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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #1
    MLB - Sunday, 5/29/16
    4 MLB Plays Sunday

    Red Sox / Blue Jays UNDER 9 -115 (Heritage)
    Reds / Brewers OVER 9 -110 (Heritage)
    Giants / Rockies UNDER 10.5 -110 (Heritage)
    Braves -123 (Heritage)


    YTD: 145-150-6, +2.88
  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #2
    60%ers:

    Washington 66% (-194)
    Milwaukee 60% (-150)
    White Sox 62% (-163)
    Cubs 71% (-245)
    Oakland 61% (-156)
    Seattle 61% (-156)
    San Francisco 65% (-186)
    Dodgers 73% (-270)
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    • dirtycash66
      SBR MVP
      • 04-13-12
      • 2958

      #3
      Originally posted by LT Profits
      4 MLB Plays Sunday

      Red Sox / Blue Jays UNDER 9 -115 (Heritage)
      Reds / Brewers OVER 9 -110 (Heritage)
      Giants / Rockies UNDER 10.5 -110 (Heritage)
      Braves -123 (Heritage)


      YTD: 145-150-6, +2.88
      Nooo don't go back into the red!!!
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        Originally posted by dirtycash66
        Nooo don't go back into the red!!!
        I'll try not to.
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        • gpet1984
          SBR Hustler
          • 10-03-15
          • 52

          #5
          LT I guess our question about why the Mets line dropped so much with no reason was shown last night. Someone took a good guess he was getting ejected or new what was going to happen (maybe the ump )
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Braves I never take

            Miami a play on my sheet

            Red Sox's under.....that knuckle baller scares me does he really have much left?
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            • LT Profits
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-27-06
              • 90963

              #7
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Braves I never take
              One of the rare times when there is a pitching mismatch in their favor. Teheran is legit and could start for any team, Koehler is a mess walking too many people.
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              • BrewCrew1
                SBR Rookie
                • 04-24-11
                • 27

                #8
                What's your thoughts on Baltimore? Seems like the price is ligit with Tillman on the mound.
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                • 44 Mag
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 10-14-13
                  • 34490

                  #9
                  How does Milwaukee make it to the 60% club ?
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                  • funnyb25
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 07-09-09
                    • 39663

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 44 Mag
                    How does Milwaukee make it to the 60% club ?
                    His model loves Nelson...and the Reds have won 1 game in the past 3 weeks....and that was yesterday..lol
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 44 Mag
                      How does Milwaukee make it to the 60% club ?
                      Line is just about same as model number, so no need to worry about it. But yeah, Nelson grades out a lot better than Finnegan.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BrewCrew1
                        What's your thoughts on Baltimore? Seems like the price is ligit with Tillman on the mound.
                        Baltimore 56% (-127)

                        Tillman is not that good though, I would love to fade him as a road favorite except that Clevinger grades out worse.
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                        • RavensFan2k3
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-18-12
                          • 17378

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Baltimore 56% (-127)

                          Tillman is not that good though, I would love to fade him as a road favorite except that Clevinger grades out worse.
                          Excuse me?
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                          • CappinTerp
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-26-09
                            • 9650

                            #14
                            I think Tillman is doing fine 6-1 and a 1.77 ERA last 3.May even bet Balt. only thing is that the Tribe are hot winning 9 of last 13.
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                            • juicername
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 10-14-15
                              • 6906

                              #15
                              Originally posted by CappinTerp
                              I think Tillman is doing fine 6-1 and a 1.77 ERA last 3.May even bet Balt. only thing is that the Tribe are hot winning 9 of last 13.
                              He has a xFIP of 4.07 and is overachieving big time right now. That being said, I like to back pitchers when they're hot and I'm on Baltimore today.
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                              • Redscot
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-16-11
                                • 2571

                                #16
                                Originally posted by CappinTerp
                                I think Tillman is doing fine 6-1 and a 1.77 ERA last 3.May even bet Balt. only thing is that the Tribe are hot winning 9 of last 13.
                                He's definitely been better but not to the degree his era suggests. Has an 80% strand rate which isn't sustainable, his hr/fb rate is down by half his career numbers even though he is giving up more fb (fly balls) than last year. one area he has improved a lot in his the % of soft contact being made against him thus far 24% (#9 amongst qualified starters), thanks to an improved cutter. As an add his swinging strike rate is up 3% over last couple of years....
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                                • RavensFan2k3
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-18-12
                                  • 17378

                                  #17
                                  LT is Eovaldi better than Odorizzi?
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                                  • LT Profits
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-27-06
                                    • 90963

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by CappinTerp
                                    I think Tillman is doing fine 6-1 and a 1.77 ERA last 3.May even bet Balt. only thing is that the Tribe are hot winning 9 of last 13.
                                    Exactly why I want to fade him because he is not that good and should eventually regress to his 4.07 xFIP, which is basically what he is. It is just that Clevinger blows too so today is not the spot to fade. But if Tillman faces just an everage pitcher in the near future, he is very fade-able.
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                                    • LT Profits
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-27-06
                                      • 90963

