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  • Razz
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-22-05
    • 5632

    #1
    Indians -115
    I think this is a spot where the betting public favors Blanton because of his overall numbers. While his home numbers (1.80 ERA/0.82 WHIP/.181 BAA) are impeccable, he's been below average away from home (4.50 ERA/1.33 WHIP/.279 BAA). In his lone career start at Jacobs Field, he gave up 10 hits, 3 BB, and 6 ER in only 5 innings. I know it's a limited sample size, but his ERA, WHIP, and BAA are higher at Jacobs Field than any other stadium. He probably won't be that bad tomorrow, but with the Indians 20-9 record at home against RHSP and with them scoring 6.34 rpg in those games, they'll probably fare pretty well against an uncomfortable Blanton. Oakland isn't hitting RHP so well, scoring only 3.9 rpg, and while Byrd isn't as good as Blanton, the Indians' large lineup and bullpen advantages make this number very playable.
  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #2
    I have to agree with this selction Razz.

    Even though Byrd has been shaky as of late. I still find much value with the Tribe and that great home record of theres.
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    • Razz
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 08-22-05
      • 5632

      #3
      Glad to hear it Dan. Do you (or anyone else) have any lean on the Jays/Twins or CWS/TB games?
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      • moses millsap
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-25-05
        • 8289

        #4
        The early start time should be a disadvantage for the A's.

        No thoughts on those games, was just telling Dan that 5 games I'm not even considering playing, you've picked 3 of the 5!
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        • Razz
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-22-05
          • 5632

          #5
          Are you playing the Cards OWNED?
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          • bigboydan
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-10-05
            • 55420

            #6
            Both those two other games you were eying Razz are tough ones for me as well. I'll just pass on them both to be honest with you.

            The game that seems to jump out a bit to me is the Colorado.
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            • moses millsap
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-05
              • 8289

              #7
              Originally posted by Razz
              Are you playing the Cards OWNED?
              I am tempted by them for sure at that price.
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              • bigboydan
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-10-05
                • 55420

                #8
                I want to see the lineup cards for that game before considering the Cardinals.
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                • rjt721
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-06-07
                  • 7929

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Razz
                  Glad to hear it Dan. Do you (or anyone else) have any lean on the Jays/Twins or CWS/TB games?
                  Slight lean to the Twins as a small dog, although I'll probably pass. I've never been a fan of Carlos Silva (in fact, I can't stand him), but I don't think Toronto should be favored on the road against Minny given the uncertainty with Burnett and his shoulder.

                  No opinion on the ChiSox/Rays.

                  Not much to like on the card tomorrow. I do agree with your Tribe play. I'm also liking the Rockies.
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                  • Razz
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-22-05
                    • 5632

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bigboydan
                    Both those two other games you were eying Razz are tough ones for me as well. I'll just pass on them both to be honest with you.

                    The game that seems to jump out a bit to me is the Colorado.
                    Yeah, Oswalt doesn't seem right, and Cook has been good on the road. Houston's career numbers against Cook worry me quite a bit. For anyone interested:

                    Berkman 6-11
                    Biggio 3-9
                    Everett 4-11
                    Lamb 3-4
                    Loretta 11-23
                    Pence 2-3
                    Yeah, I was leaning on the Twins and Devil Rays. I may still play TB, but the Twins need Morneau, and supposedly he isn't coming back until Friday.
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                    • moses millsap
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-25-05
                      • 8289

                      #11
                      I actually liked the Astros tomorrow, but was hoping for a -160 type price with a +140 type RL. Not going to happen in all likelihood.
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                      • bigboydan
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 55420

                        #12
                        If I was forced to play that TB/Sox game I too would have to go with the D'rays. I'm just not going to force it though.
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                        • bigboydan
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 55420

                          #13
                          What about that Pitt/Fish game tomorrow?

                          Not really sure what to think about this game at all, and what makes matters worse is the fact that it's an noon EST start.
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                          • rjt721
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-06-07
                            • 7929

                            #14
                            Any thoughts on the O's? I was thinking at +165 they might be worth a shot and hope that the good Cabrera shows up. Then again, it's probably just as likely that he walks 6 and Wang throws a gem to stop NYY's losing streak.
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                            • Razz
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-22-05
                              • 5632

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bigboydan
                              What about that Pitt/Fish game tomorrow?

                              Not really sure what to think about this game at all, and what makes matters worse is the fact that it's an noon EST start.
                              The Marlins hit lefties pretty good, everything Duke throws is getting hit hard ... I mean, where this guy's stuff has gone I don't know, but I can't recall a pitcher having BAA like Duke in his first three years - from .253 to .302 to .354. Even last time out, against LAA, he goes 5.1 IP, only gives up one run, but he still gave up 9 hits and 2 walks. That's a WHIP of over 2! And it's his best start since April! I'm not betting on that.
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                              • Razz
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-22-05
                                • 5632

                                #16
                                Originally posted by rjt721
                                Any thoughts on the O's? I was thinking at +165 they might be worth a shot and hope that the good Cabrera shows up. Then again, it's probably just as likely that he walks 6 and Wang throws a gem to stop NYY's losing streak.
                                Take them tomorrow +180. People betting on the Cy Young runner up and against the Yankees getting swept should give you a much better line.
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                                • JBC77
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-23-07
                                  • 3816

                                  #17
                                  Byrd scares me a little. Teams are hitting almost .340 against him at home. Good luck today guys.
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                                  • LT Profits
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-27-06
                                    • 90963

                                    #18
                                    I am on Oakland +108 myself guys. Blanton has five straight Quality Starts, with a 1.14 ERA and 0.82 WHIP in those games. Sure his YTD road numbers aren't great, but two of those last five starts were on the road, including eight shutout innings at Shea last week. Meanwhile Byrd has benefitted from great run support all year, and he may not get that today.
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                                    • onlooker
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 36572

                                      #19
                                      Your not alone LT. I am on the Athletics today myself. Hate to see those guys on the other side, but I will take my chances.

