im done in this thread. Same old story- its rigged when you lose but a good call when you win.

        i already stated i sat this game out due to the large public favorite!!!


        no fg with 35 seconds makes absolutely no sense if you plan on winning!!!
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        • southpaw74
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-21-09
          • 7104

          #113439
          Originally posted by maxcraft
          I feel sorry for all the squares that lose today.. You'll get it next time.. BOL!
          Not everyone bet or lost in here...it's just you they are pissed at. I happen to be lucky enough to have had the moneyline only but you are a disgrace to gambling and sportsmanship and should be banned
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          • fly fisher
            SBR MVP
            • 01-25-10
            • 2587

            #113440
            Originally posted by lakerboy
            Im wade awake guy. What pisses me off is that whenever a big play loses in this thread the game is always rigged. I feel for Paco cause he is a friend and i was rooting for that guy to miss the extra point but unfortunately he didnt. People always say its rigged when they lose in this thread but when they win it was a great call. Show some maturity people. A loss is a loss. We have all been there.
            you are right LB a loss is a loss, but i have coached high school football for over 10 yrs now, and in no way is there ever a scenario where you would do what fisher did. It makes no sense. once the got to the 35 yard line he should have tried 3 times for the end zone, if they didn't get it then kick the field goal. 3 incomplete passes would have used about 25 seconds, kick a field goal and be down by 6 pts. Then you gamble and try the onside kick, if you get it you have a chance to win, if you don't then you lose, but you gave your team a chance to win. What fisher did eliminated the chance to win, it only gave him a chance to score, but not to win. I am not saying, the game was fixed, but what fisher did should get him fired cuz he quit on trying to win and only made the game closer so it didn't look so bad. I would rather lose by 6 with a chance to win than to go all the way down the field to know the best you can do is lose by 2. what a shitty coach and a terrible message to send to your team. he should be fired.
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            • Lakers714
              SBR MVP
              • 06-17-09
              • 4671

              #113441
              Originally posted by wilfor1
              Dude. With all due respects comin in here and sayin "u love it" and "time to move on" ain't exactly what paco or the majority of people in here wanna hear right now. Show a little class...
              Dood, I believe LB was trying to be sarcastic about everybody saying jeff Fischer was trying to cover the game. He wasn't trying to rub anything in guys. LB is always repectful and is friends with Paco. Let's just let this go guys and move on to tomorrows winners.
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              • latinrus
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-01-10
                • 11188

                #113442
                Originally posted by lakerboy


                Im wade awake guy. What pisses me off is that whenever a big play loses in this thread the game is always rigged. I feel for Paco cause he is a friend and i was rooting for that guy to miss the extra point but unfortunately he didnt. People always say its rigged when they lose in this thread but when they win it was a great call. Show some maturity people. A loss is a loss. We have all been there.

                I've seen guys here saying when we win that we were on the right side of the FIX!

                Today we were on the wrong side of the FIX!

                There are few argument to say it was not a fix! If they wanted to score and make something to try to win they needed the FG and time to try to get the ball back!
                They went ate the clock and went for a useless TD?

                If that's not fixed I don't know what u will call FIX!
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                • jpot34
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-24-07
                  • 1391

                  #113443
                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                  Titans couldnt win anyways. They didnt have enough time and getting the onside kick back was remote.



                  okay guy. you guys are all right. i hope you can convince your books to give you the money back after you make it clear the game was rigged. im sure they will agree. im done in this thread. same old story- its rigged when you lose but a good call when you win.

                  Bye, Bye!
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                  • JMobile
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-21-10
                    • 19074

                    #113444
                    Sorry Paco bro!
                    I wanna puke and cry at the same time too.
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                    • bballs84
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-11-09
                      • 5461

                      #113445
                      PAC keep ya head up.. You will bounce back no doubt
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                      • 8ArIvd5
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-24-10
                        • 3175

                        #113446
                        Originally posted by hawley
                        but do you expect the titans to just take a knee on the last play


                        this is still professional sports, these guys would rather lose by 2 than 9
                        If they're playing for a win they kick a field goal and an onside. Fisher quit but didn't want to kneel. It wasn't fixed, and Fisher wasn't trying to cover, he just quit.
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                        • forloveofthegame
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-01-09
                          • 5288

                          #113447
                          Originally posted by latinrus
                          I've seen guys here saying when we win that we were on the right side of the FIX!

                          Today we were on the wrong side of the FIX!

                          There are few argument to say it was not a fix! If they wanted to score and make something to try to win they needed the FG and time to try to get the ball back!
                          They went ate the clock and went for a useless TD?

