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  • hotcross
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-04-17
    • 7934

    #246
    there's one pick that stands out I want to know your logic about: Philadelphia +163 and RL +1.5

    Not focused on the team here, but the bet types. Because I've played these type of combos before with an underdog. But I don't believe it doing it anymore. Maybe one of us can convince each other.

    Assuming the logic is you like them to win, but if they screw up like they did last night (quite horribly with errors late in game, blowing the lead - but I repeat it doesn't matter the team we are talking about), at least they should cover the +1.5 @ -137 odds.

    The problem is the disparity in the odds.
    Firstly, I don't like to play the underdog +1.5 odds in general.
    Then, I think it makes it worse to play the moneyline paired with the +1.5.
    Because if they do win, 2x units at +163 ML = 3.26 units won on 2 units risked moneyline
    Vs.
    only 2.63 units won on 2.37 units risked with the ML/RL pairing

    My point is when they win, which is what you are picking them to do, it costs you profit by selecting the +1.5 dog runline.

    You don't want them to lose by exactly 1 anyway, right? You wouldn't play the moneyline if you thought they lose by 1.

    I could go on about this, but in short, I'd rather play the alternate -1.5 runline in general on the dog. Much better value. Or just play the moneyline dog straight up.
    (tonight's game odds -1.5 at +275 on this particular game for the Phillies)

    The +1.5 dog line is like taking insurance.

    I'm not trying to bash you. Asking you to tell me how you think differently on this. GL
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #247
      Cross I actually like the +1.5 when I can get it for cheaper than what the fav is on the ml. For me it incredibly game dependent , typically forgo the ml in favor of the dog rl is the juice is low and I believe it will be a close low scoring game. There other factors and circumstances for when I prefer the dog rl to ml. I don't really have the time right now but I'd be happy to discuss what I find to be the merits and when to play it with you one these days.
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      • hotcross
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-04-17
        • 7934

        #248
        yeah, I'd agree (if I followed what you just said)....play the +1.5 runline BY ITSELF if you think it's the right play on a certain game, using that logic you outlined

        Don't like pairing it with the dog moneyline. Giving up price value. If taking the moneyline dog, gotta just go with it, and not add the insurance bet which is how I see the +1.5 runline
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #249
          Originally posted by hotcross
          yeah, I'd agree (if I followed what you just said)....play the +1.5 runline BY ITSELF if you think it's the right play on a certain game, using that logic you outlined

          Don't like pairing it with the dog moneyline. Giving up price value. If taking the moneyline dog, gotta just go with it, and not add the insurance bet which is how I see the +1.5 runline
          Ah. Understand that. Although I know guys who like playing that +1 line and I've noticed you generally get a better price splitting the ml and rl than you do playing the +1, guess it a convenience tax or something, although I'm with ya I never play like that. Other than often times I'll play the dog ml straight but play the rl in parlays.
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          • hotcross
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-04-17
            • 7934

            #250
            Phillies won 6-1 so in this case, exactly proves my point. ML was diluted with the insurance bet +1.5 added-on. Better yet, odds were +275 alternate runline -1.5....guess it depends how strongly you like the dog on a given night. They don't always win, but gotta make the most outta it.

            Regardless, good call selecting the Phillies.
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            • StackinGreen
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-09-10
              • 12140

              #251
              Wed 5.30

              Atlanta -145
              Rockies/Giants over 10.5
              Rangers/Mariners over 7
              Phillies +185
              Twins Royals under 9
              A's -136
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              • StackinGreen
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-09-10
                • 12140

                #252
                Originally posted by StackinGreen
                Wed 5.30

                Atlanta -145
                Rockies/Giants over 10.5
                Rangers/Mariners over 7
                Phillies +185
                Twins Royals under 9
                A's -136
                Padres -130
                Rockies -161
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                • StackinGreen
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-09-10
                  • 12140

                  #253
                  Not bad, because of top plays. Let's try

                  Thursday 5.31

                  Cubs -160 (late post)
                  Nationals +110
                  Red Sox Astros over 8.5
                  NY Yankees -175
                  Indians -120
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