Who here thinks the Giants have a chance to win the whole F'in thing?

nitty48 · 02-08-10, 11:36 AM

they have a chance to win the west and then with a rotation like that in the playoffs they could go far

NYMNYG10 · 02-08-10, 03:04 PM

88 wins, tops 90, possibly wild card but no further, get a reliable power bat and no doubt you got the pitching to go all the way, but when your gonna play teams like the phillies and yanks to win it, theyll get some runs and you wont be able to win those games

whatsgood5 · 02-08-10, 03:21 PM

As others have said, they need offense. I do think with their pitching, they may be able to run, but it all depends on how their offense fairs this year.

whatsgood5 · 02-08-10, 03:21 PM

The NL West is also a pretty wide-open division so that should help their chances pretty good.

warriorfan707 · 02-08-10, 04:46 PM

If Aubrey Huff and Freddy Sanchez can regain their old form this is a beastly team

xyzky · 02-08-10, 06:09 PM

If the Giants can find a way to score a few more runs, then, they are going to be a hard out...

rob11234 · 02-10-10, 07:11 PM

The Giants don't have much of a rotation after their one and two starters. I'm doubtful they can even get past the Dodgers to win the division. Granted, if they do get past the Dodgers and they get a good post season schedule, they can go very far with only two starters. But I'm still not crazy about their chances against the Cardinals and/or Phillies. And they don't have a shot in hell against a Yankee lineup that now has Granderson and a rotation that now has Vasquez. Obviously, there's some Yankee bias here, though.

warriorfan707 · 02-10-10, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by rob11234

The Giants don't have much of a rotation after their one and two starters. I'm doubtful they can even get past the Dodgers to win the division. Granted, if they do get past the Dodgers and they get a good post season schedule, they can go very far with only two starters. But I'm still not crazy about their chances against the Cardinals and/or Phillies. And they don't have a shot in hell against a Yankee lineup that now has Granderson and a rotation that now has Vasquez. Obviously, there's some Yankee bias here, though.

Not much of a rotation past Linecum and Cain??

I can tell you're not much of an MLB fan.

Watch what Zito, Sanchez, and Bumgarner do this year.

GiveMeaBJ · 02-10-10, 11:18 PM

Buddy, I hate to break it to you but you are a delusional Giants fan. Listen here is the bottom line. It is easy to say on paper that the rotatio 1-5 is going to be rock solid. But, your hoping Zito, Sanchez, and Bumgarner all pan out. This won't happen, and if it does Cain will turn to shit. All three won't meet their expectations, that is just how it works. Plus injuries. Your lineup is so terrible already that what if an injury hits. What if Sandoval dislocates his shoulder? If anyone on your team misses time (other then Renteria) you will have your thin line up turned into probably the worst line up in the MLB. Plus, you have off days for guys. Depth is everything in the MLB. If your not the Yankees and signing superstars like it's your job you damn well better have depth. Trust me, I am a Met fan but I was rooting for the Giants all last year. They are just a fun team. Who doesn't love Lincecum and Pablo? Don't talk yourself into them too much or you will be extremley let down. They are lucky to make the playoffs let alone win it all. Expect a lot of 1-0, 2-1, 2-0, losses to come your way this year.

warriorfan707 · 02-10-10, 11:40 PM

If Renteria misses any time, Uribe will step in. Im actually hoping that happens because Renteria can't hit for beans anymore.

Sanchez, Bumgarner, and Zito will be solid. They won't miss any time, and Cain is definitely not gonna turn into shit, quite the opposite actually.

This is a versatile team that is going to open a lot of eyes this season. The lineup is not as bad as everyone thinks. The lefty starters are young and very capable. Great bullpen, great home field advantage.

TheBet · 02-11-10, 01:08 AM

The Giants main concern is their hitting, their season will live or die by the bat. We know what to expect out of their pitching staff, top 3 pitching in the NL. If the bats show up this year, count on them to be contenders. If the bats are down, expect another mid 80 win season.

THEGREAT30 · 02-11-10, 03:11 AM

No way they win the whole thing

nitty48 · 02-11-10, 08:38 AM

the giants have the pitching to win

KingJIM · 02-11-10, 10:22 PM

Playoffs-chance Win it all-guess you could say every team has a chance now but I wouldn't put any money on the giants to win it all.

smitch124 · 02-16-10, 06:40 AM

Love the Wellemeyer signing, the Giants were in dire need of starting pitching depth.

warriorfan707 · 02-16-10, 08:15 AM

Wellemeyer will be used in long relief and possibly for occasional spot starts. We have 5 great starters akready.

smitch124 · 02-16-10, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by warriorfan707

Wellemeyer will be used in long relief and possibly for occasional spot starts. We have 5 great starters akready.

Yes Warrior, but you don't go through a whole season without injuries or someone being demoted for performance. Bumgarner is a rookie and they are never a lock. So pitching depth is definitely what they need, and this pickup was essential.