                          If that's not fixed I don't know what u will call FIX!
                          Couldnt have said it any bettor
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                          • Lakers714
                            SBR MVP
                            • 06-17-09
                            • 4671

                            #113448
                            I hear what you're saying fly but they had the ball inside the 10 with 25 seconds left. At that point, what do u do? U have to go for the TD at that point cuz they have a much better shot from there compared to recovering an onside kick and going for a TD.
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                            • jalein
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-19-08
                              • 1005

                              #113449
                              Originally posted by forloveofthegame
                              you guys are COMPLETELY missing the point. the only chance titans had of winning was kicking with 40 seconds left. announcers even said. either way you need an onside.
                              EXACTLY! Fischer was NOT playing to win. He burnt all of his time to cover the spread with NO CHANCE of winning the game. Goodell cant be happy about this. This is a man's game and it aint horseshoes so close does NOT cut it. You play to win. Nothing else matters.

                              There are many posting on this subject. Some I respect, others not. Respectfully, it would be decent if we all respected Paco's thread and did not try to prove why the game was or was not fixed. This was a massive loss for the man that has made us all some money. Would be nice if we showed some class in the wake of this big loss.
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                              • maxcraft
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 11-15-10
                                • 680

                                #113450
                                The writing is on the wall that when Adam made the last FG, Colts defense will just let them score a TD so that they will have no time left for an onside kick..

                                Sorry for the lose paco.. I know you will get it next time bro..

                                I'm still riding high with that Touchdown.. Never in doubt that the Titans will score a TD there.. Called it before it happened
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                                • Mikail
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-19-09
                                  • 21689

                                  #113451
                                  Paco I'm feeling your pain right now. I've heard of some bad beats but haven't seen nothing like that before. Hang in there bro. Just a bump in the road. Truly sorry about the big loss.
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                                  • slimpickins
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-12-10
                                    • 891

                                    #113452
                                    Lb isn't there an NBA game on that u should be following?

                                    Sorry Paco, u will get it back
                                    back to the grind
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                                    • sneakerhead
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 07-14-10
                                      • 7727

                                      #113453
                                      Tough loss bro, had a lot of money on it as well.
                                      Still cant believe books got it down to the last point.
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                                      • southpaw74
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-21-09
                                        • 7104

                                        #113454
                                        If they don't score on the last play then nobody is talking "fixed" mumbo jumbo. it was thrown in traffic and he wasnt wide open. What does that tell you...it's just bad luck
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                                        • Lakers714
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-17-09
                                          • 4671

                                          #113455
                                          Like I said, poor clock managent but when u have the ball inside the 10 with 25 seconds left. U have to get your TD there and go for the much easier FG on the onside kick. Again, poor clock management but he had to so what he did.
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                                          • latinrus
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-01-10
                                            • 11188

                                            #113456
                                            Originally posted by hawley


                                            but do you expect the titans to just take a knee on the last play


                                            this is still professional sports, these guys would rather lose by 2 than 9
                                            I think no one was expecting the knee! When we saw the Titans moving to the end zone we knew what could happen!

                                            But if that's pro sports and u want to win go for the FG and try to recover the ball on the punt!
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                                            • shakinakin
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 07-18-10
                                              • 124

                                              #113457
                                              All I ever hear in the NBA forums from these guys is that the NBA is rigged. I dont care whether it is or isnt but maybe that only applies to the games they bet? If people want something to blame then I dont know why people who haven't even bet the game need to come in here and argue with them.
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                                              • Mikail
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-19-09
                                                • 21689

                                                #113458
                                                Originally posted by Lakers714
                                                I hear what you're saying fly but they had the ball inside the 10 with 25 seconds left. At that point, what do u do? U have to go for the TD at that point cuz they have a much better shot from there compared to recovering an onside kick and going for a TD.
                                                If they intended on trying to win the game, at that point the clock was a huge factor so when they where inside the 30 yard line the best strategy would be to immediately kick the FG make it 30-24 and then onside kick with enough time on the clock to get a few throws to the endzone if they recovered.
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                                                • yaiknow
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 11-11-10
                                                  • 105

                                                  #113459
                                                  sick to my stomach 15x goneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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                                                  • SoV
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-21-10
                                                    • 6420

                                                    #113460
                                                    Originally posted by shakinakin
                                                    All I ever hear in the NBA forums from these guys is that the NBA is rigged. I dont care whether it is or isnt but maybe that only applies to the games they bet? If people want something to blame then I dont know why people who haven't even bet the game need to come in here and argue with them.
                                                    Is right.
                                                    FML