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                      Excuse me?
                                      I meant I would love to fade Tillman because he is not as good as his record.
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                        LT is Eovaldi better than Odorizzi?
                                        Yes. But I only get Yankees 54% (-117).
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                                        • juicername
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-14-15
                                          • 6906

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Redscot
                                          He's definitely been better but not to the degree his era suggests. Has an 80% strand rate which isn't sustainable, his hr/fb rate is down by half his career numbers even though he is giving up more fb (fly balls) than last year. one area he has improved a lot in his the % of soft contact being made against him thus far 24% (#9 amongst qualified starters), thanks to an improved cutter. As an add his swinging strike rate is up 3% over last couple of years....
                                          Wow, that's some great insight, nice.
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                                          • RavensFan2k3
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 08-18-12
                                            • 17378

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                            I meant I would love to fade Tillman because he is not as good as his record.
                                            I know what you meant lol I was just saying don't bad talk my O's! Lol
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                                            • RavensFan2k3
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-18-12
                                              • 17378

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                                              Yes. But I only get Yankees 54% (-117).
                                              Really? I guess I should have asked before I bet Tampa
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                                              • Redscot
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-16-11
                                                • 2571

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by juicername
                                                Wow, that's some great insight, nice.
                                                This is some of the stuff that goes into the xfip and siera numbers, just thought it good to highlight them so people don't think those numbers are just some voodoo.
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                                                • CappinTerp
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                  • 9650

                                                  #25
                                                  I know this one will get a lot of banter.....When I cap my games, and I have been doing this for a long time and this does not make me a good capper. But I do not look at any saber-metrics when I cap..no xfip,WAR, siera or what ever. From past experiences ( for me ) too much info. can be a bad thing.
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                                                  • Redscot
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-16-11
                                                    • 2571

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by CappinTerp
                                                    I know this one will get a lot of banter.....When I cap my games, and I have been doing this for a long time and this does not make me a good capper. But I do not look at any saber-metrics when I cap..no xfip,WAR,or what ever. From past experiences ( for me ) too much info. can be a bad thing.
                                                    I evaluate by eye more than numbers Cap. I hear you on the "too many chef's spoil the soup " . But on the other hand to ignore the advanced numbers completely puts you at a disadvantage imo. MLB is big business, Books are big business, if they are incorporating them it is hard to discount that they have value......how much is definitely the key.
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                                                    • RavensFan2k3
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-18-12
                                                      • 17378

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CappinTerp
                                                      I know this one will get a lot of banter.....When I cap my games, and I have been doing this for a long time and this does not make me a good capper. But I do not look at any saber-metrics when I cap..no xfip,WAR, siera or what ever. From past experiences ( for me ) too much info. can be a bad thing.
                                                      I agree with this. I turn to those fine details when evaluating a pitcher who I feel is being overvalued due to recent success or under valued due to recent struggles
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                                                      • Nateboogy
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 03-13-14
                                                        • 167

                                                        #28
                                                        What does model say about Astros today? They are playing good and Fister has been performing well.
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                                                        • gpet1984
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 10-03-15
                                                          • 52

                                                          #29
                                                          Doug Fister is terrible. Rule of thumb should be to fade him every game
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                                                          • PorkChop
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 09-18-08
                                                            • 8193

                                                            #30
                                                            Anyone like Indians/Orioles U 9 (-120)
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                                                            • gpet1984
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 10-03-15
                                                              • 52

                                                              #31
                                                              SD at +105 is very tempting

                                                              I actually took o9 +105 in bal/cle (hope im on right end )
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                                                              • RavensFan2k3
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-18-12
                                                                • 17378

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by gpet1984
                                                                Doug Fister is terrible. Rule of thumb should be to fade him every game
                                                                if Doug Fister is terrible as you put it, who else is terrible in your opinion
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                                                                • gpet1984
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 10-03-15
                                                                  • 52

                                                                  #33
                                                                  When I say terrible I meant he gets too much respect. What numbers make him good. Hes a Tillman type guy to me. There are way worse pitchers in the league of course. Maybe I made a bit of a rash statement.
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                                                                  • Redscot
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-16-11
                                                                    • 2571

                                                                    #34
                                                                    The Cubs Phillies o/u has been all over the f-ing place. Curious where you peg that one LT?
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                                                                    • CappinTerp
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                                      • 9650

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Redscot
                                                                      I evaluate by eye more than numbers Cap. I hear you on the "too many chef's spoil the soup " . But on the other hand to ignore the advanced numbers completely puts you at a disadvantage imo. MLB is big business, Books are big business, if they are incorporating them it is hard to discount that they have value......how much is definitely the key.
                                                                      I will tell you,from what I read from you, I'am glad you are open minded.Yea ,well aware what a big biz sports betting is.Think about this: for what ever reason,no one will be able to bet any NFL games next season..there would be Billions on $ lost,not only for the NFL,but also sports bars,restaurants,mom& pop places ect. Anyway back to the point...for myself I just can not imagine how one can calibrate all this info into a reason as to why bet a game. I don't think this puts me at any disadvantage,because I do put a lot of stock into were the books open their price on any given game, and into the technical analyst of price movements,realizing that there is " no free lunch in Vegas"......BOL
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