                                      Good luck LT.
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                                      • onlooker
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 36572

                                        #20
                                        I am now off the Athletics guys. The line swung the wrong way and took what value I had away.

                                        I hope you Tribe backers waited to this morning to place your bet.

                                        Good luck guys.
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                                        • LT Profits
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-27-06
                                          • 90963

                                          #21
                                          As I asked in another thread Looker, why didn't you bet A's earlier? I placed my bet at +108 at 5 Dimes after seeing they had dropped to +100 at CRIS and Greek, so I suspected the current line movement would happen and wanted in early.
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                                          • Razz
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-22-05
                                            • 5632

                                            #22
                                            I'm now totally unloaded on the Indians in this game at -107 (for three-fourths of my bet, still have that ugly -115 for one unit). Only played one other game this big this year. Line should be in the mid 130s, the public is pounding the other side, everyone swept away by Blanton's numbers versus the NL, now he faces the best lineup in baseball on the road and gets absolutely rocked. Last two road starts in the AL he gave up 12 runs in 11.1 IP (against two lousy offenses, no one is thinking about that, but I am. TBD I guess, but Cleveland is an incredibly strong play here IMO.
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                                            • bigboydan
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 55420

                                              #23
                                              I'm not unloading on it by no means at all Razz... but I do have them today -110

                                              Heres something I find quite interesting. Today's Spiro-leaner is indeed Cleveland.


                                              * 06/27/2007 12:19PM: -105 / -115 Opener
                                              * 06/27/2007 6:33PM: Even / -120
                                              * 06/28/2007 10:05AM: -105 / -115
                                              * 06/28/2007 10:33AM: -111 / -109
                                              * 06/28/2007 10:34AM: -106 / -114
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:07AM: -109 / -111
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:07AM: -108 / -112
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:35AM: -110 / -110
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:37AM: -108 / -112
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:37AM: Even / -120
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:40AM: +102 / -122
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:49AM: +105 / -125
                                              * 06/28/2007 11:54AM: +106 / -126
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                                              • Razz
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-22-05
                                                • 5632

                                                #24
                                                Indians TT Over 4.5 -115 for a unit as well, should have just bet everything on that on the off chance that the A's score 7 runs or something and make this game close.
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                                                • bigboydan
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 55420

                                                  #25
                                                  I like the low in this early start today Razz. However, I just can't play it though.
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                                                  • Razz
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 08-22-05
                                                    • 5632

                                                    #26
                                                    Haha, they get a run on two infield singles. Nice. Well, I'm heading out, guess I'll check in later.
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                                                    • ShamsWoof10
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-15-06
                                                      • 4827

                                                      #27
                                                      Here Is Another One Ac
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                                                      • MJFtheGenius
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-31-07
                                                        • 7257

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Razz
                                                        I think this is a spot where the betting public favors Blanton because of his overall numbers. While his home numbers (1.80 ERA/0.82 WHIP/.181 BAA) are impeccable, he's been below average away from home (4.50 ERA/1.33 WHIP/.279 BAA). In his lone career start at Jacobs Field, he gave up 10 hits, 3 BB, and 6 ER in only 5 innings. I know it's a limited sample size, but his ERA, WHIP, and BAA are higher at Jacobs Field than any other stadium. He probably won't be that bad tomorrow, but with the Indians 20-9 record at home against RHSP and with them scoring 6.34 rpg in those games, they'll probably fare pretty well against an uncomfortable Blanton. Oakland isn't hitting RHP so well, scoring only 3.9 rpg, and while Byrd isn't as good as Blanton, the Indians' large lineup and bullpen advantages make this number very playable.
                                                        I cant believe I listnened to this garbage I orignaly liked Oakland
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                                                        • JBC77
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-23-07
                                                          • 3816

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                                          I cant believe I listnened to this garbage I orignaly liked Oakland
                                                          Come on, give the guy a break, he gave an opinion and his argument.
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                                                          • ShamsWoof10
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-15-06
                                                            • 4827

                                                            #30
                                                            I'm telling you guys it's how it works... How many times have you sat there watching pre-game and not really liking the game but some former NFL player makes a good point on what he thinks and you buy right into it and lose... Afterwards telling yourself why did I take that I didn't like it in the first place... It's how it works and the media knows this... They can sway you into anything from taking a team to going to war...
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                                                            • Willie Bee
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 02-14-06
                                                              • 15726

                                                              #31
                                                              The media or any individual can only sway you one way or another if you let them. People who are at ease and accustomed to thinking on their own will just accept it as more information, good or bad, and make their own decisions.
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                                                              • ShamsWoof10
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-15-06
                                                                • 4827

                                                                #32
                                                                easier said... not saying I follow them....you should know I don't by my personality...but you should also know we rely on the media for everything as far as information.... We take what they said as gold and this refers to all information not just sports so people seem like they have become accustome to taking what they say as gold and it trickles over into sports too.... and don't say people don't because I see it on this forum all the time....
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                                                                • Willie Bee
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-14-06
                                                                  • 15726

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                                                  and don't say people don't because I see it on this forum all the time....
                                                                  Sorry, can't oblige you there. What I see at SBR is that some of the people accept everything they're told as concrete most of the time. But all of the people -- yourself excluded, of course -- all of the time? Nope, I don't see that.
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                                                                  • ShamsWoof10
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-15-06
                                                                    • 4827

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I said all the time... I didn't say all the people but certianly MOST....
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                                                                    • MJFtheGenius
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 05-31-07
                                                                      • 7257

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I knew the tribe would come through
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