                                                    http://forum.sbrforum.com/soccer-han...scussions.html
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                                                    • Lakers714
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-17-09
                                                      • 4671

                                                      #113461
                                                      Originally posted by Mikail
                                                      If they intended on trying to win the game, at that point the clock was a huge factor so when they where inside the 30 yard line the best strategy would be to immediately kick the FG make it 30-24 and then onside kick with enough time on the clock to get a few throws to the endzone if they recovered.
                                                      That's still a risk though. It would be a 45-47 yard FG. I believe the very next play got it inside the 10. At that point they had to get their TD there.
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                                                      • 8ArIvd5
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 04-24-10
                                                        • 3175

                                                        #113462
                                                        Originally posted by Lakers714
                                                        Like I said, poor clock managent but when u have the ball inside the 10 with 25 seconds left. U have to get your TD there and go for the much easier FG on the onside kick. Again, poor clock management but he had to so what he did.
                                                        You kick from the 30, if you get the onside you have the ball at the 45 at best. How many players have made a 72 yard field goal? How many players have caught a 72 yard hail mary? Just saying...
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                                                        • Holdin Aces
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-18-10
                                                          • 2551

                                                          #113463
                                                          Originally posted by allabout the $$$
                                                          ok y was the game fixed? is it not easier to try for a 55 yard field goal for the win or a 45 yard pass for a td once they got inside the 30 they had to go for the td if they would have had time and onside kicked then a 15 yard out baronas could make that with a better % than a hail mary sorry you guys lost but it wasnt fixed
                                                          I agree, the game was lost when Blair got in the way of the touchdown. I lost over 2k on this game and I am a fifty, hundred guy but I loved this game and I had already bet 15x before I even seen Paco was on it. I thought this was a spot to go large and I was right for 59 minutes of the game, but that's why they play 60. It's a bad beat and that's it, I've had them before and I will have them again. Paco hate to see you lose that much cash but you will get it back soon I am sure. Good luck this weekend fellas.
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                                                          • CarmeLO15
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 01-16-10
                                                            • 260

                                                            #113464
                                                            Very frustrating to lose the bet by only half point. Well i'm sure your posted here enough plays to cover this loss.. so it's okay paco. The right play between colts or titans was colts. You took colts. You made the right call. Don't worry bro you can't win them all.
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                                                            • sportfan
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-22-09
                                                              • 10111

                                                              #113465
                                                              That garbage Td killed my teaser too , I had colts +4.5/under 52 , f\*\*k
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                                                              • 1017BrickSquad
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 11-22-10
                                                                • 703

                                                                #113466
                                                                as mad as we all are crying will not win our money back...i can reassure you though Paco will be back and better than ever one loss is not gonna keep him down
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                                                                • fly fisher
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-25-10
                                                                  • 2587

                                                                  #113467
                                                                  Originally posted by Lakers714
                                                                  Like I said, poor clock managent but when u have the ball inside the 10 with 25 seconds left. U have to get your TD there and go for the much easier FG on the onside kick. Again, poor clock management but he had to so what he did.

                                                                  Agreed but when you are on the 35 yard line you take 3 shots at the end zone and conserve clock, you get the TD, then onside or you get 3 incompletes, then FG and onside, eitehr way you have a chance to win. But to systematically move the ball down the field and use up clock that is poor coaching and poor clock management, and he should be fired. He talks about Youngs immaturity, he showed immaturity the way he finished that game. Yea, I might have buried myself and I am pissed, but more pissed that I lost because Fisher coached horribly in the last 3 minutes.
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                                                                  • maxcraft
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 11-15-10
                                                                    • 680

                                                                    #113468
                                                                    I don't think paco lose 63 units on that beautiful backdoor cover by the titans... I think he didn't place his bet because paco is not a square.. everyone knows that... he is as sharp as the sharps in vegas.. he knows vegas will fukk all the squares today and placed his bet on the Titans +3.. Well played paco.. so don't feel sorry for him, he also made a lot of money just like me..
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                                                                    • slimpickins
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 08-12-10
                                                                      • 891

                                                                      #113469
                                                                      Honestly biggest play in the last few minutes was the colts running back running out of bounds on 2nd down
                                                                      he lost 3 yards on the play but cost 40 seconds of clock that would have run off
                                                                      huge rookie mistake
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                                                                      • Mikail
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 07-19-09
                                                                        • 21689

                                                                        #113470
                                                                        On to tomorrow guys.
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