The Giants had about as injury free a season as one could possibly hope for and still got a major boost from Penny late in the season.

warriorfan707 · 02-16-10, 11:36 AM

are u forgetting what happened to the unit?

smitch124 · 02-16-10, 11:44 AM

I'm not forgetting about the unit (his injury was no surprise at his age) the Giants had a nearly injury free season in their pitching staff especially for pitchers under 50. It would be folly to hope that all 5 starters this year would pitch the whole season this year without any bumps in the road, it simply doesn't happen. They will need Wellemeyer this year for sure, maybe even someone beyond him, great pickup.

lunchbawks · 02-16-10, 11:48 AM

Giants look relevant again, oh how sweet is it!

smitch124 · 02-17-10, 01:26 PM

Travis Ishikawa has 2 torn ligaments in his big toe, suffered on a flight of stairs

warriorfan707 · 02-17-10, 03:12 PM

Travesty Ishikawa? Oh no what will we ever do without him.

Good.

Put Panda at first, and derosa at 3rd. This Giants team is so versatile its nuts

smitch124 · 02-17-10, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by smitch124

Travis Ishikawa has 2 torn ligaments in his big toe, suffered on a flight of stairs

He will be examined to see if he needs surgery, if he does he will be out for up to 3 months

rerics · 02-22-10, 06:41 PM

Once again, the Giants a relying on a team of aging veterans whom they are hoping will somehow find a way to repeat a "career year" they might have had 2, 3 or more years ago (see: Rowand, Renteria, Huff, Derosa, Uribe, Molina, etc. etc). If they can, then the Giants may beat the 88 wins they over-achieved last year. But that's too many "ifs" for my comfort. The starting pitching is going to have to win a bunch of tight low-scoring games yet again if they are to make the playoffs.

On the bright side, should they get to the post season, the Lincecum-Cain one-two-punch should be advantageous in a short series with breaks every 2 games or so.

andywend · 02-22-10, 07:08 PM

Warriorfan, your name explains a lot.

It sure seems like you're from the BayArea with a huge fetish for the hometown teams.

While there's certainly nothing wrong with that, your loyalty is clearly clouding your better judgement.

Its always a mistake to gamble on emotion.

nbt3428 · 02-22-10, 09:54 PM

Giants are legit contenders if they make it to post season play. That staff can dominate during the playoffs and they should be able to manufacture just enough runs.

xxred_hottxx · 02-23-10, 01:39 AM

The Mets are winning it all...no way in hell the Giants are..most people have no even heard of them

warriorfan707 · 02-23-10, 02:15 AM

Originally posted by xxred_hottxx

The Mets are winning it all...no way in hell the Giants are..most people have no even heard of them

stealthyburrito · 02-23-10, 09:45 PM

solid team, still tho the west is too competitive

warriorfan707 · 02-24-10, 12:24 AM

Jonathan Sanchez and Barry Zito will have good years= ONE OF THE BEASTLIEST PITCHING STAFFS MLB HAS EVER SEEN

warriorfan707 · 02-24-10, 12:25 AM

Thats what it really comes down to, is Giants pitching. You can't touch us. If you ground out to 3rd you have done a tremendous job against an SF starter.

sLim901 · 02-24-10, 12:29 AM

I think any team that is as deep as the giants are legitimate contendors. They obviously need some things to happen for them to win it all. I don't think anyone is a fan of their offense, but if Lincecum stays healthy, Cain continues to progress, Sanchez continue his 2nd half success, this rotation could carry them easily to the playoffs. Bumgarner didn't look like a rookie in his Sept callup and should be able to give them 120-150 solid innings while Zito will continue to prove that Sabean doesn't deserve a GM job in the majors.

chisox19 · 02-24-10, 08:49 PM

If they can get there with the 3 man rotation of Linecum Cain and Zito they could very well run through to the series

sLim901 · 02-25-10, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by chisox19

If they can get there with the 3 man rotation of Linecum Cain and Zito they could very well run through to the series

Zito?

For those of you who don't know who Madison Bumgarner is yet, watch out, this kid could easily be the #2 guy in this rotation by season's end. Only problem is they will probably limit his innings some what so you might not get to see him for the entire season. Zito is the worst pitcher in this rotation. Lincecum, Cain and Bumgarner will give all these NL west offenses a run for their money.

robert_wrath · 02-25-10, 06:17 AM

First and foremost, they need to beat the Dodgers. L.A. has always been a major issue to San Fran especially with Joe T. as general manager. Then of course the Phillies. These guys just keep comin up shit to take on the best of the best.
The lineup on paper looks fabulous, however time and team chemistry can determine how they shall overcome the rest of the National League. I'd give the Giants 2-3 more years of recuperating until considering them as serious contenders for the N.L. pennant race.