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  • dynamitappletini
    Restricted User
    • 03-27-10
    • 917

    #3431
    Many early games...
    A bet on Brewers @ -220... Brewers upset me often in the past... let's see how they do
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    • balls2wall
      SBR MVP
      • 12-20-09
      • 2642

      #3432
      FAV System 2nd Half


      14-0

      A: 7
      B: 6
      C: 1
      D: 0
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      • balls2wall
        SBR MVP
        • 12-20-09
        • 2642

        #3433
        Sunday FAV System Play



        A Bet: Mil -1rl (-152)
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        • df1000
          SBR High Roller
          • 05-06-10
          • 123

          #3434
          can toronto do to tampa what baltimore did to boston and texas. im betting no on that today.
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          • BigJ
            SBR Sharp
            • 11-14-09
            • 369

            #3435
            I have a question on the FAV system.....

            If you lose game A, who do you bet on for game B?
            The same team? or whatever team has the highest ML?
            I don't see chasing the same team here because they could be playing some other team or home/away...
            Makes more sense to me to chase whoever is the highest ML the next day.

            Let me know if I'm wrong....Thanks.
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            • peterpan19
              Restricted User
              • 11-02-08
              • 3377

              #3436
              whatever team has the highest ML, pinny opening lines
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              • dynamitappletini
                Restricted User
                • 03-27-10
                • 917

                #3437
                Originally posted by peterpan19
                whatever team has the highest ML, pinny opening lines
                yep this.
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                • dynamitappletini
                  Restricted User
                  • 03-27-10
                  • 917

                  #3438
                  I have A bet LAA (Santana - O'Sullivan) ML -200.... -1RL -151
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                  • df1000
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 05-06-10
                    • 123

                    #3439
                    tampa cost me a bundle, so its time to back to the drawing board and start again.
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                    • balls2wall
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-20-09
                      • 2642

                      #3440
                      FAV System 2nd Half


                      15-0

                      A: 8
                      B: 6
                      C: 1
                      D: 0
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                      • balls2wall
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-20-09
                        • 2642

                        #3441
                        Monday FAV System Play


                        A Bet: LAA -1rl (-143)
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                        • balls2wall
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-20-09
                          • 2642

                          #3442
                          Originally posted by df1000
                          tampa cost me a bundle, so its time to back to the drawing board and start again.



                          good luck df



                          every time I think I have something going I hit a hurdle



                          keep plugging away
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                          • balls2wall
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-20-09
                            • 2642

                            #3443
                            Originally posted by dynamitappletini
                            I have A bet LAA (Santana - O'Sullivan) ML -200.... -1RL -151


                            i appreciate you getting the early posts up dyna



                            with work like has been lately I can't get them in early



                            if you can try to get my back whenever there is an early play it would be greatly appreciated. I was worried I may have missed it today since I just now had time to look at the schedule and lines.



                            thanks

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                            • bigwilliestyle
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 03-24-10
                              • 296

                              #3444
                              would one of you mind answering a couple questions? have there been any losses using the fav system? and when you say opening lines at pinnacle, do you literally wait for them to come out with their lines or is there a 3rd party who tracks all that stuff?

                              thanks a million guys...
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                              • balls2wall
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-20-09
                                • 2642

                                #3445
                                Originally posted by bigwilliestyle
                                would one of you mind answering a couple questions? have there been any losses using the fav system? and when you say opening lines at pinnacle, do you literally wait for them to come out with their lines or is there a 3rd party who tracks all that stuff?

                                thanks a million guys...



                                It depends on how you look at it. The fav system "should" be perfect right now. However, a play was posted right before the all star break that technically shouldn't have been the play, but everyone liked it and no one saw the next 3 games losing with the same team. There was an opening fav, but texas had a pitching change right after the opening lines and they jumped way above the opening line fav so the play was made on texas. Tex lost and was the fav the rest of the way to the all star break and they folded and mailed it in. The way the system is written by the book it should be undefeated.



                                The official plays are from the pinny lines. You should know who it is at other books if they have the lines posted sooner if there is a big gap between 1 and 2. The pinny lines don't have to be out if you know who the play is.



                                the system is very risky so tread with caution if you play them


                                I have personally been cherry picking the plays
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                                • dynamitappletini
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 03-27-10
                                  • 917

                                  #3446
                                  Originally posted by balls2wall
                                  i appreciate you getting the early posts up dyna

                                  with work like has been lately I can't get them in early

                                  if you can try to get my back whenever there is an early play it would be greatly appreciated. I was worried I may have missed it today since I just now had time to look at the schedule and lines.

                                  thanks

                                  sure no problem
                                  I live in Europe so I get to see the lines early and when I post now I will always add the starting pitchers.
                                  I'll just write what I see when you didn't already but leave the official part to you. Just thought I'd help you a bit since you're doing it all alone and I'm loving the system!

                                  Originally posted by bigwilliestyle
                                  would one of you mind answering a couple questions? have there been any losses using the fav system? and when you say opening lines at pinnacle, do you literally wait for them to come out with their lines or is there a 3rd party who tracks all that stuff?

                                  thanks a million guys...
                                  I think there has been a C bet losses (can't remember right because I didn't play that far) Stopped the tex - o's series after B bet because there have been warnings here on the thread. Another good thing about this system, you're not left alone. You got skilled people to give you advises, but afterall you'll have to decide yourself if a C bet is worth the risk because it gets expensive

                                  about the opening lines: just check SBRodds the "opener" column... if these are not the pinny opening lines you can modify it at "customize SBR odds" in top left corner I think!

                                  Have fun and be careful
                                  Last edited by dynamitappletini; 08-09-10, 06:09 PM.
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                                  • df1000
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 05-06-10
                                    • 123

                                    #3447
                                    i wish someone could come up with a fav system that was foolproof. oh well until then.
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                                    • Betting Guru
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-24-09
                                      • 648

                                      #3448
                                      The Rev is back!! Heck-yeah! It's just great to have the Original Thread Creator back in the game!
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                                      • JVP3122
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-02-09
                                        • 1048

                                        #3449
                                        Originally posted by df1000
                                        i wish someone could come up with a fav system that was foolproof. oh well until then.
                                        I think it's been demonstrated that if you can afford to wager up to an E or F bet then it seems to reduce the chances of a loss significantly. At the same time, the amount you need to start with to be able to afford up to an E or F bet would make it seemingly worthless in terms of profit. It would also take balls of steel to go on an F bet having lost on five previous.

                                        On a note to the system, I personally think nothing was done wrong in the series before the All-Star break. The line on one of the games was before the Rangers traded for Cliff Lee and at the time they weren't the favorite. Then, Cliff Lee was acquired from the Mariners and scheduled to pitch the same day. Pinny actually closed the line on the Rangers/Orioles game that day and re-opened it. When it re-opened it was the highest line out of all of them. Thus, I still maintain that the Rangers were the proper play that day.
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                                        • G's pks
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-01-09
                                          • 22251

                                          #3450
                                          Like the John Morrison system does... you can always make excuses when a system suffers a devastating loss...here the Texas series wiped out a full half season on winning and put this system down 40 units...(just before the all star break).


                                          There is no way to prevent a loss once in a while...but there is a way to prevent losing so much...

                                          Money management...if my system does not work for you... Set a cap on the amount you play every three games...

                                          With the highest favorite doubling and doubling is playing with fire...after the second game there should not be continued doubling that is where all the trouble is at...your "C" bets...

                                          The problem with the system is not picking winners..you guys get plenty of those it is your money management when a game goes beyond a "B"...
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                                          • peterpan19
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 11-02-08
                                            • 3377

                                            #3451
                                            maybe reduce the amount to win
                                            A game 1 unit
                                            B game .5 unit
                                            C game bet enough so that you only loose 1 unit
                                            D game bet enough so that you only loose 3 units
                                            ...

                                            Maybe even make C bet a plus/minus bet...

                                            Lots of time you will hit A, B or C bet
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                                            • G's pks
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-01-09
                                              • 22251

                                              #3452
                                              Originally posted by peterpan19
                                              maybe reduce the amount to win
                                              A game 1 unit
                                              B game .5 unit
                                              C game bet enough so that you only loose 1 unit
                                              D game bet enough so that you only loose 3 units
                                              ...

                                              Maybe even make C bet a plus/minus bet...

                                              Lots of time you will hit A, B or C bet

                                              your B has to be higher than your A...


                                              A format like I use of A, B, A, would be the simpliest way to describe it...sure you show losses once in a while...but to win at this you need discipline patience and to be able to think long term... Anyone coming on these boards mentioning the words...I have to win today, or all in...will never get it...not saying you by the way...just mentioning why we have so many frustrated losers around the forum...the get rich quick kids who do not ever get it...

                                              Another easy format which I also use is A, B, B.
                                              A game 1
                                              B game 2 (double)
                                              B game 3 same as b...just recovery

                                              Or
                                              A game 1
                                              B game 2 (double)
                                              A game 3 more conversative recovery only A game losses accept B losses recover later..

                                              Very simple guys incorporate it next year...we are here to help each other...
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                                              • peterpan19
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 11-02-08
                                                • 3377

                                                #3453
                                                G
                                                what I meant with .5 unit...was the profit of the chase... meaning .5 profit plus win back what you lost on your A game...

                                                A to win 1 Unit
                                                B win back A plus .5 unit
                                                C win back A and B =break even
                                                D just win back some money, maybe enough that the overall chase has you only down 3 units or so...

                                                And very much depends on how long the chase is that you would like to do ? I would think that worst case...you should max loose 75% of your roll on a chase...meaning in the above example...losses from A, B, C and D should max equal 75% of your roll...

                                                Now with that system we dont know the juice... here we should calc with an avg...maybe -175?...

                                                ideas are welcome...
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                                                • G's pks
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                  • 22251

                                                  #3454
                                                  Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                  G
                                                  what I meant with .5 unit...was the profit of the chase... meaning .5 profit plus win back what you lost on your A game...

                                                  A to win 1 Unit
                                                  B win back A plus .5 unit
                                                  C win back A and B =break even
                                                  D just win back some money, maybe enough that the overall chase has you only down 3 units or so...

                                                  And very much depends on how long the chase is that you would like to do ? I would think that worst case...you should max loose 75% of your roll on a chase...meaning in the above example...losses from A, B, C and D should max equal 75% of your roll...

                                                  Now with that system we dont know the juice... here we should calc with an avg...maybe -175?...

                                                  ideas are welcome...

                                                  No you should never be risking 75% on a chase! If your average bet is 2 to 5%...that is how your money management should be treated...max 15% total...minimum whatever you want...but on average 6%...

                                                  5% X 3 for 3 games..15%
                                                  or 2% X 3... 6%

                                                  You divide up starting with smallest play first...double at most...than return to original "A" bet...do not let a chase wreck you... Do you know how much two chases losses would cost you risking 75% each? More than you have in the account...
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                                                  • peterpan19
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-02-08
                                                    • 3377

                                                    #3455
                                                    G
                                                    I know that 75% is too much if you want to play conservative... but 75% is agressive and considering that you max have 1 loss per year, but that depends on the system... if I know that a system has more than 1 loss on avg...

                                                    It all depends on what system you play and how much risk you would like...

                                                    I even could have said 100%, but I wanted to leave something in the bank for rebuilding...

                                                    And yes I would never risk 75% on a chase... max. a usually do depending on the system is 20%...
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                                                    • bigwilliestyle
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 03-24-10
                                                      • 296

                                                      #3456
                                                      A way to limit uncertainty is to bet "To Risk." That way, although profit will certainly vary, you can better plan for a loss or two.
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                                                      • JVP3122
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 05-02-09
                                                        • 1048

                                                        #3457
                                                        Originally posted by bigwilliestyle
                                                        A way to limit uncertainty is to bet "To Risk." That way, although profit will certainly vary, you can better plan for a loss or two.
                                                        I feel like that's more of a defensive system of wagering. It almost seems to me like that's betting to not lose instead of betting to win.
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                                                        • balls2wall
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-20-09
                                                          • 2642

                                                          #3458
                                                          FAV System 2nd Half


                                                          16-0

                                                          A: 9
                                                          B: 6
                                                          C: 1
                                                          D: 0
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                                                          • jackmyhoggoff
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-20-10
                                                            • 840

                                                            #3459
                                                            ANY PLAYS TONIGHT and THANK YOU!!!!
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                                                            • balls2wall
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-20-09
                                                              • 2642

                                                              #3460
                                                              Originally posted by jackmyhoggoff
                                                              ANY PLAYS TONIGHT and THANK YOU!!!!


                                                              yeah, sorry hog


                                                              LOL


                                                              I meant to post it right after I updated the record, but got sidetracked
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                                                              • balls2wall
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-20-09
                                                                • 2642

                                                                #3461
                                                                looks like the angels again today



                                                                Tuesday FAV System Play


                                                                A Bet: LAA -1rl (-182)
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                                                                • BigJ
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 11-14-09
                                                                  • 369

                                                                  #3462
                                                                  Well put G. Like ur way of thinking...



                                                                  Originally posted by G's pks
                                                                  your B has to be higher than your A...


                                                                  A format like I use of A, B, A, would be the simpliest way to describe it...sure you show losses once in a while...but to win at this you need discipline patience and to be able to think long term... Anyone coming on these boards mentioning the words...I have to win today, or all in...will never get it...not saying you by the way...just mentioning why we have so many frustrated losers around the forum...the get rich quick kids who do not ever get it...

                                                                  Another easy format which I also use is A, B, B.
                                                                  A game 1
                                                                  B game 2 (double)
                                                                  B game 3 same as b...just recovery

                                                                  Or
                                                                  A game 1
                                                                  B game 2 (double)
                                                                  A game 3 more conversative recovery only A game losses accept B losses recover later..

                                                                  Very simple guys incorporate it next year...we are here to help each other...
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                                                                  • bigwilliestyle
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                                    • 296

                                                                    #3463
                                                                    Originally posted by JVP3122
                                                                    I feel like that's more of a defensive system of wagering. It almost seems to me like that's betting to not lose instead of betting to win.
                                                                    That's fair. But considering the aggressive nature of a chase system, being defensive doesn't seem like the worst idea. But it's really all how you look at it.
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                                                                    • df1000
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 05-06-10
                                                                      • 123

                                                                      #3464
                                                                      i like toronto to bounce back today. aslo the yankees.
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                                                                      • Betting Guru
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 11-24-09
                                                                        • 648

                                                                        #3465
                                                                        Any plays tonight from the Rev Thread?
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